Very Scary Developments - WW3 just days away.

Thats cool - I did not realise it was a huge post they posted. fair enough - I will endeaveour with my little dyslexic mind to figure out the quote business.

First off, you have done a great job summarizing your position and the backround.

Second, I think that you are right on many counts. One of them being that the US media and Government seem to like to keep people in a constant state of fear.

Fear sells.

Fear makes people easy to lead.

I am not dismissing you or your claims when I say this...

Stay away from the internet, newspapers, cable news and the Evening News for a few days.

Go outside. Talk with your friends about everyday stuff.

WW3 is not about to break out.

Not for a while, honest

I believe the only way to prevent a war 'sometime' in the future between the US and Iran is to defuse both sides from what their leaders want, and force both sides to live with the option neither wants.

Basically, you have to use the UN, the process, and stand up against the Iranian nuclear program. That isn't a US solution, not at all, that is the old school EU solution, a solution no one wants to listen to due to a questionable history from Europe regarding the prevention of war in general.

What nobody has asked is, what event could happen that would put a chill over the whole issue?

What if the US was united on a solution, would it matter? I think it would matter a great deal to the two most important players, which btw, are not Iran and the US.

It would matter a great deal to China and Russia, who will stand against a politically weak US, but have never nor would ever stand against a united US population.

If the right and left both protested, as in organized protests and all the things that come with it, the Iranian nuclear program, this problem would be solved in weeks, if not days, and it is unlikely a single shot would be fired.

Instead US politics intentionally divides the people on an issue, which I find the most interesting aspect of it all, since you can't find a single US elected official who believes Iran with a nuclear weapon is an acceptable option.

Why then do they intentionally divide? I think it is because they want the war of civilizations, how else can American thought, whether liberal or conservative, penetrate what globalists see as the wall of Islam? Ideas take hold after great wars, history is filled with examples, but we don't teach history like we used to. Otherwise people would know how Bismark rose to power, why Hitler was popular, what made George Washington a leader, and how Communism and Facism spread after the great conflicts of the last half century, the cold war and WWII respectfully.

When I see all these posts I get the impression there are little sober people living in the United States.

First of all, there's a big risk of war comming up, stop denying it. History and logical thinking made me come to this conclusion. Did you really think that after WWII, no 'big' wars would occur anymore? Well, watch and learn.

Stop blaming the US government, keep in mind the risk for a third World War isn't little and go on with your life.

There's nothing wrong with speculating, that's why we are all here, to discuss.

Fear and more fear. How much money have you all spent on stocking up? Buying all the plastic tape, food, batteries etc. Just after 9:11 US spent millions on gas masks, guns etc. The media keep us in a state of perpetual fear and it serves them well... How many of us live by the news? How much do we rely on it?

Ever since I can remember, 'the end of the world was coming' and the 'day came and went'...so too the Falklands War, 1st Gulf War, Hayleys Comet rave on...rave on. So much fear and hype. AIDS, SARS...now Birdflu. And what do we fearful humans do? Spend money and run around perpetuating the fear, preparing for the worst possible outcome.

Well, I refuse to be swept up into the fear or live my life preparing for doom and gloom.

The majority of humans appear to be spiritually bankrupt???

Originally posted by NJE777
Fear and more fear. How much money have you all spent on stocking up? Buying all the plastic tape, food, batteries etc. Just after 9:11 US spent millions on gas masks, guns etc. The media keep us in a state of perpetual fear and it serves them well... How many of us live by the news? How much do we rely on it?

Ever since I can remember, 'the end of the world was coming' and the 'day came and went'...so too the Falklands War, 1st Gulf War, Hayleys Comet rave on...rave on. So much fear and hype. AIDS, SARS...now Birdflu. And what do we fearful humans do? Spend money and run around perpetuating the fear, preparing for the worst possible outcome.

Well, I refuse to be swept up into the fear or live my life preparing for doom and gloom.

The majority of humans appear to be spiritually bankrupt???

I dont know why you would critizize people stocking up. You dont think nothing terrible will ever happen again. It does not even have to be a terriorist attack it could be an earthquake or flood. Having assets in a time of need is a big plus.

