Stargates are real

reply to post by Teratoma


Le mew, le sigh, le subtle insults.
Man you sure can load 'em up and sling 'em in there with a load of sugar. I am a sugar addict (diabetes mellitus) so this is both a good thing and a bad thing. I like to read your responses but they're always covered in little pickery things. Ouch eek, yikes, well, now that we're passed that outer layer.. .

Ever wonder to yourself... "maybe i should put eggs in all the baskets, thataway, whoever turns out to be right, i'm sure to be correct as well!" that thought ever crossed your mind?

anyway, yeah, seems like there's an interesting dichotomy built-in with Enki. Well if we take a step farther into space cadet land, we also have the possibility that the goa'uld concept is not really that far from reality, and when the "Serpent in the Garden" lost his legs, he literally is one of those goa'uld larval worm thingies...whatever they are, and he literally inhabits
the bodies of hosts, who are either clones he's selected or some equivalent (as indicated in the gilgamesh/enkidu/nimrod/enmerkar stories).

ever read that scripture about the king of tyre? ezekiel marches in there and reads the guy the riot act but his entire speech is directed to the serpent in the garden, you can tell by what he says. as if the guy standing there (the king of tyre) isn't really the king of tyre in the sense of being his own unique person but is rather a host body for the serpent. it's pretty darn interesting.

zeitgeist is full of horse puckey

for example, in egyptian sun and son aren't spelled anything alike.
son is spelled "Sa" and sun is spelled "Itn" and the glyphs for them are totally different as well. and THAT's just for starters!

[edit on 12-6-2008 by undo]

Yeh i belive you man.
I was reading the thread.

And googled some stuff, came up with this on a peruvian stargate.

mmmgroup.altervista.org...
www.soulcounseling.com...

Maybe this is the door out.

Originally posted by undo

Le mew, le sigh, le subtle insults.

Man you sure can load 'em up and sling 'em in there with a load of sugar. I am a sugar addict (diabetes mellitus) so this is both a good thing and a bad thing. I like to read your responses but they're always covered in little pickery things. Ouch eek, yikes, well, now that we're passed that outer layer.. .

As long as you realize that I paint myself with the same brush - and that just under that pickery outer layer, it's all sticky, gooey space cadet love - we should get along just fine. That cynical, satirical form of humor has always been my favorite, and it just means I like ya. I'm sure you'll recall how mean I was to the geek who came here for the purpose of stroking his ego by making fun of us geeks who 'think the show is real'. He never came back.

My current theory about stargates in popular culture (particularly the Stargate shows): Someone, somewhere, with very powerful friends, seems to want to "pass along" (read: "revitalize", "repackage", "retell") the oldest stories on record, the Sumerian/Annunaki stories. Or at least elements of them. That's all I'll commit to, and there is certainly evidence of this, if you follow the money trails. Now why they want to show us this stuff, I can only speculate about. From a CT or debunker's point of view, the introduction of the concept of stargates/wormholes/teleportation could be a convenient solution to the argument of "even traveling at the speed of light, it would take far too long for even an advanced race to travel from their galaxy to blah blah blah..."

Those that believe that 'disclosure' is merely a set-up for a false-flag alien "attack" think that these movies and video games are all about conditioning us to accept it as believable when they tell us how "aliens" are getting ready to attack. This is a possibility, I think.

I think the "aliens" are behind the false-flag alien attack. It was their idea.

...Your take on the Gou'ald is interesting to me. As I recall, one of the first "host" races for them was reptilian? This parallels not only the Biblical and Sumerian texts (as well as countless others), but also my pet theory about the "meat-bag materializer".

I'll re-iterate: the Annunaki have lost access to the technology that enabled them to materialize (clone?) physical bodies in our earthly realm, making it difficult for them to carry out their agenda. They have some plan that involves getting physical work done in this plane of existence. They can "possess" human bodies, but this presumedly takes a lot of energy. They can move stuff around, like a poltergeist or incubus/succubus, but again, that probably takes too much energy. BUT... Cleverly combining their resources in the above ways, they may have been able to gradually set up a means of farming/manufacturing empty bodies to "possess", using genetic material they found here.

It is my theory that these empty shells are the "grays", EBE drones, possibly mutated versions of kidnapped human fetuses, and that the 4 ft tall, big-headed humanoid shape is the "perfect vessel" for holding the inter-dimensional entity's consciousness. The large head would allow for advanced development of the brain, enabling ESP/telekinetic abilities. The bodies are developed to a height and maturity so that the hands are useful for operating machinery and performing tasks. The legs are just long and strong enough to run away quickly, yet the whole body is kept small and thin, which would take less energy to move, whether by telekinesis, teleportation or just plain walking around.

