How many here believe Cathy O'brien's Story?

Year's ago a former friend did some kind of satanic trance on me, he was a reader of the satanic bible and believer in Anton Levay and i have seen with my own eyes this garbage done on a bigger scale, so yea i think she's telling the truth.

reply to post by ProudCanadian


Yes I for one am totally convinced. Why should she make up something like this? Many people find it hard to believe but i don't. There are a lot of corrupt politicians in the world who get up to things behind closed doors while showing a different face to the public.

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I've read the material "Trance" and afterwards tried somewhat if not a lot to have Cathy tell me "how many books" she had sold, but she never replied. But I would like to know how many of her first book "Trance", a shortened form of the word, Entrance, with a root from Greek, found in the Greek word, Tetra, meaning "of four"or "four" and probably used in words which denote movement, like Travel, Traverse, Trail, Train, and maybe Extra, she had sold.
Those rich tycoons in Europe, of the family crest "Red Shield" were famous as becoming so wealthy by their ability to move quickly to gain the needed advantage over the competition.
It might make someone wonder if their money might not back the book business with that. That being "Trance-formation of America". Ahh...

I believe there is some truth to what I have read and researched about Cathy O'Brien and her daughter.

Also makes me question about the 1980's case involving the White House w/ Bush Sr. and the Nebraska "Franklin Cover-up", there is a book written by ex. Senator and attorney John DeCamp. Have any of you read about this? Read about Craig Spence and Larry E. King, Jr. (no, not that Larry King, lol)?

And what about that creepy Bohemian (sp?) Grove in Northern CA ? There is a 40+ ft "Molech"-type of owl where our presidents and the other so-called "elite" watch a re-enactment of a Caannite-type of ceremony involving a burning of a fake body in a body bag. Our presidents attend each Summer as a "retreat"? Why would a "Christian" president want to be around such where the owl clearly resembles the Molech god from the Bible. Have you seen those photographs?

Why doesn't CNN or FOX News bring out these stories instead of which country Brad and Angelina are adopting their next new baby or about how I need to recycle more plastic water bottles to save the planet?

Cathy O'brien's story isn't the first to actually blow the lid on this type of info.

There was a "ahem" Porn movie in the 1970's called "Emanuelle around the World" or something like that....that dealt with a journalist blowing the lid off of a powerful sex slave ring operated by politicians.

Of course, it's a French porno from the 70's, so not necessarily the best cited work (lol), but it still is relevant to this post.

The reason I have trouble with this story is spelled out by Professor Mattias Gardell who has pointed out that O'Brien's claims are almost entirely unsupported by any evidence outside her testimony or the similarly unverified testimony of others. (found on her wiki page and debunker page)

The problem I have with that sentence is the "almost" part. Her claims are almost unsupported by evidence. What exactly does that mean. What of her claims are supported and what aren't?

I guess mant believe her stories about project Monarch are partially true, but that therapy meant to awaken lost memories has been influenced and obtained past occurrances that did not happen, such as satanic experiences in relation to "New World Order" and politicans.

However there is a clear history of the CIA and politicians being involved in the occult and/or sexual abuse. The question is how wide spread is it really and does it tie into a larger conspiracy.

FOR AN INCREDIBLE LIST OF VIDEOS look up FATGIRLSRHOT on YouTube.com

In response:

I believe she is completely credible.

She has no reason to lie about her story.

Believe it or not our government is run by a bunch of sickos. To find out more, search for Phil Schneider, Arizona Wilder, and Duncan Ofinioan.
Phil was a geologist and worked for the government under a subcontractor who was hired to construct and under ground facility in Dulce, New Mexico.
Arizona was in the MK Ultra Program and was also severely abused and trained by our black ops government to become a clairvoyant spy. Duncan was recruited at the age of nine years old and was used in the Super Soldier program that trains kids that have Psychic abilities and turns them into elite assassins.

I'll be damned if the whole crew is lyin' because they have no way of makin' this stuff up. Some times the truth IS stranger than fiction!

God Bless and as always, YESHUA (Jesus) MESHIA (Messiah) IS KING! Call out to God and ask for anything in the name of his son if you need help. God is always here for us. Knock and the Door shall be opened!