Originally posted by NJE777
Well, I refuse to be swept up into the fear or live my life preparing for doom and gloom.

Many people assume that because a person prepares for something that they are afraid of it. And that is a mistake. It's not necessarily true at all. And it's certainly not true in my case.

I also refuse to live in fear. I live in LOVE, instead. And I also believe in logic and having the sense to be prepared for taking care of myself and my family in this unstable world in which we live.

People prepare for their futures. They put money away for retirement. They save for their children's education. Doesn't mean they're afraid, just sensible.

Ditto.

We prepare so we dont have to fear. I am not afraid. What will come will come. Read some Taoism. Great for controlling fear. It is THE WAY.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by NJE777
Well, I refuse to be swept up into the fear or live my life preparing for doom and gloom.

People prepare for their futures. They put money away for retirement. They save for their children's education. Doesn't mean they're afraid, just sensible.

THANK YOU!!!! Exactly what I was thinking! We live in a volatile world, one that could change drastically tomorrow. Just look at the Internet, for example, in less than five years it has become the standard for getting information, in humanity terms, that's less than a blink of an eye.

I don't know about everyone else, but one of my mantra's is : "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best." And it has always kept me safe. I don't prepare because I am fearful, I prepare because I want to protect those I love and care for (mainly my fiancee), and that means that I not only need to physically prepared with supplies, but I also need to be mentally prepared with information and locations.

Remember, a survival kit is no good if you don't know that you need to use it. Since our government has admitted that in the event of a crisis the American people will pretty much need to fend for themselves (ie. a pandemic, but we could also count on wars or nuclear attacks to do this as well), I've just switched off the TV and have gone looking for news myself, which yes, sure it may make me a little paranoid, but it will also give me a little more warning before whatever happens happens. Which could be the most important thing in the world.

i AM FEELING A CERTAIN rem SONG ENTERING MY MIND. SOMEHOW IT'S CALMING.

Perhaps I didnt make my point clearly... I am not critical of those who prepare as in risk management. That is logical...but to be so fearful... that is my concern. My criticism is with the media. The news is sensation sensation sensation and it sells.

My other point 'spiritually bankrupt'. Arent people more secure with their spiritual beliefs? What happened to faith? I am not fearful of the future. Maybe it is the end but what is the point of worrying about it? If and when it happens, deal with it then. I believe that I am in the right place at the right time and that I have all I need, so don't freak out with things like this. If # hits the fan then I will die or be protected and provided for. I am looking at this obviously very differently to how other people view it.

Originally posted by NJE777
Arent people more secure with their spiritual beliefs?
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I am looking at this obviously very differently to how other people view it.

I am quite secure with my beliefs. And although we may be looking at this whole thing somewhat differently, I'm not sure it's all that differently.

From my post on page 5:

The most important thing is that neither one of us is afraid to die. If something happens that one or both of us die, it's ok. We're doing this because we want to. Not because we feel the need to live through anything. We're curious. We want to see what happens. We want to be around for the show. And we want to be fairly comfortable while watching it.

I'm not worried.

Originally posted by NJE777
My other point 'spiritually bankrupt'. Arent people more secure with their spiritual beliefs? What happened to faith? I am not fearful of the future. Maybe it is the end but what is the point of worrying about it? If and when it happens, deal with it then. I believe that I am in the right place at the right time and that I have all I need, so don't freak out with things like this. If # hits the fan then I will die or be protected and provided for. I am looking at this obviously very differently to how other people view it.

Personally I don't think there is any lack of faith in people anymore, it's just that we all have been bombarded by differeing ideas on the afterlife.

As for me, the reason I worry is because if I am going to bite the dust, I want to do it after seeing my fiancee one last time (I've been saying this many places on many different threads, and it's still my main priority should the carp hit the fan). Since she lives a hundred miles from me, that means that I need to survive a few days in order to get there (I don't own a car). That is why I prepare and have a plan at the ready. In less than ten minutes, I can be packed and ready to go on my hiking trip

Of course, if were going to get nuked....I'll probably call her, and if that doesn't work....just pull out my Bible and read it until the end.