I think they can clone/manufacture/breed fully developed humans (men in black?) or genetically engineer human-dna-based monsters (bigfoot?) for whatever purpose. I dunno. The MIB (and the grays for that matter) are said to move awkwardly. Is that because the consciousnesses controlling them are doing so unnaturally?

So back to the serpent folk. At the very beginning of the meatbag farming operation, a reptile of some kind could've made the ideal candidate for putting the agenda into motion. Perhaps the "reptile brain" could hold Enki's consciousness and act as a telepathic transmitter better than any other animal's. Or maybe it was merely a disguise, and he needed a scapegoat. Perhaps the "forbidden knowledge" the "Serpent" shared with "Eve" contained hidden trickery which might give him certain advantages down the road. Example: "Hey Eve, wanna know how to astral project?" ...Then waits 'til she's traveling the cosmos to take over her body and start a fight with Adam. Hilarity ensues.







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[edit on 6/12/2008 by Teratoma]

reply to post by undo
Hey Undo, read the last couple of pages of your thread, The carving is just one i got from a site for Sumer Art. I was looking for a good photo of the brick Babylon Lion for my thread on "attacked out of time" Have you ever considered that your Star Gates are actually time gates too? I have posted a synchronous match 2600 years apart for that brick lion and a living cougar in present day Wisconsin. I will be back to read more of your thread when time allows.

reply to post by Teratoma


that's an interesting theory! the whole "aliens will be used as an excuse" angle to weaponize space is a bit worrisome, primarily because i don't know what to make of von braun, who was the one that originated that idea.

but your other idea about greys using fetuses, now that's a new concept i hadn't thought of before. if true, that would explain alot of past history, especially as it relates to abortions and child sacrifice. there have been times in history where entire countries were almost completely devoid of females - they'd been killed as soon as they were born or the laws had been made so unfriendly to females, that the chances of them surviving were on the order of the miraculous. it's still like that today in some parts of the world.

as far as the stargate tv show is concerned, i think you might find this relevant: almost all the clues that the show's messages lead back to sumer, have been avoided in the show. it's all from the egyptian angle. since there are groups out there who feel the egyptian culture is the oldest culture on the planet, this egyptian concept fits right in with that belief. it wasn't until i started finding data from other places that i discovered the trail to sumer.



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reply to post by debris765nju


yep yep yep! i found that little trail as well in the god who is depicted with 2 faces, one looking back in time and one looking forward. suddenly the image of daniel standing in the event horizon of the gate, came to mind. i booted up a youtube video of it and realized that the gate itself is the same way. then it dawned on me that the movie depicts them going to Abydos (which turns out to be the name of the planet they first gate to in the movie but they don't name it officially till the tv show), which is a real ancient city in Egypt, in fact it's the place where Osiris (Nimrod/Enmerkar/Narmer/Asar) founds the Egyptian Dynastic order.

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Undo- would you be so kind, if it is allowed of course, to u2u me the links to your books? I tried to u2u but apparently I have to have 20 posts before I can speak privately to someone.

I love what you have to say in the forum and would love to read more.

Thanks!

Alora

reply to post by Alora


sure, but the thread is now over a hundred pages long and another poster ferreted out the links by page 10, so now i'm allowed to link them

the anunnaki and the abyss
www.thestargates.com...
nibiru and wormwood
www.thestargates.com...

and a partially finished book
The Star*Gates of Sumer
www.thestargates.com...

reply to post by undo


Well, it doesn't have to be about a false-flag alien attack, it could be part of a gradual 'disclosure' program, or as VISITING and many others have suggested, a "hide it in plain site".

And I suppose you are right about the shows mythos being based on Egyptology rather than Sumeria. I've just always thought of it as being loosely based on Sitchin, but I guess it's only after reading so much material of yours and the like that I think of all the ancient cultures "mythological" characters as being interchangeable. I'm probably giving Sitchin more credit than he deserves though.

My "Meatbag Materializer" theory; the kidnapped fetuses, incubus/succubus... It all just makes so much sense. The parable about god somehow forbidding the angels to materialize seems important somehow. I've said it before, this sounds like technology; a machine that they were no longer given access to. If this machine was merely a stargate, that suggests that the "angels" have a physical form in their realm. I'll go so far as to say that it also suggests that their realm is a physical one. Why? If a "physical" humanoid body "materializes" in our realm, the physical material to make it up has to come from somewhere, right? The gates merely 'transmit', they don't 'manufacture' matter, do they?

SO, I guess what I'm suggesting is also a common theme of the show, that these "extra-dimensional" entities may just be boring old three-dimensional ones like you and me, who happen to have mastered quantum physics, time-travel and inter-dimensional passage. They really could just be humans from the future, experimenting with their past (our present).

Picture, in your mind, if you will, a pointy-hatted medieval wizard, going about his wizardly business, when he's suddenly confronted by something that only magic can save him from! He holds his hands out in front of him and wiggles his fingers in a wizardly fashion and the villain is dispatched. Maybe the wizard vanishes into thin air after that.

