God is pro death penalty

Exodus 21:12
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

I dont know how you would interpret this but to me it looks like god is for the death penalty.

Originally posted by daedalas

Exodus 21:12
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

I dont know how you would interpret this but to me it looks like god is for the death penalty.

What do you suggest? Should we be in favour of the death penalty when it is fashionable, but not when it is not? I think that is the position you are in fact advocating - conformity, in other words.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Men wrote the bible.
Men interpreted the meaning of Exodus.

If there is a God, He is silent and you have no idea of what His opinion on the death penalty is.

Originally posted by daedalas

Exodus 21:12
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

I dont know how you would interpret this but to me it looks like god is for the death penalty.

Umm... idk how your reading it but...

He that smiteth man (the executioner for example), so that he die (guy that's being put to death), shall be surely put to death (refering back to the executioner guy who put the other guy to death).

The passage wasn't really that hard to understand and very clear as to it's meaning. So, from what it says you could correctly interpret it to mean god doesn't support the death penalty. If we're going to use that analogy of course.

This is where people get into trouble, assuming what God wants. Millions of innocent people have been killed over these assumptions. I figure that if God wanted somebody dead He wouldn't have to implement humans to do so- if You believe God works that anyhow. Personally, I don't believe this. It's not like He'd (She'd) be in a hurry anyway, He receives us all in due time. What goes around comes around, in this life or the next.

Peace. K*

Originally posted by Produkt
He that smiteth man (the executioner for example), so that he die (guy that's being put to death), shall be surely put to death (refering back to the executioner guy who put the other guy to death).

The passage wasn't really that hard to understand and very clear as to it's meaning. So, from what it says you could correctly interpret it to mean god doesn't support the death penalty. If we're going to use that analogy of course.

The way I see it God does seem to support it. Why not punish this executioner for his deeds? No its death for death. A wrong to justify a wrong. And mind you, God knows this would happen all along the way.

Even if you interpret it as the executioner being condemned for killing someone thats still the same concept of a life for a life. And when i say god is pro death penalty is just a turn of phrase, all I was trying to do was to discredit people who oppose the death penalty purely because of god.

If god wasn't pro death then why create death?

God is pro death penalty because he created the men who support it.

God is pro death penalty because he created the men who support it.

Does that mean God's also pro peadophilia as he created them?

He's obviously pro-death. Look how much death is dealt in his name over the years and present. It's gods middle name (death). Personally I don't believe in a god but there's alot of death with the way people use him. He is what you make of him.

Originally posted by I See You
He's obviously pro-death. Look how much death is dealt in his name over the years and present. It's gods middle name (death). Personally I don't believe in a god but there's alot of death with the way people use him. He is what you make of him.

Good point, what knid of a tyrant creates a world, populates it with a species that he knows to be doomed from the very start, and then sits back and watch them torture one another and go to war with eachother. All the while waiting for the day when we eventually destroy ourselves. Sounds like a evil little kid with too much time on his hands to me.

BTW I see You, I apologize if thats not the way you wanted people to take your post or if thats not what you meant at all. Reading it just caused me to think about that and I didnt just want to pull it out of nowhere so I used your post.

Did I just see a line of posts about biblical accounts that show God was a capital punishment fan?
How did it go this long with no mention of 'turn the other cheek'?
What did that mean? I say it means if at all possible, do not retaliate when you are hurt by another. Instead of answering hate with more hate, set the example, and show forgiveness. That is much braver, and is the only way that the causes which people now feel make them kill may one day be gone. No amount of killing will change the problems cause.
Love alone can stop hate, more hate is never going to.
BTW, I am speaking about this but I know that in some situations, I would not turn the other cheek. Serial killers for example. Kill them. Then after I'll work on my spiritual growth.

Originally posted by Jonna
If god wasn't pro death then why create death?

"God works in mysterious ways."
It works every time

This is just rediculous. If God is meant to be infallable, omnipotent, and omnicient, then he doesn't have the luxury of changing his mined on questions of right and wrong. If it is understood that there is a clear seperation between right and wrong, then god knows it and has always known it. By that reasoning, at some point, around 2010 years ago, God said " Maybe I've been doing this wrong for a while, let me try something new."

you cant be omnicient and change your mind, especially if you're God.

Originally posted by Rasobasi420you cant be omnicient and change your mind, especially if you're God.

Yes by all means he can. He can do pretty much everything he wants, except split oceans and lit talking bushes on fire, but that's yestermillennium anyway.

[edit on 25-1-2006 by Panzeroth]

I would think panzer is right, if there is a God, he can do whatever he wants to regardless of your views on the meaning or reasons for it. Timing is everything, and just like managing a household you have different rules for different situations.
I could never tell God what he could and couldn't do... Well I guess I could but I bet he wouldn't listen.

Hey Mr. Panzer....I wish I could make a valid contribution to this topic.....but I don't believe in god....so I do not know what to say....heh.
I could speak hypothetically....I did attend private all girl catholic schools (that’s all they have for private schools where I am from)

Originally posted by Panzeroth

Originally posted by Rasobasi420you cant be omnicient and change your mind, especially if you're God.

Yes by all means he can. He can do pretty much everything he wants, except split oceans and lit talking bushes on fire, but that's yestermillennium anyway.

[edit on 25-1-2006 by Panzeroth]

That's the problem with believing in omnipotence and omnicience, it's a catch 22. Can God microwave a borrito so hot that even he can't eat it? One way or another he will fail. Same deal with changing his mind. If he knows all, he can't say "sorry bout that, my mistake, this is the way it SHOULD be"