Stargates are real

reply to post by In nothing we trust


that's an odd comment.

it's a video from youtube. are you implying that middle easterners have no access to youtube?

posty page over thingy

i waited a few hours and it still didn't page over.

well well lookie what i found:

ATUM

The Creator God of the Ennead of Heliopolis, who rose out of the Primeval Waters (the Nun) to form the Primeval Mound, the first piece of land which emerged when the water withdrew.

Some of his epiteths were: 'Lord to the limit of the sky', 'He Who came into being of Himself', the 'Lord of All' and 'Lord of Iunu (Gr: Heliopolis)'. He self-developed into a being, standing on a raised mound; i.e. the primeval mound, which became the Benben, a pyramid shaped stone, regarded as the dwelling place of the sun god.

Atum is therefore the creator god who created the universe, he is the supreme being and master of the forces and elements of the universe. Utterance 600 in the Pyramid Texts:

"O Atum-Kheper! You became high on the height, you rose up as
the Benben Stone in the Mansion of the Phoenix in On (Heliopolis)."

By this is meant the Primeval Mound itself.

How about that ? Now who do you suppose that is?

so to add to the ongoing theory.

in genesis, the creation of Adam is seen for the first time, rather different than the traditional sunday school version.
in it, ELOHIYM (plural) creates male and female in their image, and they are together called Adam.

the idea crossed my mind that since Ham moved to Egypt after the black sea flood, the story of creation told in egypt would be similar and recognizable, but after some 3000 years of egyptian culture, it was hard to discern where the biblical version and the egyptian version agreed. i think i found it.

in essence, atum is plural. it must be, since elohiym is plural, atum must be plural as well, and since the text says elohiym created male and female in their image, even the biblical text is saying plural since it isn't just the male adam but the female adam too! (1+1=2, not 1+1=1). the only way i can think of that this might not be so is if the male and female adam were in reality one being, et. al, a single entity with male and female parts. that doesn't seem likely and because it doesn't, it adds an additional layer:

the first adam (plural) race were egyptians. red skinned egyptians, like this image from seti's tomb, of the 4 races of man, indicates:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/5d56364cb46d8da9.jpg[/atsimg]

the reason i say red skinned is because, besides the obvious implications in the image that the egyptians were red-skinned, is also the meaning of the word "adam" which is:

'adam
1) to be red, red
a) (Qal) ruddy (of Nazarites)

strongs source
www.blueletterbible.org...

it also makes sense that since moses was the compiler of the Pentateuch (first five books of the bible), that he would retain the data from the egyptian creation story since it was afterall, the same story, and he was himself raised as an egyptian for many years!

later the text claims that Atum is often depicted as a serpent. lol what can i say! Here we have the metaphor as the first male and female created with red skin who are associated with a serpent. can you say "great red dragon"? some red scaled reptilians, perhaps?

anyway, the second account of the creation of Adam is different than the first, and instead of eve being created in the image of an elohiym, she's created from adam's side -- she's taken out of adam, cloned from him, so to speak. now this could be the same story, since in this reference atum is still plural, like elohiym.

wow is that delicate work or what? i need a logic puzzle format to figure it out.

[edit on 11-3-2010 by undo]

the reference i posted on ATUM indicates that atum is " the Primeval Mound itself. "
later egyptologists would associate the primeval mound and benben with phallic worship, thus a passage that atum is the primeval mound, suggests atum is a reference to the phallus. i don't think so. it has a fertility connection but it is my contention that the connection is misconstrued due to the way the gate was personified, i.e. giving birth to the atum, the gods.

the primeval mound is the e.abzu, that enki raises from the abyss, as described by samuel noah kramer in the sumerian-akkadian text "Enki Builds the E.Engurra". in effect, atum is a deified object, which is later corroborated in the egyptian text "Legend of the Destruction of Mankind," where Ra is described in terms used to also describe the e.abzu in the sumerian-akkadian texts. this is significant because atum became known as atum-ra, connecting the gods enki, atum and ra, to a deified construct that created the gods, the atum. so in effect, these concepts are all interchangeable. it also means that initially, the first male atum and female atum creation in genesis, is not the description of the creation of humans but the creation of the gods, the atum, from the gate.

this little tidbit of information appears to be not that unknown since it appears the mormons also believe something like this, although they don't attribute it to a gate, they do believe the evidence suggests that the first humans created were gods.

[edit on 11-3-2010 by undo]

Well, I saw this today and went: "Huh?!"

beck.cnnbcvideo.com...

reply to post by Ayrton


can you translate that for me?

while you're at it, could you explain what it has to do with this thread ?

thoughts to add to yours:

ATUM: backwards spells muta, a mute or a mut, or mut a, or alpha mutt, alpha dog... etc, but sounds "atom"

'Lord to the limit of the sky': as above so below, above & beyond

the primeval mound: default matters of practically redundant justice cases, ultimate boredom

which became the Benben: big ben, tick tock, it still matters enough to keep an ordinary sense of time

Atum is therefore the creator god who created the universe: if you look at the eye directly, then it seems like the destroyer of the universe

he is the supreme being and master of the forces and elements of the universe: until inverted, yet people like an end to their curiosities, so a "creator" default helps, otherwise quantum forces help understand what was thought created

How about that ? Now who do you suppose that is?

ELOHIYM (plural) creates male and female in their image, and they are together called Adam.

From Gen 1 to Gen 19 seems like a recursive program when the words are used more as symbols. When you get to the "cave" to save the "father seed", then that is like a "goto gen 1" in a program language. The daughters were Heaven and Earth, and the father was "Elohiym", and the seed is the time line created "in the beginning..."

