America is about to collapse it seems.

I try to spread the word. But everytime I mention something of this sort everyone looks at me like I am crazy. how to spread a word when people stop listening when you talk ? People dont want to hear it, if everything seems fine people just dont care. I mean the two world towers came down for christ sake if that dosnt wake up people what will.

Its not soo much that, governments of the world have always failed and are slowly destroying the world and deteriorating the value of live. You have to choose the right people to talk to about this sort of thing -if you go around just talking to anyone than you look like your part of a cult or something.

Actually i think this would be best if we discused this here,
how to get this out with people listening and both eyes open. But also by doing this we leave ourselfs open to a prison sentance.

has there ever been a generation that thought the end of times wasn't going to happen in their generation. it is an exclusively human emption.


hell, my grandpa thought for sure that it was here when the jews got their own lands.
go figure.



im trying to be openminded about this, afterall i want time to study for the final exam, but my sceptical side needs physical proof.....kinda like the UFO/alien thing.

Originally posted by DirtyBoots
has there ever been a generation that thought the end of times wasn't going to happen in their generation. it is an exclusively human emption.


hell, my grandpa thought for sure that it was here when the jews got their own lands.
go figure.



im trying to be openminded about this, afterall i want time to study for the final exam, but my sceptical side needs physical proof.....kinda like the UFO/alien thing.

go back and read...were not talking about the end of times.

This chart puts it in perspective:

www.nationmaster.com...

Thats pretty bad when [] Australian gov can mess up the economy to 2nd worst in the world...

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[edit on 4/4/2006 by Umbrax]

I was surprised to see Canada at #8. We have been making inroads in the last 7-8 years with Surpluses. We actually have a good rating considering the turmoil Trudeau and subsequent governments put us in. Let's hope Harper smartens up and realizes his campaign promises are not affordable and we actually like have the safety that surpluses give you. A little money under the matress for a rainy day.

The US, you guys are SOL.

Considering the US is running the global fiat casino. What do you all presume happens when the US goes out of business?

This usually instigates a phase of anarchy when a nation's economic infrastructure implodes. In the case of the US going through an economic collapse, it will lead to a global economic implosion. So for now we keep playing in the Fractional Reserve Banking casino and hope no one panics and starts screaming this is a big ripoff!

Life is just a fantasy, can you live this fantasy life ~ Aldo Nova



[edit on 5-4-2006 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by Dae
Spot on! All countries need to stand up and do this, no more bankers!

Thanks for the vote, Dae.

I agree with you that the bankers have created schemes that are intended to harm citizens over the long haul, but if cornered, they will legally raise their hands and say,"We have obeyed all laws of commerce. We are not the enemy." In fact, none of us has to use a bank if we are willing to lower our level of living. Banks are necessary for jet skis, but not so much for eating and staying alive.


stompk: Don't incite people to violence or revolution, my friend. I think this is the exact thing which the elites want. They'll be happy to liquidate the US if we get too uppity. They've thought this through, to the last nickel.

How do we fix the problem? Well, have you seen the TV shows where fatties try to motivate themselves to lose weight? Why is it so hard for them? It's like pulling teeth isn't it? Why is that? Is it because twinkies taste so GOOD or is it because they are emotionally addicted to food?

Emotional addicition to a lifestyle might also prevent one from reducing that consumptive lifestyle, I think. So the first thing is to encourage your friends and neighbors to spend less and save more. Maybe even mock them for their stupid, gas guzzling toys which Americans maintain at the cost of third-world bodies. If you could convince your neighbors to live a 50% less consumptive lifestyle, you'd take a step in the right direction.

The second thing that would have to happen is a general work/tax strike of some kind, but it CANNOT be seen offensive or threatening to the globalists or they will simply lob tear gas at you. It needs to be peaceful and overtly so.

So then, if you gum up the machine, what should your demand be? Well, IMO, if a strike of some kind happens, and the Americans get the ear of the banks and the politicians, they should ask for two things:

1: Re-issue the Kennedy 90% silver half dollar, and a similar silver quarter also. These will be minted at face value, and sent into the money supply.

2: Convert a large percentage of gold in Fort Knox (if it's actually there, which I doubt) to a similar coinage and force a national campaign to encourage Americans to purchase this gold in the form of small, twenty-dollar gold pieces.

...These two items would be a start, and it would allow items of real value to get into the hands of regular Americans. Personally, I think big-war and a a national draft would occur before anything like this could get off the ground because of all the things the banksters loathe, the idea I have suggested above, is the most loathsome.

We need to have real wealth in the hands of Americans. The PTB will aim to prevent this at all costs. NOTE: 3-bedroom houses, for which you hold a mortgage, are not real items of value. Who will live in that house when the hand-to-mouth system of food delivery has collapsed in your neighborhood? Who will want to buy that house when gangs of released felons are not being controlled by police? How much will that house (or jet ski) be worth if the water stops flowing?

Americans need real wealth in both physical and emotional form. They are raised on fakeness. Fake money, fake lives (celebrities), etc. A dose of reality might get something moving.


[edit on 5-4-2006 by smallpeeps]

as far as the original idea that america is on the verge of collapse, thats a wee bit hysterical for me.

weren't things worse in '68 with the race riots ? mid 70's with the gas shortage ? 30's with the depression ?

if you spend all day at ATS and other sites, you're soon ready to jump out a window.

go out side, get some excercise, meet some people

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
as far as the original idea that america is on the verge of collapse, thats a wee bit hysterical for me.

weren't things worse in '68 with the race riots ? mid 70's with the gas shortage ? 30's with the depression ?

if you spend all day at ATS and other sites, you're soon ready to jump out a window.

go out side, get some excercise, meet some people

It is unsustainable. All the mainstream propoganda says how great the US economy is, but it all on borrowed money. Money that your children will be paying back and your children's children.

It is like saying I've got lots of money, but never paying the credit card bills and still buying everything on credit. If you did that, people would say you are reckless, but it's the government that is doing it and the world is likely to dump the dollar before long.

Those that drive recklessly risk crashing.

I've posted this same artilcle in numerous finacial collapse threads not knowing which one is going to take off again.
Here is another nail in the coffin.

A scary article about the ecomonic collpase of the U.S.

"Now, I was never a conspiracy theorist. But, when one investigates money, and finds the economic deck stacked in such a way as to ensure the final collapse of the USD, one realizes that such deck stackings are not accidents by a long shot.

The USD situation is such now, that, the US is dependent upon financiers and central banks outside the US for its life blood - namely new credits."

www.kitco.com...

How many people are out there actually preparing for this? I am. I'm storing Gold, Silver, bullets, Whiskey, Chocolate, canned food.
Remember there will be 1001 excellent reasons to accept the mark of the beast.
Like to recieve a housing allowance, food allowance after the collapse.

Credit seems to be the method to gain control thru debt slavery.

Originally posted by Zod
Our National Debt is 8.3 trillion dollars

While America has the largest debt it has also the largest GDP. America's debt burden (debt as a percentage of GDP) is lower than Germany's.

The Iraqi War is costing us $177 Million a day, so far we have spent $237.7 Billion dollars so far on the war

$237.7 billion is 2% of America's GDP, so America can afford that.


[edit on 31-7-2006 by JimmyCarterIsNotSmarter]