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Originally posted by Produkt
There's no evidence that there's anything smaller then quarks and co. ...
So, ASSUMING there is, then we are at a stalemate.
Both of our theories would hold true.
Your fundamental something's being never changing, always retaining the same something for infinite periods.
My fundamental something's being able to change just as a quark can change from one flavor to the other.
As for what energy is, it's the capacity to do work. Kenetic energy, potential energy and so on. There doesn't exist something called 'energy'. So, in either case the fundamental something's would still need to be considered as particle's. But when you hit the quantum levels particles can have both particle and wave like characterisitics.
In order for "GOOD" To triumph over "EVIL", you must first know what good and evil IS... and I argue that this is not a thing that is possible without first knowing the self completely, because desires for things to be true or false sway a person in such a definition... and any acceptable definition must be free of human desire and fear.
Thusly... nobody has the right to claim knowledge of Good and Evil, nor knowledge of anything in all actuality.
Originally posted by Produkt
Even if one know's HIMSELF does that really bring you any closer to an understanding of anything? No it does not my friend. What you consider as good could be my evil. What I consider as my evil could be your good. It's completly subjective. There is no definable good and evil because there is no such thing as good and evil. You define yours, I define mine. Billion's of other's define their's in vastly differing unique view's of what is good and evil. Even IF everyone "knew" themselve's. The very definition's would all still be vastly different from different point of views.
So can you really claim knowing yourself give's you greater understanding? Nope. Not a chance in hell.
it brings you closer to understanding why you do what you do and being able to change that. the good and evils would be slightly different but not as much as youd like to believe. mainly because good and evil wouldnt be based on religion or anything like that but on what benefits everyone as a whole. yes knowing yourself gives you a better understanding of what your doing and why. once you know that then you can see how much it really benefits you and those around you. whats WORTH doing and what ISNT worth doing, based on how much it benefits everything as a whole.
Originally posted by Produkt
Still not taking into account all the variable's that destroy the whole concept. It's not just greed my friend's. Actually ... you two are showing one of those variable's, as am I.
After reading through many threads in this forum in the last couple of months I have noticed that there seems to be a general tendancy to look on the bleak side of things and see the world and society as a negative evil undesirable place that has passed the point of no return.
sure theres the chance that a better world that people all work together and that people come to a basic understanding of what is better for the race as a whole could be a far distance off, it might not though. looking at it like its a long way off though makes that certian.
anyway yea its good that you have helped people, im glad to hear things like that. but unlike you im going out of my way to help people. instead of helping those when i come across them, i look for them to help them. mainly because that will benefit everyone as a whole in the end. there is still so much wrong here to go about life like people out there arent out there selling drugs because they werent given any other way out. i know all to well so i know that just helping occasionally when its easy for me to do so isnt enough
i guess a reality check would mean to give up on people and say screw it some people are just doomed to being lost.
well i can understand how since you have created a family its harder for you to do stuff. personally i refuse to have kids or have to provide for anyone until things start to change. we already have enough kids that feel like they have been abandoned, no reason to bring more into this world, especially when we cant even take care of the ones we have already made. my family is every person ive reached out to because theres a connection there. i dont need to be blood related to call them family.