A plan makes us comfortable. In a world where our lives are structured by everyone else's (a student's life is made up of the times for classes, meetings, etc. etc.), having some plan of action ready just makes sense...

I don'tknow if I got that last point through enough, but I will try to explain it better if anyone has any questions on it later.

oh I really liked your 'carp hits the fan'...!!!

it is the appropriate substitute!! Carp is good for nothing...well its good crab bait and I hear you can soak it in clean water for two days and eat it and it doesnt taste as bad. Perhaps that info might be useful when and if food is scarce and carp and cockroaches are in abundance? LOL just got to find out what can be done so we can eat cockroaches... ew!! Maybe soak them in sugar and dry them out like prunes lmao...sorry but your word choice really tickled me

Benevolent, thanks for the p 5 excerpt... missed that.

Well, its the 30th March here, big eclipse yesterday? or is it today? Either way, off to work..if the world as we know it still exists later today, I will of course log back in. If not, see you all in the afterlife

Have a great day!

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm off to stock up on bottled water, tuna fish and candles ( so I can boil my tuna in the light!)..

I think the bird flu is a most cynical type of biological warfare started by the illuminati to cut down food supply, causing poultry to skyrocket, and selling a bunch of antidote, both of which I'm sure the illuminati own stock in.

For me, living through several large earthquakes here in So CA as well as being in the one in '89 in San Fran (I was stuck in Fremont for several days), I've learned to be prepared.

Lately, and for no apparent reason, I've been edgy...dreams are pestering me as well; dreams about leaving, "escaping", and "regrouping". Those dreams, frankly, are both unusual and bothersome...and what led me here (and elsewhere, but this is a fun site, so I joined...). I am NOT claiming prescience, but I'm also rather interested in why they're occuring, as they have come in clusters and are themed (for lack of a better way to describe them).

Because I live in an earthquake prone area, and because I've learned from history (most recently, Katrina), I do not expect any government to help me in times of emergency. My personal home is stocked with at least 2 months' worth of food, feminine accoutrements, medications (I have two chronic illnesses...), and cat food (wet, dry, and litter) as well as carrying cases for all of them. I have water purification items, and lighting/cooking items. I am also weapon prepared, with lots of ammunition should the need arise. During the riots in '94, a dear friend from El Salvador taught me the use of plastic zip baggies in the water closet, and so I feel I am about as ready as I can be.

The difficulty arises with my elderly father. He is not going to be leaving, no matter what happens. He's one of those wonderful, stubborn ol' guys that made it through the BCI theatre in WW2 without getting captured...a good example of recent stubbornness is he broke his hip, and refused to see a Dr. for nearly a week; and then chose to heal without surgery (he's absolutely fine now, walking 3 times a week 4 miles each time...at 85, that's no small feat). But I know he won't leave. So I've been prepping him, too...although he doesn't know it. I've been storing stuff in his garage in storage containers as if it were detritus from my home that I haven't room for, but it's full of all the things he'll need to survive. He just is not aware of it.

I suppose this very long post is simply to remind those who have relatives in the neighborhood or close by, to remember that they will need help, as well, and to help them before the time comes so that they can have it easier during whatever that might come comes.

As for the spiritual aspect, I am firm in my faith, and happy in my life. I live in love, as someone else said, not fear. Being prepared does not equal paranoia; I've lived too long with my eyes open to think that there will be anything I can do if my time has come. But if it hasn't, it's an affront to my spirituality to face it with less than complete confidence that I am going to make it through; and to not prepare is simply silly. Even the pharoahs prepared for the starving time, according to dreams and their interpretations...

Regards to one and all-
Aimless Searcher

Never mind.

Another line added. (no one liners)

[edit on 3/30/2006 by No1nptkulr]

So...
What's happened to the original poster?

Did he mean WW3 is 'weeks' or 'months' or 'years' away?

looking at it from a military perspective they would be fools NOT to attack (Iran) during the eclipse.

oops...

[edit on 30-3-2006 by ThatsJustWeird]

Days... hundreds of days! Wish it would hurry up!!!