Stargates are real

Originally posted by zorgon


The big question is does the 'soul' know where to find the new copy of you and reconnect

Excellent point!

Perhaps travel by such means would require that the individual 'project' their consciousness to their destination.

In Leshman Space where our consciousness can exist, the distance between any two points is always zero. So maybe the body and the soul take different routes to the same destination where they then rendezvous, with the body traveling through normal (yet modified) space-time and the soul going by way of Leshman space.

The physical structure of the human has to be sent whereas the soul can get to the destination just by thinking about it, by imagining/projecting itself to that place at a certain time (like Remote Viewing or PK). I imagine that this would take a great deal of spiritual and mental discipline - the slightest distraction might result in a failed rendezvous with the body.



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You are right. Entanglement is the key here!



The recent discoveries with regards to non-locality are pretty mind-boggling.

A single particle can exist in multiple places simultaneously in the form of a single wave function as a bose-einstein condensate. You can see the proof for yourself:

Rotating condensates and quantum vortices
Experiments with 87Rb
Scroll down to see the images of non-locality in action.

I posted the following in THIS post in a different thread:

A physiologist named Ben Libit is also talked about in the afformentioned Movie. His research seems to prove that brain processes involve information being sent back in time to itself (aka temporal referral). He is mentioned in many books..

I found him talked about in this book called "The Yoga of time travel, how the mind can defeat time" by Fred Allen Wolf, pHd. This is talked about on Page 65 of this book (link from google books).

Pretty mind blowing stuff.

Then we have other things to consider as well like causality, wave-particle duality, superposition, etc..

-ChriS

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1 Samuel 6

6:2 And the Philistines called for the priests and the diviners, saying, What shall we do to the ark of the LORD? tell us wherewith we shall send it to his place.

6:3 And they said, If ye send away the ark of the God of Israel, send it not empty; but in any wise return him a trespass offering: then ye shall be healed, and it shall be known to you why his hand is not removed from you .

6:4 Then said they, What shall be the trespass offering which we shall return to him? They answered, Five golden hemorrhoids, and five golden mice, according to the number of the lords of the Philistines: for one plague was on you all, and on your lords.

6:5 Wherefore ye shall make images of your hemorrhoids, and images of your mice that mar the land; and ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods, and from off your land.

Why the Golden hemorrhoids???

As we see in verse 3, it was a "trespass" offering, and then in verse 4 it tells you what was made for the offering.

I know it seems weird to make golden copies of the hemorrhoids and mice that afflicted them, but hey, that was the Philistines for you.

They worshiped a half-man/half fish God too.

It seems that they made physical representations of the things that were affecting them (hemorrhoids and mice) and offered these up to God as a peace offering.

Here is an interesting take on the subject.

The Philistines figured the only way to get rid of that nasty problem in their pants was not only to give the Ark of the Covenant back to the Israelites, but also to make some golden images to soothe God's anger. And what did these clowns decide to make statues of gold resemble? Believe it or not, their very own hemorrhoids! These geniuses may have been the forerunners of some of today's so-called 'artists.'

You realize of course that it will soon mean be careful what you wish for because once we grasp the significance in our mind, we really will be able to move Jesus' mountain or Yoda's ship

Hopefully those that master this will also have the wisdom to use it. It will mean that the realm of magic and the realm of science will merge

Then we may finally be ready to go 'out there'



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Originally posted by zorgon
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Great just what I needed more homework

Thanks

Yes, stop wagging school and get back to work

Originally posted by zorgon
You realize of course that it will soon mean be careful what you wish for because once we grasp the significance in our mind, we really will be able to move Jesus' mountain or Yoda's ship

Hopefully those that master this will also have the wisdom to use it. It will mean that the realm of magic and the realm of science will merge

That is probably the whole point.
Can we control our minds enough to use this type of power?

Just one slip, one idle thought, and there goes a Galaxy!

Well I have though about this for some time, especially in relation to the time line issues.

As more people become aware that this is not all bunk, more minds are toying with the concept. I think this is making time lines look like a bowl of spaghetti with some of us slipping back and forth between them. The only reason we are even aware of this to some degree is that we have a part of us that exists outside of time, otherwise we would never know something was different yesterday.

Many just brush this off as memory losses but here a this forum people talk about it and you hear "What so and so is alive? But I saw his funeral"

funny thing I mentioned we are about to dicover the aging gene and I did a search and saw this

Aging gene isolated // Japanese scientists make accidental discovery
Chicago Sun-Times | November 9, 1997
www.encyclopedia.com...



