Stargates are real

reply to post by zorgon


they recovered the eridu statue!?!
oh wow. wonder who had it.

posting to get it to page over.
see my post above

This thread got me thinking about a C2C program that came out long ago. This guy accidentally created a portal of some sort. This is just part one. The rest is at youtube.

PART 1

reply to post by cloakndagger


That is a lot of JUICE Even Tesla only played around with low amperage stuff...


Thanks for finding that I will listen tomorrow and take notes

reply to post by cloakndagger


i listened to this show when it aired originally, and then listened to it again, when i had a subscription to c2c a while back, and found it in the archives of past shows. art seemed to find the entire thing humorous. here's this kid (to him anyway) inadvertently discovering some strange new phenomenon, virtually by accident, while wrecklessly cranking unheard of amounts of electricity. guy must be one of those child prodigies who managed to fulfill some of his curiosity about the nature of nature, as an adult.

Originally posted by Just-Think
Fohat is described as a "serpent who dug holes in space", in other words a worm(serpent)hole..

I thought Fohat was Tibetan? or do the Hindus have him too?

Fohat–The Great Transformer

Fohat is a Tibetan term for the energic or motion aspect of the Supreme Spirit. It is usually considered in its metaphysical aspect, which is rather difficult to understand; therefore, side by side with the metaphysical, the ethical and practical-application aspect should also be understood.

www.teosofia.com...

Great resource here..

Fohat
www.theosophycanada.com...

reply to post by zorgon


the theosophical society i notice, has a tendency to reinterpret what has already been interpreted, much like i do, but with the added premise of insisting in a sitchin-esque way, that there's no possibility of mistake or error in the re-interpretation. perhaps i'm so accustomed to using multiple sources to support my theories, that i think everyone should if they're going to leave the well beaten path. then again, i have some theories that are complete conjecture with little to no support in any other text. i dunno.

i guess, theosophy is confusing to read, most likely because as with mainstream sciences and history, once an idea has been set in stone by a past member of high ranking, it's nigh on impossible to change their position. too many important logs on the fire, as it were. and new evidence does little to sway that opinion or to change the course of the movement.

there are still people today who assume ancient history is a lie because none of it has been substantiated. seriously! they read the suggested books on the topic, many of which were written since the advent of the enlightenment, and don't get one piece of relevant data about what is happening right now and what has been learned about the ancient past in the last 200 years!

reply to post by zorgon


I took google earth and did a partially-transparent image overaly of the orion constellation over the pyramids.

What I found was pretty confusing..

In one orientation (with Betelgeuse North of the 3 pyramids supposedly representing the stars of orion's belt) Betelgeuse is located near a road/highway about 1/2 mile Northwest of the "Grand Egyptian Museum".

Rotated 180 degrees to the opposite orientation (keeping the center star in the 3-star belt of orion centered on the center pyramid) Betelgeuse ends up in what looks like a very normal residential area with roads and houses.

The theory that Betelgeuse, with relation to the great pyramids and orion, represents some kind of as-yet-to-be-discovered treasure trove of archaeological artifacts.. It definately isn't backed up with what can be seen on google earth. And, obviously, that would explain why it hasn't been found yet. But what I was really expecting to see was some pyramid or other egyptian ruin at the site when there's simply nothing of the sort.

There could always be tunnels underground or something, I suppose. But 1.75 miles from the great pyramid under a residential area?

Underneath the sphinx or something, that would make more sense to me(which is where Edgar Cayce said the hall of records was built).

-ChriS

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i mean, how much water would be needed to flood over the straits into the Mediterranean basin and fill it entirely up, flood over the opposite end into the black sea and down into the valleys of mesopotamia? THAT'S A LOT OF WATER. 2 mainstream geologists figured it out. what did the other mainstream geologists say?
"fairy tale land. "

i rest my case.

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reply to post by BlasteR


oh oh that is very interesting. at one point, i did some research as to the possibility of Isis taking the dur.anki gate out of the osirieon and where she might've stashed it. that lead me up to cairo. is the place near cairo?

Originally posted by BlasteR
Underneath the sphinx or something, that would make more sense to me(which is where Edgar Cayce said the hall of records was built).

Almost forgot about him...

In the ISIS thread I posted this

Gaius Plinius Secundus (AD 23 – August 25, 79), better known as Pliny the Elder, in his book Natural History wrote:

In front of them [i.e. The Giza Pyramids] is the Sphinx, which deserves to be described even more than they, and yet the Egyptians have passed it over in silence. The inhabitants of the region regard it as a deity. They are of the opinion that a King Harmais is buried inside it... [Book 36 XVII]

So even back then there was a story about something beneath the Sphinx... and more important... the Egyptians of the day had no idea the meaning of the Sphinx

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And your vid reminded me of this video of this man who claims to have travelled into the past. He also claims to have proof!

He explains everything in the vid.



Don't know if I believe the guy, personally, but It's one of my favorite youtube vids. You hear this guy's story and you can tell he's being completely honest and open about everything.. I just listen to this guy's story and wonder, you know? He just seems like a very normal, very easy going guy who experienced something amazing.

