Stargates are real

Originally posted by David2012
Although I'm very fond of the stargate idea and do think it's the case. But about it being wonderful. I think we have to thread carefully if we really find something like it. Some myths and legend seem to indicate opening it, or it being opened remotely by the creators would be a disastrous event.

If we find it and it's like we think it is, a whole different viewpoint comes to mind. Simple questions like is it hazardous? safe for humans to be near to? Are we sure we want contact with what's on the other side? Remember if they created us they might feel like they own us aswell. Not to mention a whole range of other things. invasive organisms coming through to this world could be a catastrophe for animal and plant life and in turn for us. Diseases that we might or might not be affected by and so on.

Wonderful yes but if ever found should be handled cautiously. We already know what can happen for example when you bring a species of animal to a place where it does not belong (only example springing up right now is how pigs we brought along for food made Dodo's go extinct (they destroyed the nest which were simply laying on the ground as the dodo did not have a natural enemy) or when we go to remote places and encounter a devastating disease (ebola comes to mind)

On the other hand..emotionally. I want to find it.. yesterday if possible

I think, the opening of the Bottomless Pit, mentioned in Revelation 9, is the opening of the stargate before we are ready as a species for this to be done. This invites the "bad guys" back here and that's where the crapola hits the fanola. If you read, however, the arrival of New City Jerusalem, we are all in perfected bodies by then, that apparently are eternal. So, it sounds like we finally get to go mainline and out into the universe/ other dimensions, the way it was originally intended.

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Originally posted by b3rgY
Yes stargates are real. It's black hole transport.
As I write to technology forum about advanced technologies like antigravity and AI there is also project like this I'll post military links here.

Thanks for finding those... Quite impressive and pretty much makes the case...


Unfortunately few will catch the significance, let alone read them

Your new here to our thread... have a look around the Pegasus site... I am always looking for more articles like that.

I have a huge collection of pdf files on similar topics, like anti gravity and warp drives from Los Alamos National Laboratory... I think this week I will have time to organize them into groups...

Pegasus Research Consortium
landoflegends.us...

If you have any more to share I will be glad to post them on the website... Always looking for another pair of eyes to find stuff...

Our Stargate pages...
landoflegends.us...

And this menu gets you all our researchers and associates
landoflegends.us...


[edit on 2-4-2007 by zorgon]

[non serious mode]

Undo I have a proposal for you? Why don't we co-author a book. We stand to make oodles of cash which we can then use to fund our own expeditions based on your / our idea's? And find this thing

seriously .....

[/non serious mode]

sorry just crept up in my mind and had to post

Originally posted by undo
They are .pdf files. Requires Adobe something or other, forget the actual name but i believe the program is free to download (one of the only adobe programs that's free to download, if i remember correctly).

Yup Adobe Acrobat reader its free and if you have Firefox it comes as a plugin

Originally posted by David2012
[non serious mode]

Undo I have a proposal for you? Why don't we co-author a book. We stand to make oodles of cash which we can then use to fund our own expeditions based on your / our idea's? And find this thing

seriously .....

[/non serious mode]

sorry just crept up in my mind and had to post

Working on a book with Zorgon atm. "The Living Moon", which is not done yet. But when that non serious mode changes to serious mode and the living moon is finished, might be interesting.

LOL speaking of which, I have the next week and a half off... so its back to crunch time.... but hey you can do both at the same time... after all you already have more than enough on the Stargate theory, so you could just pull that up

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Originally posted by zorgon


LOL speaking of which, I have the next week and a half off... so its back to crunch time.... but hey you can do both at the same time... after all you already have more than enough on the Stargate theory, so you could just pull that up

Bait and switch eh? Ha! Nopers. I'm a single-minded individual. 'Sides, i already have enough trouble as it is, keeping up with your material. I need to be focused on one thing at a time. I can multitask but that's a bit much!

Errr wait. David2012, you want to go on an expedition to find what?