The story of being drunk is about the amber in evolution. The loop itself is choice of evolution or devolution. To turn back towards the city is like to return to the garden of eden, it better be worth it, or else turn to stone, which is like to come to a point where time stands still...

...where time stand still on top of the primeval mound

reply to post by undo


You lost me when you said "I am the author of two books"

reply to post by TheRandomUser


So instead of getting lost, you attempted to make a witty comment and failed.

They're FREE online books. You can find them here,
or you could try reading more than the OP's first post.

i noticed in the moebius episode of stargate sg1 and several other episodes, that they keep insisting the gate was buried on earth in 2900 BC-ish due to a rebellion, which they are apparently attributing to the story of nimrod, the rebel. they're claiming the tau'ri buried the gate themselves. from what i can tell, it's the complete opposite. i don't know why the writers and researchers of the tv series came to that conclusion. every ancient text on the subject, says the opposite.

perhaps they assumed that answer, due to narmer/nimrod/enmerkar/osiris moving the dur.anki gate to abydos? in which case it wasn't literally buried, it was just put in the subterranean osirieon, and was later hidden away (see shabaka stone, hidden portals of the lords of eternity) when the divine council decided against nimrod's use of the gate, enlisted the aide of inana (isis), divided nimrod's imperial powers between the divine council members and covered up the entire thing? (theoretically, anyway)



[edit on 25-3-2010 by undo]

reply to post by undo


You need help, and that includes not watching Stargate SG1 anymore and learning that your mere feeligns and claims are not evidence of what you say. Just replace "Stargate" with "Purple Bananas" in your post, it would be no more believable. Catchy words and phrases without evidence, are merely that.

reply to post by intrinsic


i'm basing my theories on the ancient texts, which apparently the screenplay writers for the movie, also employed. read some of the thread, to see where these ideas are coming from.

reply to post by undo


Undo...
Mate...

This quite possibly the best thread I've ever read!
Amazing research and really well put together. It's taken most of the day to read through the thread!!

I'll be spending the rest of my day off reading yer e-books.
Just finished Fingerprints of the Gods - top stuff!
Took a while to get through like. Big enough read, but got distracted by Elegant Universe by Brian Greene - now gotta finish that!
My head's pickled!!!!!

Once again, superb reading!

Much love...

reply to post by Dutch_Rick


Would u care to enlighten me and tell me where i could find this Alien base?
And please dont tell me the top of the Euromast is a UFO

regards,

reply to post by zosomike


ty.
been a long time in the making

new abzu/gate word discovered:

DUDA'EL

Dudael is the place of imprisonment for Azazel (one of the "fallen" angels), cohort of Semjaza. It is described in the book of First Enoch chapter 10 verse 4-7: And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire.

en.wikipedia.org...

the D is a B because in parts of mesopotamia, the b had a sort of dyslexic flip and things normally spelled with a b, were thereafter spelled with a d, and in some cases with a p, which are all examples of how dyslexia effects letters in words.

so that word, DUDA'EL is BUBA'EL

WHICH IS Babel. Gate of the Gods.
Which is Babilu
which is abzu.
which is the abyss
and bottomless pit of
revelation 9.

technically, the bottomless pit of revelation 9 is not identical, in that there was more than one gate. and the bottomless pit is a larger one, theoretically at the bottom of the persian gulf *currently under the 65 miles of new shoreline the euphrates river silt has created since the writing of the old texts.




[edit on 27-3-2010 by undo]

When the war in Iraq started a greek writer-researcher announced in public television that the war there is about the gates.Of course noone paid attention at the time.

We might have a gate(maybe more than one) here in Greece.There are many possible locations.One of them is in mountain Taygetos.There are also pyramids in Greece(most of them destroyed).
9 pyramids found in the Greek territory
the pyramids of Ancient Greece, which occur mainly in the Peloponnese (except the 2 findings in Voiotia and Crete).
Pyramid of Hellinikon
Mount Taygetos
• Pyramid of Kampia – New Epidaurus
• Egyptian Pyramid – Ancient Epidaurus
• Pyramid of Ligourio – Asclepium (Ligourio)
• Pyramid Dalamanara – Nafplion
• 2 Pyramids of Fichthia – Mycene
• Pyramid of Neapolis

Also there are many reports that strange things(time-space distortions etc) happen in caves on the mountains around Athens.The Greek Army has closed many of the caves(or parts of the caves) with no good reason or in the case of mount Immitos it is forbidden to go there after sunset!

Anyway i don't know if the gates are still there or if they have been removed or disabled.

If we look in Egypt especially below pyramids , Temples , we find Sarcoghagi .. They build massive tunnels only to lead us to these square boxes that they havent ever found any remains in maybe animal remains and a few human but those Sarcophagi are irrelevant or are they? .. Consider The great Pyramid of Giza ( where I believe one of the stargates is.

I believe whole heartadly that we need to give these Stargates power somehow

I was told through what I interrupt as " Remote viewing " by a very human looking ( Except for his skin tone ) too .. "Put a Battery in the sarcophagus" thats all this entitiy said , He looked me right in the eye.

It was the god Ninurta that emptied The Great Pryamid according to most alternative scholars especially Sitchin..

He even said there was a great " Power device " in what is the Coffer in TGP.







[edit on 29-3-2010 by gLuEBoY]

reply to post by gLuEBoY


he may have been alluding to the ark because there's a theory on the subject, claiming the dimensions of the coffer are the same as that of the ark (of the covenant).