And, Zorgon, perhaps this could have something to do with the "Naturally occurring" wormholes we were discussing earlier on from that government document.

This also seems comparable to the guy that flew into the time vortex over the bermuda triangle. His fuel consumption is still a complete mystery to this day. But perhaps these naturally occurring anomalies have varying levels of intensity (some powerful enough to teleport people back in time and vice versa.. some powerful enough to teleport an entire aircraft and clouds with it). But randomly occurring in sync with geomagnetic anomalies and other factors.. Things like geomagnetic flux over time.

If these kinds of anomalies are already naturally occurring and we just can't see them, maybe they're all around us all the time. And that is what makes the idea of stargates that much more intriguing. If they already exist its just a matter of manipulating that energy with the proper technology. It wouldn't be like having to artifically open one from scratch, which would require some pretty remarkable energy and resources.

Especially considering things like flight 19.. And the fact that the rescue aircraft sent out to search for them also disappeared without a trace (WOW). If the causes for these things are geology-related, they would obviously be more powerful in some geographic areas than others. And that brings up a whole plethora of things people have been talking about for decades. Things like ley-lines and UFO hotspots and how these things all tie together by having unknown geologic/geomagnetic causes.

-ChriS

i think this thread is starting to attract negative attention from someone who has decided to make the topic of portals an unpopular topic amongst ufology community. i have no clue why. this isn't a clique-ish thread. it's not a cult. and it certainly isn't set in stone. i don't know any of the people in it except zorgon and i only know him because of his interest in the topic. this thread is its own phenomenon because the subjects of ancient history and modern science are starting to merge.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by BlasteR

 

oh oh that is very interesting. at one point, i did some research as to the possibility of Isis taking the dur.anki gate out of the osirieon and where she might've stashed it. that lead me up to cairo. is the place near cairo?

Yes, actually! I think both locations of Betelgeuse ended up being basically on the W/SW outskirts of Cairo much like the pyramids are. Only the locations betelgeuse was in appeared to be near houses, roads, and highways which basically threw me off.

If you line up the stars of Orion's belt with the 3 pyramids, Betelgeuse ends up being either 1.75 miles Northwest or 1.75 miles Southeast from the great pyramid (depending on what orientation you put the stars in with relation to the pyramids).

So, basically, Betelgeuse would line up within a 2-mile radius of the great pyramid of Giza. But it ends up being almost exactly 1.75 miles.

If I had more time tonite, I would've taken some screenshots of what I'm seeing. Maybe tomorrow! . I've already worked 46 hours this week and I'm working tomorrow and this weekend! (Tired).

Something interesting that I've never thought of before is the possibility that the pyramids represent an alignment with another constellation, not necessarily orion. A website I saw earlier about 2012 illustrated how it's quite feasible the pyramids are representing the constellation Cygnus (the swan, also referred to as the Northern Cross).

I'm wondering what justifies a link with Orion, in particular, other than the 3 stars in alignment and how we assume they must've had something to do with the pyramids' construction. I'm guessing the linkage is based on a best-guess assumption? I'm just not sure what else would prove such a link even exists.

-ChriS

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Huh, what do you mean?

reply to post by BlasteR


Well, this kinda goes hand in hand with the "mountain phenomena" like the Untersberg.

Discussed here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by BlasteR
reply to post by zorgon

 

I took google earth and did a partially-transparent image overaly of the orion constellation over the pyramids.

What I found was pretty confusing..

In one orientation (with Betelgeuse North of the 3 pyramids supposedly representing the stars of orion's belt) Betelgeuse is located near a road/highway about 1/2 mile Northwest of the "Grand Egyptian Museum".

Rotated 180 degrees to the opposite orientation (keeping the center star in the 3-star belt of orion centered on the center pyramid) Betelgeuse ends up in what looks like a very normal residential area with roads and houses.

The theory that Betelgeuse, with relation to the great pyramids and orion, represents some kind of as-yet-to-be-discovered treasure trove of archaeological artifacts.. It definately isn't backed up with what can be seen on google earth. And, obviously, that would explain why it hasn't been found yet. But what I was really expecting to see was some pyramid or other egyptian ruin at the site when there's simply nothing of the sort.

There could always be tunnels underground or something, I suppose. But 1.75 miles from the great pyramid under a residential area?

Underneath the sphinx or something, that would make more sense to me(which is where Edgar Cayce said the hall of records was built).

-ChriS

[edit on 7-8-2009 by BlasteR]

Thanks BlasterR. So it could be located under that 50 hectares of land cleared for the "Grand Egyptian Museum"... interesting.

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zorgon

Originally posted by zorgon

Good point

Only problem is who do we get to look? Dr Hawass is not likely to be friendly to the concept... maybe contact one of those German or Swiss teams....
Hmmmm I will toss this into the other thread... maybe we can come up with
something. Sure is an interesting idea... if there is anything to the Orion story

NEWS FLASH: LOST TEMPLE OF BETELGEUSE FOUND !!!!!!

