How far are you prepared to go to stop the NWO?

APeaceParty,

Have you ever considered becoming a Libertarian instead?

Watch this 10-min introduction to Libertarianism, it will blow your mind

I have recently found out myself I am a Libertarian, I never heard of them up until a month ago.

I´m a Member now!



[edit on 23-4-2006 by HardToGet]

wow!
Thats a really great theory/belief. It seems a lot more fair than most current systems where governments can

use force to take life=murder
use force to take liberty=enslavement(look at army wages and you'll see what I mean by this, and the contract signed)
use force to take property=theft

Alright, I'm just gonna say this because it's really irritating me.

Anarchy = the WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO as far as maintaining order throughout a large population. If you want to live in a small village, or a secluded community perhaps, MAYBE, but all anarchy means is that people are free to let their worst facets of human nature run rampant. People need structure, laws, codes of ethics, and everything a gov't supplies, but there are so many ways of doing that, that no one can agree on which way is the best. The TRUTH about gov't in the world today is that there is no true gov't, no "all encompassing body of power" that can successfully dictate or govern any country perfectly, let alone the whole world at all. People are different, have different heritages, cultures, religions and social behaviors that cannot mix well with other cultures. There's no getting around that except for a very VERY slow, gradual blending over time. Which will happen anyway due to increased and readily available methods of global communication, but we don't need the help of a seclusive organization who support no beliefs other than their own.

BTW, capitalism works fine, it just needs some aspects of socialism to balance the power over trade between big business and the gov't. Of course, ANY gov't won't work if it's corrupt.

More pertaining to the thread, I have been reading around, and I've come to the realization that a massive counter-offensive could be performed, and it would be much like a cout-de-etat (not sure if I spelled that right) that was mentioned earlier. Other revolutions (american, french, spanish) have all been through the course of citizen rebellion on a massive scale. However, in order to unite people and act nationally as a unit, we would need national, indecipherable communication in order to act together. This has recently become plausible to me.

I personally don't believe in resigning to a NWO. It may be an inevitability, but I for one am not going to sit and watch my liberties wrenched from me without a word.

Nimo knows the unfortunate reality of what we face. Whatever the supernatural cause people think may be guiding them into doom, what is happening is rational and tangible. I do not believe that it matters if you are of the sort that aliens are controlling the government as puppets and are preparing to enslave us all, or it is the work of Satan, or are like me and believe it is men who have tasted absolute power and now wish to bathe in it. It is not behind the cause of our world that we unify, it is rather in the unification against an enemy so sinister that it seeks to disarm us in our beds, at our TV sets, in our schools.

We must be organized peacefully for now. Remain in communication, work together loosely, without seeming affiliation. A doctrine of compartmentalization would work nicely here so that, in the event our worse fears come true, the head of our snake cannot be removed. And we must always be prepared.

Currently this movement wants to pick a day in which "everything" is revealed to the media. Well, if you go through the boards here alone in the past month, that is hours worth of data and information that will be meaningless to a global population. Especially as, reading along, I reiterate that a lot of this seems to be focused on the cause of our problems: government conspiracy, aliens, the Bible, and a host of other weird crap that, honestly, would alienate me from any sort of movement attempting to galvanize change.

So let's attempt to toss the little pebbles that start the avalanche in a sensical way. If it is your aim to reveal to the world information about what the government and world is doing, do it in a way that is pertinent to them. Don't tell them aliens are taking away their rights. Don't tell them Satan is in our midst. Don't tell them Judgement day is coming. Tell them their rights are being taken away more and more every day, and in what way, and what we, the people, can do to stop it. Create a compelling enough argument. Paint a picture that shows how we are slowly being pacified into an Orwellian society.

It's not to say that you will have a 100%, 90%, 75%, or even a 50% response rate from the viewers. However, if even a strong minority of those who see and interpret such information, and put the facts and connections together, follow this belief, such a movement has grown much more powerful. Even if for every 10 sheep, there's only 1 shepherd, that shepherd will act in stead of those who cannot, and lead the flocks that trust him.

That minority suddenly becomes a lot more powerful, as people are fighting for ideals about their present, and the effect events have on him, not the cause of those events, and preventing even more effects that slip us further down the slope. We have suddenly created a strong army of supporters, indirectly, that will make any oppressor nervous - it is a little scary to rise up against a large group you -know- will oppose you.

But let's say that oppression does occur, in the picture that Nimo has painted. Instead of scaring the masses with conspiracy theory and its ilk, there will be even more ready to stand up against what they believe in, because others have shown them. Especially if those who do, during movements, start to directly associate with the members of the group. Any resistance movement would become immediately stronger through what I have proposed.

So let's not try to 'reveal' anything to the world. Let's not try to show them that they're being abducted, that they're being controlled by reptiles from some distant planet that they can only see in an alternate dimension. Let's not tell them that people are being experimented on in Dulce Base. Let's especially not tell them that you know you're right and they're wrong.

Let's show them what they see already, but don't interpret. Show them how they have been the victims of a tyranny slowly putting the pieces into place, and show them that there IS a way to thwarting tyranny, and champions to aid them.

[edit on 25-4-2006 by Nolkyan]

Originally posted by nimo
More pertaining to the thread, I have been reading around, and I've come to the realization that a massive counter-offensive could be performed, and it would be much like a cout-de-etat (not sure if I spelled that right)

Coup d´Etat is too risky without some serious financial backing. Still it may come to that, but preferably I´d like to see a non-violent solution if at all possible.

