How do people feel about the rioting muslims?

i am not racist but

i for one am fed up of them running round at drop of a hat like mad animals shouting death to this an that, burning flags, attacking embassies, FRANCE riots, wow they pretty busy lately trying to impose their way of life in our Country's aren't they?

its making me real sick and unhappy at how we let them in to live in our country's and we get no respect for our laws or way of life which they know to be utterly different from their ways of life yet they still decide to live here in WEST???

WHY live in the west if its so different to your ways?

I'm pretty angry at way this has escalated out of control its pathetic.

can people post their views on this.

Anyone got a record of all the riots Muslim's have done since Say 1900 on-wards up-to this year 2006 around world and reasons for such activity? or is this a recent act of Muslims to riot at drop of a hat ie France, cartoons Denmark.


[edit on 7-2-2006 by blobby]



[edit on 7-2-2006 by intrepid]

It has to be remembered that our news channels have been full of interviews with Muslims who HAVE distanced themselves from the rioting in this country.

The clear signals being sent out to the radicals in the last 24hours serves to remind them there will be punishment for those responsible for incitement on the streets of Britain.

Its not before time that the Government and Police are acting........the pressure from the people of this country have made their voices felt.
We are fed up with the pussyfooting and the radicals being able to hide behind laws passed to actually protect the innocents.


People talk of an uprising..................its gaining pace not for the Muslims of this country.........but rather the majority of law abiding ones.

If law abiding Muslems are getting tarred with the same brush they need to continue to rebuke the offenders.

I feel that their (muslim) reaction to a cartoon shows that they are uncivilized and still living as though it was 1000 BC. Their actions, due to the large involment of individuals, is kinda like an oxymoron.......Islam...the religion of peace so lets go burn some buildings and kill some innocent people to show exactly how 'peaceful' our religion is.

To bad that we can't isolate them and let them live their pathetic exisitance herding goats and camels.

I fear a backlash from normal people soon it seems things are happening hourly rather than daily with riots bombings protests etc.

Originally posted by blobby
i am not racist but

Funny how the racist always start out that way

Rest easy blobby and don't feel you need to apologize. This is not about race. It is about an organized religion. There's a huge difference and you should not feel the need to apologize for questioning their religion and it's practices. People! Stop cowering when they speak. You have every right to question their religion. Religion is a choice. Whoops! My bad. Religion may not be a choice in some countries over there. Still it's not even in the same ballpark as disliking someone's race.

When the whiny babies quit crying and destroying things, they might find that people will actually listen to their demands. Until then.....

By the way there's a really good thread in Slug-Fest right now on this same subject. You might want to step in there and try it out. Trust me, you'll like it.

Irans cartoon revenge makes me sick

[edit on 7-2-2006 by dbates]

name me a christian/western country where islam is illegal ? there are none.

Yet in some muslim countries it is illegal to be any religion other than islam, i think here lies the difference in views between the west and the muslims.

The west is tolerent and even helps the muslims build mosques etc, whereas in some countries a none muslim could be executed/imprisoned for turning from islam to another religion.

Originally posted by dbates
This is not about race. It is about an organized religion.
[edit on 7-2-2006 by dbates]

You hit the nail on the head. Organized religions are the largest cause of creating division between members of our species. We will never get along as humans until we learn to accept others beliefs and not try to impose our religious beliefs on others. However there are quite a few religions that do not adhere to the previous stated way to achieve peace in the world, namely the judeo-christian religions. For example, the Quran is big on classifying people as infidels and how to act towards such people.

It's impossible say how to fix this problem. It probably will never be fixed. Each organized religion has built in defense mechanisms versus it's opposition. The Judeo-Christians will claim you are persecuting them, when all you desire is for them to wake up and realize the impact of their religions on the world.

Anyway, i'm rambling, I don't know how to solve the problem, and more than half of our human civilization doesn't believe it's a problem.

- Attero

[edit on 7-2-2006 by Attero Auctorita]

It's a lot of grown men, without jobs, who are angry for many different reasons and are using this as an excuse to vent those frustrations.

Just like here, you give people good jobs, you find crime and other violence drop big time.

I'd be interested to see the unemployment figures for Arab men in the countries where the biggest of these problems are.

-O

Originally posted by dbates
Rest easy blobby and don't feel you need to apologize. This is not about race. It is about an organized religion.

What's the difference? You're judging a whole group based on the actions of a few.

I caution you all to consider that these raving lunatics who are burning buildings DO NOT represent the whole of Muslims!

Still it's not even in the same ballpark as disliking someone's race.

Keep telling yourself that.

So it's ok to hate an entire religion because of the actions of a few but it's not ok to hate an entire race because of the actions of a few?