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Whilst I 100% agree that one should not believe anything you read or hear without more substantial evidence presented in actuality, I disagree with the statement that no-one should believe her (seems a bit too dictatorial for a start) because I've met another survivor of child abduction/government abuse program during my time spent living in squats in london.
I do not want to name names without consent as there is a court case pending, but what i can say is I have seen evidence from the national gallery of alice in wonderland programming from 1970 - with my friend as 'alice' with her clothes painted on.
www.tate.org.uk...
Just comparing faces was proof enough, but matched with her relentless campaign against all forms of child abuse and numerous discussions i've had with her, my mind unfortunately accepted this as plausible and actual.
Also, my friend has a face that reads plainly she was abused.
Anyway, despite not believing in anything, my time spent with this unique individual (and anyone from the london new age traveller scene may well know of whom i speak! Fresh!) has galvanized my concern for all our safety carrying on living parallel to the status quo as it appears.
It is truly horrible to accept in to your reality that these atrocities actually exist and very difficult not to speculate on the lengths some in government could go to given that they are clearly so wrong in the head. The current system of authoritarianism is all about abuse of power until enough decent folk wake up and force all government to become transparent, how/when this could occur i do not know.
It's up to each individual how they receive and treat information but the responsibility of us all to reclaim the earth for each other's sake.
Peace and Interdependence.
TMITH

Originally posted by ProudCanadian
Ok here are some links.

www.trance-formation.com...

ic.net...

ic.net...

Well, that was disappointing. The first link takes you to a page where they are trying to sell their books, and the other 2 links don't work.

I believe Kathy O'brien,she gives too much detail to not believe her. I think she is very brave to come forward, with her story.

Well as I've come to this late, I'll have the last word...Oscam's Razor can be applied here, if the CIA needs "sex slaves" wouldn't it be much easier to pay a hooker?

www.thefarmergeneral.com

Honestly, I believe her 100%. Her story is the only thing I've seen spew out of Washington that made sense. In other words, Hillderbeast forcing herself onto another woman is more believable than airplanes hitting the World Trade Center.

Has anybody any up to date material on this?I'm trying to write an article on Cathy and there are so many tangents and off shoots and names to check out ,it's a maze of info.However ,I'm determined to get there in the end.

i think she is tellnig the truth as the goverment as bieng lying to the american people and keep lying in fear of not bieng struted like when the "plane" crached in the pentagon with a trace of a plane, and fbi confiscating vedio proff off a shop ower wicth had the evidence. they all have the technoligy to heal most desease and no we have been visted other enteties. they goal is to control us.they dont care about us. dats y they want every chiped. they creat war for oil. we have techoligy to stop polution our plant but they wont release it because theyr fat cats.

ask yourself how cathy o'brien has been allowed to speak of the insane things she speaks of. who benefits from this? She speaks at events, where many women who claim to have also been part of MK Ultra then approach her...these women reveal themselves to Cathy and her handler, Mark Phillips, who now have a list of women who were part of MK Ultra. This list goes back to the CIA and they are able to then eliminate these resurfacing memories.
I think the reality of the situation is, however, that this woman is seriously messed up. She was probably abused/molested as a child and instead of identifying the abusers as the mundane people they are, she credits some of the worlds most famous and powerful people as molesting her. it just doesn't add up.

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But then who would of thought that presidents and other high ranking people would go to Bohemian Grove to do mock sacrifices but that seems to untrue too but it's not we all saw it.

Originally posted by governmentsecrets
ask yourself how cathy o'brien has been allowed to speak of the insane things she speaks of. who benefits from this? She speaks at events, where many women who claim to have also been part of MK Ultra then approach her...these women reveal themselves to Cathy and her handler, Mark Phillips, who now have a list of women who were part of MK Ultra. This list goes back to the CIA and they are able to then eliminate these resurfacing memories.
I think the reality of the situation is, however, that this woman is seriously messed up. She was probably abused/molested as a child and instead of identifying the abusers as the mundane people they are, she credits some of the worlds most famous and powerful people as molesting her. it just doesn't add up.

This is the problem.What is her motive?Is it honorouble?I've emailed her and her husband to ask what they are doing now?Are they still campaigning etc?Is it a psyops?Or a cointelpro?Proof is what we need.

reply to post by Optix


I agree with you.
I wrote her an e-mail a while ago because
I have reason to believe I was going through
a similar program since childhood.

I did not know who to reach out to,
so I wrote her. The reply I received felt
like a copy & paste promotion for her book.

As you said, when things like this is shared for
profit, I have to question the validity and more then anything, intent. How could a human not reach out
to a fellow human under those circumstances.