Stargates are real

References:

Osiris and Isis
en.wikipedia.org...

Enmerkar and the Lord of Arrata
doormann.tripod.com...

Inana and Enki
www.piney.com...

The Shabaka Stone
nefertiti.iwebland.com...

[edit on 5-1-2008 by undo]

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undo,

This is a great and important thread. The history lesson alone is worth the time to read it. I'm way back on page 33, but am determined to get thru entire thing as it may provide some answers for me as to who built the Pyramids at Giza. I've taken notes and have a theory that incorporates the Great Pyramid into the basis of you what have provided thus far upto page 33 or in other words there is more than a direct connection between Enki, the Annunaki etc and the Egyptians.

You may have covered this already but up to where I am I don't recall this being mentioned.

What are your thoughts about the Great Pyramid having been the location for the gate that Nimrod 'moved' from the Tower of Babel? Instead of the Osirieon Abzu?

What I have compiled so far in my research and all of the notes I've taken thus far from this thread seemingly points to the Pyramids as being Enki's E.ABZU.(In my view) Or being built by Nimrod?

Here's one connection of many I've come across....Nimrod was also known as the Egyptian Osiris correct? And Osiris was associated to the constellation Orion. The Giza Pyramids, it has been widely suggested, are laid out to form Orion's belt. To me this is a direct link (if you believe the Orion/Gizamids connection) to Nimrod. The design is also of a Ziggurat. And I remember reading how they were capped with gold? I'd have to find the reference...

Also have you heard of the 'bottomless pit' in the underground chamber of the GP?

Edit--apologies if this has been covered in the last half, if it has I'll get to it soon.

[edit on 5-1-2008 by 11one11]

I'd be interested in hearing your theories on it.
The Shabaka Stone says that Osiris went to the House of Sokar where he entered the portal of the Lords of Eternity. This house of sokar was in the north of the land to which he had come. The land to which he had come was Abydos. In the north of Abydos, is the Osirieon. Abydos also is pronounced "Abzu" (egyptian spelling is abdju, dj sounds like z), so I considered the word to be time specific. Most alternative history researchers believe the Giza pyramids to predate late Akkad and some even think they predate Sumer. As a result, it's entirely possible (if true) that if it did house a gate, that it may have been called something else, in a language we are not familiar with because there's no existing examples.

I don't think he moved the babel (eridu) gate. I think he moved the Nibru gate, called the DUR.ANKI (the heaven-earth bond). problem is, i can't prove it.


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P.S. I believe Ra and Enki (Ea) are one and the same. This based on the Legend of the Destruction of Mankind, in which Ra is described and his description is a perfect match for the description of Enki's E.ABZU. This was a real head scratcher for me for awhile until I realized that they were personifying buildings and important objects and vice-a-versa, in Egypt in that timeframe. Hathor became the Eye of Ra. The Eye of Ra was a device that destroyed mankind with a flood of red water. etc etc. Which doesn't mean that Ra didn't exist as anything but a building, but rather that he and his description were intimately tied in with older texts describing Enki and his floating, flying temple.

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I would definitely like to share with you what I've compiled as most of it is based on what you've presented here in this thread. I've just been taking notes and connecting the dots along the way. And the more I read the more and more it seems clear to me that Egypt(and quite possibly the Gizamids) plays a significant role in all of this. Based on what you've presented the connection to Egypt can not be denied.

Here's another interesting thing that occurred to me while reading thru here. You made a mention of:

Gate Guardians
(cherubim of eden gates- biblical)
(guardians of the abzu gate - sumerian)
(scorpion-beings of mount mashu gates - akkadian)
(sphnixes/griffons of babylon gates - babylonian (note, although city gates, i believe they are trying to depict the cherubim of eden gates)

The 4th one down is the one that caught my eye on this list. A Sphinx as a gate guardian. Now where do we all know of the existence of a Sphinx? And then I wondered, could the Sphinx's pose be one of a guard like stance in front of the Great Pyramid? Again this is just me putting things together and of course is just a theory....