Originally posted by undo
Errr wait. David2012, you want to go on an expedition to find what?

Enki's Stargate silly....

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by undo
Errr wait. David2012, you want to go on an expedition to find what?

Enki's Stargate silly....

If that's what he was thinking, he must be missing the point . : /

hey i'm back for more, whats this point you guys are talking about

Originally posted by razor1000
hey i'm back for more, whats this point you guys are talking about

Discovering Enki's gate would be almost the same as fulfilling the opening of the Bottomless pit verses in Revelation 9. No thanks!

I find it rather curious that the description of the locust beings that emerge from the pit, pretty much approximates the appearance of the Wraith from Stargate: Atlantis.

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Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by razor1000
hey i'm back for more, whats this point you guys are talking about

Discovering Enki's gate would be almost the same as fulfilling the opening of the Bottomless pit verses in Revelation 9. No thanks!

I find it rather curious that the description of the locust beings that emerge from the pit, pretty much approximates the appearance of the Wraith from Stargate: Atlantis.

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yeah i guess you could call it a pandora's box, well if all the prophecies hold true this gate should be opened in 2012 and reaching a higher state of being might mean we go from corporial to full energy beings so then probably thats what they mean by perfected bodies

I have a theory: Stargates are NOT real. Now wouldn't it be interesting if someone could actually prove my theory wrong? I am pretty sure they can't, because if they could, Stargates would be common knowledge and people would be talking about them every day... Lay off the Sci-Fi movies!

hey undo wh dont you post material on this stuff on wikipedia so it gets more exposure

Wow long post. My only 2 cents in this is the following;

Anyone here speak ancient hebrew/latin/whatever language these ancient texts are written in? Usually they are up for interpretation and depending on who interprets the texts you get various meanings.

Example, you get flying carpets and Alladin from Vimana (Google it) in some cases and stealth bombing heat seeking missile launching UFOs from another dude.

However this topic is intriguing. I sure have a door open for the possibility that we might just not find the missing link since we're just a bad/good hybrid created for some reason (slaves..entertainment..boredom..experiment). It certainly is more likely than creationism in my opinion.

Originally posted by lasse
Wow long post. My only 2 cents in this is the following;

Anyone here speak ancient hebrew/latin/whatever language these ancient texts are written in? Usually they are up for interpretation and depending on who interprets the texts you get various meanings.

Example, you get flying carpets and Alladin from Vimana (Google it) in some cases and stealth bombing heat seeking missile launching UFOs from another dude.

However this topic is intriguing. I sure have a door open for the possibility that we might just not find the missing link since we're just a bad/good hybrid created for some reason (slaves..entertainment..boredom..experiment). It certainly is more likely than creationism in my opinion.

is that so so then how do you explain all the fossils that have been found of ancient man who is neither mokey nor human maybe the story of the goddess and the monkey is for real and this is how we evolved i doubth that we were just a clay model given life like the bible says and i dont believe we are an experiment by aliens cuz if that was the case we would be on a cage

well the problem is, if you hear the story told from the perspective of Enki, he claims when they (sons of Anu) first encountered the sentient lifeforms on the planet (namely humans), that we were uncivilized, ran about without clothing and drank out of the rivers like animals. so he decided we needed an upgrade.

out of this, sitchin derives his theory that the humans running around without clothes and drinking out of the rivers were not homo sapiens but cro magnons or neandethrals or homo erectus.

yet if you look at the biblical explanation,it's almost identical. the adam and the eve, ran about sans clothing and drank out of the rivers right next to the animals who they were able to co-exist with, without incident.

the question is, if both are relating the same tale (both enki version and biblical version), why is sitchin's retelling of it trying to impress on our minds that what enki saw was not homo sapiens?