How exactly does that work? Oh, never mind. I've seen you justify it by saying that race is not a choice, but religion is. So what?

Two words: Pat Robertson. All Christians who are choosing to be Christians are as loony and hateful as Pat Robertson, then, right?

Hey everyone? How do you feel about Christians in light of Pat Robertson? It's ok to hate Christians, because Pat Robertson is a nut job?

I'm confused. Straighten me out.

Originally posted by Benevolent HereticHey everyone? How do you feel about Christians in light of Pat Robertson? It's ok to hate Christians, because Pat Robertson is a nut job?

I'm confused. Straighten me out.

Let's see...How many embassies have Christians burned today? Any recent decapitations or kidnappings by Christians in the name of Christianity today? Last week? Last month? Maybe we can find a mob of Christians who are shouting "Death to the infidels" because of some cartoon in a paper that they never read, from another continent. I guess no one ever makes fun of Christians. That's why we don't see the outcry that Muslims have demonstrated.


O no, another hole in your theory. Here's a cartoon equating Jesus to a pedophile. Let's see how long it takes for the Christians mobs to start looting, burning, and chanting for death.


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Most Christians will accept ridicule and rejection. You are really going out of your way to prove my point when you compare Christanity to Islam. Islam is a tool of the government in the middle east. A tool for controlling the masses. Christanity isn't even in the same category and you know that. As for Pat Robertson, most Christian leaders think he's sort of loony too. He's a long way from being the leader and you won't have a hard time finding some that will pubically state that to be true. Try finding a well-known Muslim cleric that will dismiss the actions of the recent riots as being out of line. You can find some, but most Muslims just want to keep talking about how wrong the cartoons are, and glaze over their actions.

So, is it ok to judge a group because of the actions of a few or not??

name me a christian/western country where islam is illegal ? there are none.

Yet in some muslim countries it is illegal to be any religion other than islam, i think here lies the difference in views between the west and the muslims.

That's not technically true, I'm pretty sure. You're probably thinking of the Kingdom's disdain for Christianity, but it's not illegal. You can't practice it publically, you can't advertise it, you can't do outreach or charity work, and you definitely can't go door to door trying to convert people like folks do in America. So, the environment is obviously very restrictive, but other religions aren't illegal, they're actually just regulated by local laws.

On topic, the stink of fear is in the air, all around. Everyone's baring their teeth and making noise because they feel threatened by the crush of contradictory worlds. Meanwhile, while this macro-tragedy boils, each individual international player is struggling with real domestic issues, real issues with real consequences. Mostly poverty, rapid (practically tectonic) class separation, civil rights, and education. We choose it for ourselves though.

Nobody ever took your choice away, or mine or anyone else's. But..we make the choices we do based on the information we have available to us. Most people in the world make their decisions based on very little information at all, considering the contrast provided by those who essentially swim in an ocean of it, day in and day out.

Unrest occurs in direct inverse proportion to the education and literacy level of the general population, and I think that goes for just about any social group you care to check. Schools, neighborhoods, playgrounds, countries, and so on. Educated, informed people make better decisions, so if a group of people are making more 'bad' decisions overall, there's a good chance it's because they're comparitively uneducated - or as is the case in some places, counter-educated.

When a religion controls a government, psyops takes on a frightening aspect. Some of what we're seeing stems from that I think.

I guess the short answer would be, I think the rioting muslims are like any other group of rioters. When people are living happy, comfortable, secure lives, they don't run amuk and burn things down. The same things that are wrong there are wrong here. In most cases the things are more wrong there, issues like unemployment and class separation are bad in America, but they're quite a bit worse in the communities where the recent rioting has been taking place.

Two real things:

With fifty dollars and a couple of bicycles you could organize a riot in pretty much any city with enough homeless and/or jobless people. (He says to a rallying cry of remember Ukraine)

We've got a lot more sedatives and drugs in our diet than they do in any of the places where rioting has broken out, that might just have something to do with it. Syrians are warming up to the Colonels chicken though, so it's only a matter of time before they're docile as the birds they're eating. You can't go running about with RPGS, hurling rocks all day, jumping into embassy windows if your cholesterol is through the roof and even eating makes you sweat.





[edit on 7-2-2006 by WyrdeOne]

Islams intolerant. Its says so itself: Convert or kill non-believers. Thats the way its always been, thats the way it always will( Unlees ww 3 turns arabia to a glass sheet) Look at Israel. A nation with a democratic goverment, surrounded by Islamic nations hell bent on its destruction! Why? they want "Their" land back, their palestein, their home land. Well wake up Islam and smell the beans. Israel was a country before your racist nasty homophobic intolerant people even existed. Palestein was Judea and Israel before the romans annexed it and called it palestein.