There's more. You made a reference to Mt Meru:

references to Mt. Meru (Mt. Sumeru), which I believe, would've been a reference, originally, to Enki's E.ABZU in ancient Sumer. Mt. Sumeru is depicted as an hourglass shape, which was a theme I had picked up on in relation to my star gate theory - that being the shape of the wormhole itself

As soon as I read the reference to the hourglass I instantly thought of the constellation Orion, which takes on the distinct shape of an hour glass in the sky. Could be just a coincidence but it struck me as an important correlation. One that provides another possible link between Enki's E.ABZU and the Pyramids at Giza.

Again if you've covered this then my apologies. But if you haven't, what do you think?

I do have some more ideas.

Originally posted by undo
This was a real head scratcher for me for awhile until I realized that they were personifying buildings and important objects and vice-a-versa, in Egypt in that timeframe.

Thats interesting. Makes me wonder then if the head dresses worn by the Pharaohs were influenced by the Sphinx and not the other way around?

Which reminds me. Here's something you pointed out which could point to a possible Sphinx / Enki connection:

In addition to creating "humans" (and I use that word loosely), Enki purportedly created "monsters," such as various animal-human hybrids, in his Temple of E.ABZU at Eridu. In short, he was playing with the genetics of the various species of life on this planet.

The Sphinx being a Lion-human hybrid...Just a thought

PS I have to read more on Ra and the DUR.ANKI. I forget where they stand in all of this..


[edit on 5-1-2008 by 11one11]

DUR.ANKI is actually a sumerian device in Enlil's fortress in Nibru (during Sumer,anyway). It's a wide sea without horizon (an abyss, an abzu), called the HEAVEN-EARTH BOND.

Ra is tied moreso to Enki and the ABZU, which never really had another name until later, when it was also called GANZER, APSU, ABSU and variations on the door to the underworld. But since there was more than one, it kinda gets confusing. My current theory is, there were at least 3 in ancient Sumer:

1. The BIG one that Enki arrived here from, which was at the time, on the floor of the Persian Gulf, but which today would probably be located under the Euphrates river.

2. The smaller one at Eridu.

3. Another smaller one at Nibru.


Remember those scenes of the pharaohs on their heavenly boats, on which a doorway with a snake winding around it is perched on? They called it the Heavenly Boat. That's gotta be the gate. Osiris and Isis arrive at Abydos with entourage and DUR.ANKI in tow, on a boat. It's a memory of past events, as described by their earliest texts, of the arrival of Osiris in Egypt.

I've considered Orion. The major sites all seemed to have a celestial equivalent by the time the Old Kingdom was in full swing. Heck even the E.ABZU had one: The Field Constellation.

As regards the sphinx, yeah, that crossed my mind as well. One problem though, it appears to have had plastic surgery, as it doesn't fit the body, the material is different, it looks newer. If it is newer, there's no telling what may have been the original head on it.

Undo, do you have theory on why some goverment buildings have mastaba's on the top of them, like the images shown below? Could it be that som people on the inside know that these are the star gates from old and use this as signal their knowledge to others, or could they even hold working star gates? (I know I'm grasping for straws here )


Los Angeles



Images from this link


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how this guy could float above the Luxor hotel in Vegas?

www.youtube.com...

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I've read somewhere in the akkadian texts, that at least one of the official temples of the timeframe was called the White House. I'd have to find it again to be sure. But it's in one of the old texts, at the very least.

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The porn was a bit much. I'm rather doubting they have literal sex at this juncture. If anything, it would probably be genetic manipulation.

As far as the guy floating up there. Notta clue. Could be anything, really. I know when we went to Vegas years ago, they had a building with a jet engine in it, that you could jump into the stream of and it would levitate you with the force of air, above the floor. but you had to wear a jumpsuit and goggles and your hair and clothing would be whipping around due to the speed of the air. Only thing flapping around on him was his sleeves. Could've been holographically projected. Could've been roped up on strings. Could be electromagnetic repulsion (opposing magnets). Could be advanced tech or even a mirror trick. I'm really not sure.


[edit on 6-1-2008 by undo]

Undo,

I'm still working on a couple of other ideas that I'd like to run past you, still gathering info. But a couple quick questions again.