afterall, a human can run around without clothing and drink out of the river without incident next to animals that are not afraid of them because they pose no threat, and not be cavemen per sey. to me it wreaks of darwinism, which is disguised white supremacy, that from its onset, tries to say that black people and primitive tribal cultures are not homo sapiens. an example is a quote from one of the early proponents of evolutionary theory, who claimed the black man was the equivalent, intellectually, of an 11 year old homo sapiens (which he insinuated was the white man, only).

there are many tribes that are referred to as primitive that are only consider primitive because they adopt a certain type of lifestyle. who is to say one life style is less primitive than the other? i simply don't know. i mean, our westernized life style does lead to innovations and advances in medicine, but it also is destroying the planet and the genomes of nearly every living thing on the planet. to me it seems like repeat of what happened to the pre-adamite AND ante-diluvian cultures.



[edit on 3-4-2007 by undo]

the above ties directly into a theory that was initially inspired by two things:

1. A theory that the gates of Eden were stargates.
2. A photograph of a space colony that Zorgon had sent me, shown inroute between one planet and another, complete with geodesic domes for gardens. I believe he sent in as regards Noah's ark and the concept of a spaceworthy "garden", what i got out of it was slightly different.

For example, I had connected what I thought were rather interesting dots between Enki's Abzu gate, Enlil's Abzu gate, Gilgamesh's Gates of Paradise, and the biblical Gates of Eden. They all had the same things in common:

1. Each set of gates was guarded by a pair of beings of unique description. In the biblical instance they were called "cherubim". In the Gilgamesh account, it was "Scorpion Men." In the Enki account, it doesn't state who or what they are, only depicts them as tall beings with long staffs with rings dangling off them and hair with some kind of circular decorative or other embellishment meant to depict almost anything, really. In the Enlil account, there was no description or artwork depicting the gates (or the heaven-earth bound), although it does say it is like a wide sea that knows no horizon.

Breaking it down further, I noted the "flaming swords of the cherubim" which went back and forth around the gates of Eden, so entry could not be gained to Eden. This seemed to be suggested in the Enki depiction by the rings dangling off the long staffs, which could've been meant to emulate glowing, pulsating, fiery, that kinda thing. The Gilgamesh scorpion men were described as having eyes that emitted power of some kind, that could strike a man dead, and over the entire gate structure was some kind of forcefield that apparently blocked the (the flaming swords of the cherubim?) gates.

So running with this concept, I tried to decide what might be at the other end of these gates, that the humans were not allowed entry to, and if it was consistently the same concept, across the board.

For example, in the Eden example, the humans were barred from accessing the gates to Eden. No mention is made of any other beings using the gates of Eden, except for when humans are kicked out of Eden, via the gates.

In the Gilgamesh example, the humans were barred from accessing the gates to Paradise but demi-gods such as Gilgamesh, could use them, or humans turned immortal could use them.

In the Enki example, there's no mention of humans being blocked from accessing the gates, although there is mention in some texts that use of these gates by humans constitues a one way journey -no return is possible.

In the Enlil example, there's mention of the gates leading to the courtyard of "An" or "Anu". somewhere in the heavens, and a journey is made threw it by Adapa, who is suggested to be a human. He is sent there for the purposes of dining with the Anuna and An, and is given instructions by Enki, prior to going, to not eat or drink anything that is offered to him. Little does he know, that if he eats or drinks these things, he will gain immortality as this meal is a meal of the gods, a meal that induces immortality and is being offered to him as a reward for something good he's supposedly done. (this is one of the stories where Enki is the bad guy, apparently, and is like a reverse coin of "don't eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil" story, with the opposite results of immortality gained instead of immortality lost, but which ends up with the same result -immortality lost, when, following Enki's instructions, Adapa doesn't eat or drink the immortal meal and loses the chance to be immortal - Tree of Life reference, no doubt). It's believed Adapa may have been another name for Adam. However, in this case, Adapa is allowed to return threw the gate, breaking comparison with the other examples where the gate is one way only for humans. Apparently, part of the story that explains this abnormality is either obscured, undefined or missing.