Now that would be great.

Well at least i did find something, I think.

Your post on Betelgeuse, got me thinking zorgon, and when I start thinking watch out!!!
We all know that the pyramids coincide with the stars of Orion's Belt (So the theory goes).
So what would happen if we overlayed a 'scale' representation of Orion on the pyramid's region and found the coinciding point of Betelgeuse??

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The standard idea of Orion / Giza lineup. Notice the star Al Nitak and it's correspondence to the Khufu Pyramid (It is the largest star in the belt)

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A plan drawing of the Giza site oriented to true North (You will see why in a moment)

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Here is Giza in same orientation.

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Here is Betelgeuse star map of Orion.

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Still keeping same orientation we pan out to get a wider view.

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Star map of Orion (In correct Orientation (Now you know why we rotated that drawing of the Giza site): NOTICE where the star Betelgeuse points to.

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Viola the site of the Proposed lost Temple of Betelgeuse.

Some obvious things are apparent, the round circular object, the row of statues to the left.
Another thing i would like to bring up is that the road from Giza to here follows nearly exactly the star map line from Al Nitak to Betelgeuse.

This would be a most interesting site to dig up (If it hasn't already been).

reply to post by Ayrton


this guy says

I have read about people seeing portals opening up and that a "different dimension takes place". ...Well each to thery're own but I think that this is very far fetched. Its bad enough trying to explain or prove the "existence" of Aliens- let alone Portals that have some science fiction 'node" of super "non-fictious" creatures -sprawling about-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

to me that wreaks of an attempt to alter the way the ufology and ats community views the topic of portals, star gates or anything resembling them, such as teleportation.

i will NOT be used as an object lesson on this subject, nor as a means to drive people's attention away from the subject by ostracizing the research and essentially any similar threads such as this that draw attention from time to time. if that is his intention, all he has to do is give me a decent reason why it needs to go away. if he can't, then he's in for some surprises.

reply to post by starwarp2000


well now, THAT is interesting. i still haven't been able to determine if the dur.anki gate left nibru. nor have i been able to determine if there wasn't already an abzu in the osirieon, in which case the dur.anki wouldn't be necessary. and i haven't been able to determine if there was an abzu in the osirieon if it ever left the premises. the story of it goes something like this:

in abydos, nimrod (osiris/narmer/enmerkar/asarludu/ni-marad, etc) built the osirieon, founded dynastic egypt and died shortly thereafter from a "plot", that involved Set (shem??? really?) and theoretically, Isis (inanna, ishtar, etc).

because of his flub up at the babel gate, he had fled to what would be called abydos (pronounced abzu) and became involved with the osirieon. i can't prove he built it, but the texts from the shabaka stone seem to suggest he used the portal there. ....called the portal of the lords of eternity.

i had theorized that the portal he used there was an abzu he brought with him from nibru. he had dug it up and brought via ship of some kind (not sure if it was water going or air going), primarily because he had failed at keeping the babel gate open. he was going to open the other one he knew was at nibru and would sneak it out of the area, cart it off to egypt and secretly employ it in the underground abzu chamber he built there, that came to be known as the osirieon.

he was found out and the thing was buried, just as the babel gate had been. (note: babel gate is not the big abzu known as the bottomless pit in revelation. that one was on the floor of the persian gulf ..theoretically, anyway, and is now buried under the euphrates).

anyway, so here we have a portal of the lords of eternity in the osirieon. where'd it go? pharaoh SETI I, while excavating for his own temple at abydos, found the osirieon where it laid buried in the sand. he had his own temple built on the same axis and connected the 2 buildings by a long tunnel. my theory is that he didn't understand what he found there but had enough data to write the BOOK OF GATES from it, which he had engraved into his alabaster sarcophagus.

if the gate was there when SETI I found it, what did he do with it? only 3 obvious possibilities exist:
1) he had it buried with him in his tomb in the valley of kings
2) he left it there and someone else found it later.
3) he had someone else take it and put it in a safe place following his death, possibly even the next pharaoh in succession.

if the gate wasn't there when SETI I found the Osirieon, then there must've been data there that inspired his BOOK OF GATES.
and it would mean someone else found it or moved it prior to SETI I.

THAT leads back to the possibility that Isis/Inana/Ishtar, conspired with set and the council of the "gods" to move or bury the abzu chamber so no one would find it for a very long time.

as a side note: i had also theorized that the osirieon abzu chamber may have had a pyramid above it and it was this structure that was taken apart and used to build the obelisks all over egypt, commerating the death of osiris. the story says that isis was the one that had the obelisks built and if you follow the story of the dismemberment of osiris, she constructed him an artificial phallus after he died, which is represented by the obelisks. that seems to indicate her involvement at some level, with the death of osiris, but it may just be the heavy symbollism.

anyway, i studied the many references to isis and recall it seemed to lead to what is today known as cairo. i can't remember my research trail however. it's blanked out of my head, however, i do recall it being very flimsy, hardly nothing to support it.



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