Why is god silent?

Originally posted by Gazrok

Why is god silent?

The same reason that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy haven't spoken in years, I'd imagine...

Sorry, just had to go there....

[edit on 10-1-2006 by Gazrok]

Santa Claus? I saw him just under a month ago. He said plain as day

"Ho, Ho, Ho!"

As for the Easter Bunny, i think it is just shy.

And the tooth fairy?

A fruit cake with a tooth fetish if you ask me, probably with rich parents, too.

Originally posted by pkrska
It states in the Bible, that no man shall have any other gods before me. Or something like that.... Now why do people always talk as if Jesus was their god?

Didn't God punish the Jews for worshiping the cow. That cow symbolism is the same thing as a cross on your neck. Stop worshiping the cross and start praying to the God. (If you do pray!)

the last thing jesus wants to see when he comes back is a cross! it would be like wearing a shotgun around your neck to remember JFK. he dont want to see that! haha!!!! funny!!!

Originally posted by AkashicWanderer

Originally posted by plague
alot of other religions have the virgin birth in there history

Not just a lot, virtually every religion has incorporated the Virgin Birth in some form or another.

A while back I made a thread about Virgin Births among different mythological and religious traditions. Here's a quote from it:

From the Immaculate Conception
Quite obviously the drama of immaculate conception is not the exclusive domain of any one religion or world ideology. Is it coincidence that for 5000 years, virtually every religious and mythological belief structrure, some of which had never come into contact, has in one way or another incorporated the mysterious Immaculate Conception?

It becomes even more astounding when we realize that society, in the main, has been patriarchal and often chauvinistic throughout known human history. It wouldn't seem possible that the makers of religious myths/teachings, which we know must have surely been men, since men have always been the storytellers/shaman/chiefs/priests, would invent some sort of divine providence which excluded human male participation as its main course of operation.

Perhaps God isn't so silent after all?

Inverencial Peace,
Akashic

the virgin birth....since god has technology more advanced than ours, i always thought that the artifically inciminated mary....like we do to women and animals today...man had no concept of that 2000 years ago

Ladies and gentlemen,

The Honorable Reveren Funkydung.



Sorry, I had to.

Originally posted by Funkydung

Originally posted by pkrska
It states in the Bible, that no man shall have any other gods before me. Or something like that.... Now why do people always talk as if Jesus was their god?

Didn't God punish the Jews for worshiping the cow. That cow symbolism is the same thing as a cross on your neck. Stop worshiping the cross and start praying to the God. (If you do pray!)

the last thing jesus wants to see when he comes back is a cross! it would be like wearing a shotgun around your neck to remember JFK. he dont want to see that! haha!!!! funny!!!

Well, was it the cow, or was it the bull you mean they worshipped? Otherwise, we came from bull to aries, from aries to pisces, now to aquarious. Now I guess he punished them for making them clear they had to go on or something. Just a thought. Now we being punished from instead of being fishes swimming in the water, for us becoming the water, ahahaa, like bruce lee preached, become water, my friend

Human Bean~
Are you seriously looking for answers, or are you just trying to see what people say in a hot debate?

THe BIbile is a series of allegories, as you know..I believe your are taking it too literally.

and number 2...your God reception anntenna is out of service..

A few questions.
Why do you need to believe in a creator being like God anyway?
Why cant you just accept things are the way they are?
There doesn't need to be a creator/ higher intelligence so why do we feel the need to create one/many. We are all quite capable in functioning normally without a 'God'.


G

Originally posted by shihulud
A few questions.
Why do you need to believe in a creator being like God anyway?
Why cant you just accept things are the way they are?
There doesn't need to be a creator/ higher intelligence so why do we feel the need to create one/many. We are all quite capable in functioning normally without a 'God'.