Now, hit rewind and go back to the part where he holds his hands out in front of him. Picture a translucent, cgi standard 101-key keyboard and heads-up-display popping into view right in front of our alchemist friend, his wiggling fingers actually typing out tweaks in the program to give himself amazing powers. Just something to think about.

reply to post by Teratoma


side note: is that the imperial symbol? *eyes it suspiciously*

well here's some thoughts on the topic:

i don't think the angels are human. i think they can appear human, however.
i believe heaven is the sky, the stars and a place both in this dimension and out of this dimension. i believe the fallen do use technology to mimic acts of god. if our alleged alchemist is using this form of "magic," then yeah, i could see that happening.

i don't think its entirely technology based though. there are just as many, if not more, reports of miraculous events without the aide of tech, personally witnessed by people of all walks of life and social strata, just like with the abduction phenomena. i can no more write that off than i can write off the abduction phenomenon.

reply to post by undo


Ok, maybe not "human", but considerably less "divine"? Maybe tremendously farther along on the "universal journey", but carbon-based just the same? Or perhaps not at all "carbon-based", and we are the same "luminous beings" as them, and merely lack the means of hanging on to any kind of quality existence without the help of these meatbags we're in?

Side note: Yes, I call that symbol "The All-Sithing-Eye", but don't worry , I'm not aligning myself with the Sith, just Star Wars in general. I'm also a fan of the notion that the Star Wars mythos is a brilliant retelling of the ancient epics, and that it has an eerie connection to current world events. Just how eerie, I can't say. I will divulge, however, that I lean in the whimsical direction of thinking that sci-fi writers, inventors; mothers of invention and innovation - have something going on that has not been accurately explained by mainstream science. That's all I'll commit to.

reply to post by Teratoma


didn't lucas model palpatine after a few famous madmen in history, like hitler and one of the roman emperors? i do believe i read he used joseph campbell's template for the hero epic concept. but campbell's template assumes all of ancient history is just a drama, modelled after an ideal that doesn't and never has existed. that's not only boring, it sounds totally wrong to me.



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reply to post by undo


Yes, and he's also fond of his disclaimer of having written the story during the Nixon administration. I suppose it could just be a coincidence but when you consider the Skull & Bones/Bohemia Club allegations, it seems to suggest the current administration.

I think the ideal you speak of has always existed, without it, world leaders would not be able to manipulate the masses into supporting their various political dramas throughout history. The elite warpigs are far removed from those ideals themselves, but by using propaganda, lies and false flag attacks on their own soil, they can exploit the sensibilities of good people, garnering support for war after nefarious war.

I must say This thread is quite amazing, I have thoughts similar, and now it's making more sense, thanks to you guys.

Originally posted by Dutch_Rick
So, were there only Stargates in Sumer (Iraq) or were there others too..

Egyptian Pyramids suggest some alien presence too...


by the way did you know there is a movie in the making about the annunaki and enki en enlil etc etc?
Very great, ive seen a trailer... fantastic special effects and it follows the story as we know it...

i know its offtopic but its gonna be a great movie if your into the annunaki and enki and enlil story.

www.1anunnaki.com...

I suggest you read Christopher Dunn and Joseph P. Farrell books on Giza.

I can answer several of your questions. The first photo was taken by a motorist in Australia several years ago, it is a clip from a cell phone video of this "constructed" alien apparently stepping out of thin air. It is not the case, the entities have no physical form but they generate a substance very comparable to "liquid bandage" except stronger, that gives them a "physical" presence so they can move things. Check out the yellow, green and purple entities beside the humanoid structure. The second picture is to show you that beings of light really exist, i can personally vouch for this photo, i took it. Hope this helps to clarify a few things, i kinda keep track of these things.

reply to post by Teratoma


yeah, i think it was providence that he saw the situation unfolding at the same time as he was investigating similar examples in the ancient past, for fleshing out his characters. Ever see that image of Vader's breastplate in a New Hope? It has writing on it in hebrew that says something to the effect of he will not be forgiven for his sins till he repents of them and makes amends. It's the hero's journey but no one realizes that till RotJ.

reply to post by undo


That's amazing! I never knew about that. There's a hi-res picture of it here. Pretty strange that it's in Hebrew, but I guess that makes it look more "spacey". We're already trying to read too much into it. Or are we? I don't have to point out the more obvious similarities between Anakin Skywalker and Jesus, but does the 'Age of The Empire' represent all of the deplorable things done in the name of "the lord", while under a hidden, evil influence?

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reply to post by debris765nju


These are interesting photos. However, I believe these 'stargates' are capable of teleporting forms to re-materialize, not only as light, but as physical 'meatbags'.