Taking this information, I arranged a total picture of what is at the other end of the Gates of Eden/Paradise/Anu/Abzu

A. A courtyard (garden??)
B. A Paradise garden where the trees grow crystals instead of fruit
C. Eden garden, where the trees grow food that causes you to live forever and gain knowledge of good and evil
D. A room capable of supporting a dinner table, chairs of some sort, bowls and other items for eating immortal food and immortal drinks.
E. A horrible place, a fortress of death and torment, where entry is gained only after being stripped of clothing (mentioned in Inana's journey to the underworld story)

Also, taking this information, I arranged a total picture of who is at the other end of the Gates of Eden/Paradise/Anu/Abzu

A. Courtyard example, Anuna and Anu. the gods.
B. Paradise example, Noah figure
C. Eden example, God, the Serpent, the Adam and the Eve, various animals
D. Underworld example, Evil Lady of Death and Torture and her minions, Inana and her husband, lots of dead and dying and partially decayed people, some hung on hooks. And more Anuna.

After finding the examples of each instance, the next thing was to determine where the gates lead to besides the immediate descriptions. Did they go anywhere on the planet or what?

1. In the Courtyard example, it was in the heavens.
2. In the Paradise example, it was at the end of a long journey through a totally black tunnel.
3. In the Eden example, there's no reference only that the trip between Eden and the new life outside Eden appeared to be instanteous and through a gate. The description of how the travel was done, is not mentioned, either for brevity sake, omitted or stricken from oral/written record.
4. In the underworld example, the trip is through seven gates to some other place called the land of no return and the house of death, etc.

There is one more example, but it's not very clear in my mind at the moment, but the trip involved some guy who decided he wanted to do the wild thang with one of the goddesses and he took the series of gates to see her. It isn't clear in my mind atm whether it was a physical gate or one of these heavenly or underworld gate examples.

Anyway, while reading a non-fiction work about the usage of imagery depicting the precession of the equinoxes in ancient times and artworks, I came upon a picture that was supposedly rescued from a babylonian dig of an ancient babylonian library. In the image, is a set of constellations (this will make sense in a minute). Each constellation is named and depicts drawings of the constellations in question. The most noteworthy constellation is called "I-Iku" which is the Great Square of Pegasus. It was used as the standard "field" measurement by the Sumerians and referred to as the Paradise by one of the babylonian researchers. It was here that my attention was drawn to the idea that Enki's Abzu was connected to the "Field Constellation" in the text "Enki and the World Order," which I considered a possible connection to this babylonian "I-Iku". Further verification was suggested when it was revealed the Fish constellations represented the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, but in the sky, instead of on land. So what I was looking at was a star map of the ground around Enki's E.Abzu and Abzu on earth, but in this case, in the sky. Was it possible I was seeing the exact or near exact location in the sky to which the Abzu gate connected? It was beginning to look that way. The final piece of the puzzle was in the form of the Sphinx/Cherub (the guardians of the ziggurats and pyramids and gates).

Here's the two star charts that lead to this entire chain of thought


i said all that to say this:

It dawned on me that perhaps we were never from earth, and this explains why the fossil remains are inconsistent with homo sapiens. That maybe, just maybe, our Eden was at the other end of a star gate. We went with Enki, who just happened to be hanging in our Eden, and he convinced us to make the journey threw the gate to Earth, at which point, we were stuck here as its a one way journey for humans. It was a theory that had some possibilites.

I don't evolution is as set in stone as some would like us to believe. Although this theory goes way out into the realm of scifi, I do think it bears some consideration given all the other clues and hints dropped in ancient texts.





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interesting thread

Question to the author of the thread:

I am a big fan of ths stargate conspiracy and I would like to hear your views/opinions on the matter regarding Iraq. One of the reasons for war was the possibility to locate a stargate. What do you make of this?