Does the Great Pyramid( and/or the other Gizamids) fit into you theory as a possible gate?
And if it doesn't then why not?

And in the mean time some interesting write ups to wrap your mind around re: traversable wormholes and such...

Time Machine at the LHC
Traversable wormholes in a string cloud
Wormholes with a space- and time-dependent equation of state
Traversable Wormholes Construction in (2+1) Gravity

Cheers.

[edit on 6-1-2008 by 11one11]

Originally posted by 11one11
Undo,

Does the Great Pyramid( and/or the other Gizamids) fit into you theory as a possible gate?
And if it doesn't then why not?

I' m not entirely sure what to make of Giza. If it predates Sumer, it may predate human (as in homo sapian) presence on this planet (as it is my theory we were brought here, through the gate from elsewhere, when Genesis gets underway (the expulsion from Eden being a depiction of this event). This would coincide with the Ubaidian period (just before Sumer). As a result, it's hard to tell what it was originally used for. The theories are rampant.

Let's consider that it was a gate location, where the heck did that one go?!! Who has it? Is it still there, and if so, where? And how could it avoid all the sensors scanning that place night and day, practically?

Why isn't there reference to it in the Sumerian texts or Akkadian for that matter?

This is all very interesting to look into and research. I'm currently reading a book called The Gilgamesh Epic and Old Testament Parallels by Alexander Heidel. I guess my question would be how can we be sure that anyone is interpreting the ancient writings correctly? All these tablets were broken and all they have for the most part are pieces here and there that they are trying to read/interpret and put together in the right order. How did the people of modern times gain the ability to read and interpret these ancient writings? Can we be sure that they are doing this correctly?


In the book it's mentioned that Stephen Langdon of Oxford published a Sumerian myth which he claimed talked about paradise, the flood, and the fall of man. It goes on to say that Stephen's interpretation was erroneous and the story recorded on that tablet had no bearing whatsoever of the account of the deluge.

If this is the case, then who is right in their interpretation???


Tony

Originally posted by leachbed67



In the book it's mentioned that Stephen Langdon of Oxford published a Sumerian myth which he claimed talked about paradise, the flood, and the fall of man. It goes on to say that Stephen's interpretation was erroneous and the story recorded on that tablet had no bearing whatsoever of the account of the deluge.

If this is the case, then who is right in their interpretation???


Tony

There's more than one account of the events, from more than one timeframe, and more than one researcher. There's geological evidence, presented by scientists, regarding the eight foot of flood silt that sumer was dug out from. Sumer was literally buried under it. Some researchers confuse Akkad with Sumer, they are infact, separated by the flood event which geologists call the Black Sea Flood.

Google Video Link

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undo

when u talk of stargates do u mean the stargates from stargate sg 1 and stargate atlantis

they are great shows

Originally posted by Dark_Ace
undo

when u talk of stargates do u mean the stargates from stargate sg 1 and stargate atlantis

Erm, if you read the first 20 pages or so of the thread, i think that question is answered.

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I understand there's a lot of interpretations to the ancient writings. What I mean is, we are reading many different interpretations OF the ancient writings. Who's to say that any of them are correct interpretations. I can't read the ancients writings and so we are left with depending on all the "interpretations" to make a decision as to what we believe they say. And the are so fragmented in some cases and in different languages?? I've read some of Sitchin's books and many think his interpretations are not correct. It's all just so confusing. I don't think I'll ever be completely sure of anything which is a sad thing because isn't that what we are all searching for in life? I mean, where did we come from, how did we get here, why are we here, etc...
The more I read the more confusing it becomes...

Tony

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Well, that's how I solve the problem -- I read as many different interpretations as I can, and where they agree with each other, I consider it as more valid. Sometimes finding agreements is a matter of knowing what the words mean in their original language (rather than after translation).

For example, the timeframe as stipulated by the russians, for the Black Sea Flood, coincides with the sumerian-akkadian timeline. That's a confirmation. Abdju (Abydos) is pronounced Abzu. That's a confirmation. There's hundreds of these little confirming bits and pieces that have, in many cases, only varied due to cultural skew or tradition, but the rest reconfirms.