Another thing, I never saw Buddists going on a rampage when the Islamofacists destroyed the statue of Buddah or any of the temple and cave paintings in Afghanistan.

Many years ago, the Taliban destroyed the Buddha statue in Bamiyan, no such a riot among buddhists, while they were so angry. But they didnt say
the buddhists are gonna revenge.

I know muslim dont like communism, while communism dosent like them either, so the best way is let the communist teach them atheism. or socialism or communism.

Hope them know Chaireman Mao


[edit on 7-2-2006 by superpyz]

You have voted WyrdeOne for the Way Above Top Secret award.

Excellent post! I really don't understand why so many fail to see that it has more to do with the economic climate in the rioting countries than the religion itself.

If people stopped having an action-reaction type response and actually stopped and think for a second, to look beyond the obvious bias, they'd have a better understanding of the situation.

Sadly more and more people on ATS are perpetuating ignorance instead of denying it.

I really am in complete and utter contempt at what these folks are doin right now, rioting over a cartoon. Think if this cartoon was published in a Islamic country, that guy would have no hands right now. Which brings me to the conclusion that this is a simple(well not so simple really) problem of social development, which the West is clearly ahead in. And part of it also has to do with culture shock, they have yet to understandy why our societies rules are not completely based upon religion, and looking at their criminal systems and laws we understand why. The bottom line is we have to get across the message that were not living in their society its the opposite, and dont expect us to cater to your religious needs when living in a Western Nation. If you dont like it, pack your bags and leave. Personally I'm just sick of political correctness and appeasement, it only makes things worse.

In my country, if the religious people dare to protest against the nation. Our government will wipe them out very quietly. And only the peaceful silent religious people can live.

I'm feeling guilty by this way. God bless me (even I'm an atheist)



[edit on 7-2-2006 by superpyz]

Oh man!

How many has died yet?

Is Mohammed dead? im sorry i have no TV - i just have an senseless idea that this could trigger a third world war... If the riot wont settle down, and become civilised like the rest of the human race..

Here in the western hemisphere we have an civilised way of destroying things.. Mostly we talk about it - and do nothing about it.. Cause it looks good on paper..
Sometimes.. We don't even talk about it - we tend to ignore it...

The real question is.. What will happend. When someone start attack Iran over doubt... On the chess board.
Here in the western civilised world we like to put things on a big strategic map... And keep people under job-control - it seems to work well - when we die it's just another number rewritten in the strategic Data-base.

You know it's perfect.
What i worry most about is not if there is gonna blow stuff up - but the fact that our armies, and leaders of staff are rounding troops up around the middle easteren sector of the chess board. And the thing that 9/11 could have been an insider job....By some higher intelligence source.

I think we are heading for a 3 world war... And i can't tell how sad it is... Cause you know what? - Here in the western part of the world - we learn not to care about nothing... But our job and pride.
I would say that it is not just an Western problem - it's a global problem...

No one really cares... It's a chess board and the game of chess have specific rules we must follow...

It's about a chapter in the human history that has still not been written. Exept for the Armagedoon that was written back in time by some unknown bunch of persons... Jesus Muhammed..And so on so fourth.

How do we settle them down..?
We can't!!! We simply can't settle this down with the intelligence we have today - cause we have not experienced it yet. This is out of control.

If we start shooting them - it will trigger another effect...
Should we wait it out like a hurricane? - We can't...Cause they won't stop until they die...
And we can't talk to them - and we won't give away our money and wealth to them - they are to many - they like guns..

This is the beginning of the end. i think - and it's hard to realize for many people... Even the leaders that are not in the know of the big plan..Will find trouble handle this.

It is the result of money and greed.

Have you all forgotten the role of china and Russia? They are ready - atleast the leaders are ready for big time party. It's almost ready for armagedoon.. And you just had a nice day... Yea - We just had a nice life...here - and now it's gonna blow up.

BOOM!!!!

Oh well. We all share children... We all share the slave instinct and our goodwill to believe in goodness...
But we also share our dictators - and we are just heading that way------> ignorant and senseless... We follow orders from TV and media... And we don't like it one bit - but that is the schedule and time plan we are running now... And everything is going according to plan...

We can just hope that some alien race are gonna save us before the big guys are gonna blow this earth-nation wide open - in a blast of light.

Again... I hope you have time to read some conspiracy...Or some information about the act behind the scenes...

Muhahaha

whole group based on the actions of a few.

And by a few you mean millions all over the world? I ask because "a few" doses not acuratly describe the world wide problem we are seeing.

I wonder.... if we weren't in Iraq right now, would this being going on?

I don't mean this in a "pull out of Iraq right now" type of way.

I mean it in a "it's fashionable to be anti-west right now" in the muslim world sort of way.

Any thoughts on that?

Do you think the fervor would be as high right now?

-O