Originally posted by Nolkyan
Let's show them what they see already, but don't interpret. Show them how they have been the victims of a tyranny slowly putting the pieces into place, and show them that there IS a way to thwarting tyranny, and champions to aid them

Well spoken. Naturally Aliens, Abductions and Deep underground bases need to be missing from the Manifesto (see previous posts). I still believe the media holds the key to bring this house of cards down. All it needs is a group of people who trust each other (tough) and the will to do it.

I guess generally speaking this is what Phil Schneider was doing before he died. So I´ll best make sure that I will not become another Schneider by being just an ranting individual and ending up the same. No way. Coordination, action plan, execution.

And what if there is no such thing as a NWO? At least we would have had our fifteen minutes of fame, unfortunatly followed by fifteen years of hard time in a federal prison. In any case everyone who mentioned that this board is not the place to devise and publicise these plans is more than correct, what is most likely needed for starters is a new policical party or foundation with a legitimate front and, as much as I hate to say it, a militia branch which can carry out covert operations and infiltrations.

Is this too far fetched? I think not. Although it´s very easy to make such a statement from the relative safety of being anonymous behind a keyboard somewhere; being out there promoting in the real word is a whole different ball game.

To close, Libertarianism does not equal anarchy by any means, check ISIL carefully, only minimalisation of government influence is called for, not abolishment thereof. There are several U.S. Senators in office right now who are confessed Libertarians, which has nothing to do with Liberalism I might add.

It´s a start.

HardToGet, if you would please U2U me, I think we could speak quite well in private communications, and switch over to something anonymous and encrypted. Others who are interested in this movement, too, and start working out logistics from all angles.

Remember, it does not take a NWO to take our freedoms away. Any police state, any common tyrant will do it. A tyrant and a criminal have much in common, they are not complex men.

[edit on 28-4-2006 by Nolkyan]

When I come up with a way to stop the NWO, I will gladly go as far as I can to follow through with that plan. Up until this point, I have seen no "great" or "outstanding" or "reliable" ideas of plans put up; or at least none that I believe would work. As previous posters have said, speaking publically is suicide, no one will believe you. The people in charge simply have too much power over individuals and what they think in today's world. Fighting the NWO is beginning to seem more to me like fighting an idea, a way of though; something that is going to prove even more challening than I initially imagined.

-Omniscient

Originally posted by Nolkyan
HardToGet, if you would please U2U me, I think we could speak quite well in private communications, and switch over to something anonymous and encrypted.

Done.

Originally posted by Omniscient
Up until this point, I have seen no "great" or "outstanding" or "reliable" ideas of plans put up; or at least none that I believe would work.

Well, it is a public board. I have reconsidered planning in public. If you wish to discuss plans in a more secure manner that can be arranged.

How irritating. I apparently have to make 20 comments on hreads before I can send a U2U. Let me get my count up, and then I'll reply to you, HardToGet.

Why dont we at least get started on gathering information to make a plan with.

For a long time I did not believe in the entire NWO stories that I had heard rumors about. While living in Los Alamos, NM I began to not just hear but see certian events that realy bothered me. I have been researching the many locations of possible labor or death camps being constructed in America. I truly believe that this is all true and entwined together (the camps, LANL, Fema, NWO).

I am so disturbed by this! What can we do to protect ourselves and fight against the New World Order? Is anyone out there even taking action? It burdens my heart to think of these things but I don't want another holocaust. If we all stand together...fight together, at least we give ourselves a chance.

Something that might help to spread the word to thousands of people and educate them of the wrongs in todays world and what is happening to our freedoms and rights.......even though it is used by a lot of "emo" teens and the such, there are thousands of people, musicians, celebrities, radio dj's etc.... that use myspace.com.....now if someone had the time to do it.....to create an account that is dedicated to these topics and only these topics and then start spreading it around to as many users as possible. Not only would it open the eyes of todays young teens and youth but could also possibly catch the eye of a radio dj who might then spread the word onto the air.....or to some musician who might just decide to talk about it at a concert, etc..... The possibilities are endless. I would attempt it and see what kind of effect it would have, but being in the Navy, I have very little time. But if someone thinks that this might help and you have the time to work on something like this, I ask you if you would please give it a shot....I will try to help with as much as I can, but like I said, my time is very limited right now.

Sweeet an ATS myspace. Good Idea, That would probably open a lot of eyes to what is really going on behind our backs. I'm one of the few teens that doesn't have one and when I say few the rest are about 2 people! shall I create the myspace. How long has ATS been around so that I can put the age.

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The illuminati is everywhere. Some researchers believe that the "families" are roughly one percent of the demographic.

How do you organize a resistance where 99 percent of the demographic believes you are a wacko?

Additionally, how do you organize a resistance when "They" are watching your every move.

"They" are right here on this forum.

Look what happened to Fritz Springmeier and "Svali"....

Nope, I will do my own private preps for me and my family....

Some earlier pages talk of a "Memoir" or "Manifesto" of susspected NWO events right? And getting the word to people on the street...the unenlightened people's?

Simple Plan: 1. Make one (maybe have a standard set of information to be included so everyones is unified when sent), include a FORMAL, CORRECT, Cover letter to be viewed/read FIRST explaining the content of your delivery and brief description of NWO and their potential plans and explain how world money mongers are working together to benefit their fellow businessmen/politicians and keeping citizens DOWN and under their control.

2. Include the rest of your total and most convincing evidence you can put together, whether it be videos on a disk or series of events all linking together, whatever.....deliver these packages ANONYMOUSLY to local even possibly Independent News Centers (who are the only ones who have actual investigative journalist anymore) who dont get their information from "...they said..." mediums