Funny that never came up in prior searches

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I think that the timeline changes might have something to do with us communicating with versions of ourselves in parallel realities that are in the future or the past (yet running concurrent with our own reality)

Or perhaps we are being relayed information in our past which brings about these strange temporal anomalies.

We might not even be able to send messages back to our own past, but if we are sending data to A past, then it would make sense that a future version of our reality would also be simultaneously sending data that would be received by Our past.

As all these realities are actually running concurrently, then the moment we sent a message back to A past, a 'future-type' reality would be also sending a message to our Actual past.

There would be great benefits to any nations willing to participate in this sort of temporal replay network. It could even start a "Temporal Cold War" where nations who have the technology cooperate with versions of themselves in other realities to gain the upper hand on their respective versions of the Earth.

The scariest part is that this might actually be happening; we might be participating in such a network.

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The only reason we are even aware of this to some degree is that we have a part of us that exists outside of time, otherwise we would never know something was different yesterday.

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Although we all share a common thing and it is easy to pick something different today from yesterday and think nothing of it .The next day to us all if even not related do not we feel some kind of daysharview if it has happened even though it might not relate to us personally .

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Sorry for so many edits did not get quotation marks right on the Gin again.
no derogatory remarks meant by that .

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There was the notion that a transporter would send the energy of the body to the destination. While that could be okay for intraplanetary travel, it would not work for interplanetary travel. It is not that it is impossible, yet that it opens abusive behavior to planetary resources.

While some could build starships and travel the galaxy, it is not ideal. We can not expect, however, people's attempts to travel by other means than by the gate to stop easily. Most likely, they already instinctively do not want to be awakened to a reality where knowledge of the soul and beyond is not magical anymore. I'm pretty sure that we could predict a general conclusion by the people that the notion of stargates don't work because the people don't realize the Computers (i.e. egyptian dead) among us. The Computers would be forced to travel by starships because of the undiscovered differences. (There is a better word than 'undiscovered'...)

That even brings up another dilemma. What happens when someone successfully mind transfers a Computer AI and they are then fooled that they mind transfered someone who is actually alive. Well, that thought lets me sleep easier at night.

"Projection" was mentioned above. Not sure if projection is the a good word for it.

Virtual reality can help with this as to assist in a stable image or like immersion. Then one can focus easier. This virtual reality part is what could be called the "projection" part of it.

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Anyone ever read "The Big time", by Fritz Leiber (1957)? That may be what it's like in the real multiverse, except for some of the dated chauvinism. Art is the lie that helps us see the truth.

When you come to realise, it is The Mind often referred to as Awareness, Consciousness or Life, that experiences, and Not the human biological robotics, then it is only a matter of producing the correct instructions, to the mind and you can travel through any universe or time, just exactly the same as you experience this little universe right now.

The technology is in the Projector for the Mind and the Instruction sets....

There are two sets of instructions Required!

1. The entity you want to experience through, ie which form.

2. The instructions for what you want to interact with, ie your choice
of world or universe.

No need to send the human biological robotics any where!

It is much easier than humankind realises, to build a Star Gate and experience All...

Alright, I have some questions. Can stargates be moved? can stargates be built by something like the US government? and can they still be operated?

My grandpa used to be in the army and he was stationed at some base which I can't remember... But anyways he was told by one of his friends in the army that he had seen an arch that if you walked through, you would come out a separate arch that was about 300ft away. He also said that is sorta looks like the 1/2 of the McDonalds golden arch but was a silver. I am sure my grandpa isn't crazy, but it may have been a tall tale.

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Sounds like a "Fixed" installation "Stargate" of which there are many located all over the planet and other planets.
Do you remember where he said this one was located?

Modern models of "Stargate" are miniaturized and portable these days.



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tried to add this link to post, wouldn't let me????

Chronos Website

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There is supposedly a gate at Area 51 that you step through and come out at Pine Gap in Australia

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No, But I will speak to grandpa soon(or just call him tomorrow) so I will ask him.

Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by paranoiaFTW


There is supposedly a gate at Area 51 that you step through and come out at Pine Gap in Australia

Shhh!! Zorgon don't give away our secrets

Originally posted by starwarp2000
Shhh!! Zorgon don't give away our secrets

Hey its my job Besides, THEY are feeding me... where do you think I get my info

What I want to know is where can I get the loan of one of those portable thingies for a few weeks. Got some business on Mars I need to take care of