G




i dont need to believe nor feel the need to create a god. i personally know that god exsist. i talk to the creator everyday and yes he speaks back. it is your right though to not believe. i cant blame you either its hard to put faith in something you cant see. it took me awhile to find god. i had the same feelings..i cant see or hear or feel god ..so god must not exists. but then i began to read up on some vedic literature and started going to temple with the hare krishnas and started to realise that my motives were all wrong. then when i finally went to god with the right motives and the right reasons i finally felt and heard from god. god gives you his love from day one like a parent but were so far removed and entangled in this world of materialism that we dont feel it. but once you do feel it..youll know it and its awsome. it is the greatest joy you will ever feel. and you feel it more the more you break through the haze of materialism in this world. the road is long and i have made many detours but god always finds away to bring me back.

If I have to make a point of it, you really described that nicely plague.

An overwhelming nice-to-read-post. (just for not ignoring those one-liner posts)

harghargh


AA

Originally posted by plague
i dont need to believe nor feel the need to create a god. i personally know that god exsist. i talk to the creator everyday and yes he speaks back. it is your right though to not believe.

Yes and I dont believe that god exists because I know how religions could have started and quite possibly did and it has nothing to do with supernatural entities. I also know that up until 2700 - 3000 years ago there wasn't really the notion of a montheistic religion, all religions had at least a god and a goddess, early hebrews and judaism included. Religions have to change with the times and if they dont then they are left behind i.e Egyptians, Mayans and Aztecs. What you will notice now is that even modern religions are losing 'sheep' (for a better word). People are no longer willing to believe everything that they are told and even people who say they are Christian or whatever are not really what they say they are. They dont live their lives according to the laws of their religion.

i cant blame you either its hard to put faith in something you cant see. it took me awhile to find god. i had the same feelings..i cant see or hear or feel god ..so god must not exists ...... but once you do feel it..youll know it and its awsome.

Im glad that you find comfort in religion but I'm the total opposite, I find religion to be restrictive and in a way stressful.

it is the greatest joy you will ever feel. and you feel it more the more you break through the haze of materialism in this world. the road is long and i have made many detours but god always finds away to bring me back.

I think not, I've felt joyous on many occasions and none were religously inspired. Are you saying the joy I felt when my children were born is nothing compared to the joy of receiving god?? The joy and awe inspiring feeling of a favourite piece of music in the right frame of mind?? We all see the world around us differently, your perception of god is totally different to another's (of the same denomination as yourself) perception of the same god.


G

Originally posted by plague
WISESHEEP....
alot of other religions have the virgin birth in there history..the only difference is those religions are alot older then christianity.....

Why they most certainly do! They also all lead right straight back to the "horse's mouth" Semiramis of Babylon. She only claimed to be a virgin, but couldn't have been because of the fact that she was both Nimrod's wife AND mother. The fabricated gods of the time were created by her AFTER Nimrod was killed. One of the most popular (even to this day) supposed reincarnation of Nimrod was Baal.

One of those religions you speak of is Roman Catholicism (the universal world religion, might I add). Any fool with a partical of sane mind should see through the phrase "Mary Mother of God". Replace Mary with Semiramis and the classic catholic image of Jesus with Tammuz and there you have it. Mary wasn't God(Jehovah)'s mother but rather his son's, so that clearly rules her out.

Take the time and do the research and you'll see that every single man made god in the history of this earth points right back to Semiramis.

also they didnt go around spreading the word of there message with the tip of a sword or journee to far away lands to teach the natives to be more modern and materialistic and to pray to there one god....

Sure they didn't, because they wanted to 'keep it in the family'. Why would they volunteer their luciferic power of secrecy?

Originally posted by HumanBean
* Why does God not just come down to Earth and say "Hi there, I'm God and here is my plan..."?

He did. He even had it written down so that 2000 years later people can still find out that plan.

If you really want to know the answers to these questions they can be found on other posts on other threads.

Haha, poor fools. God is silent because he's dead, and any other God as well. Those who killed him have been waiting until this special stretch of years to re-enslave us or destroy us and take back this planet. There was obviously some sort of war, with Mars all messed up like it is. Some from there came over here, probably the Egyptians, and when it became evident that they weren't fighting the good fight, they built the pyramids and did whatever alignment special geometric voodoo that we just can't understand yet and got out this joint.

The few who knew about these things knew that the true nature of all working things must be hidden from the masses until these recent years, when it wouldn't matter anymore. If we knew too much before then, we might become a danger to those coming back or even worse, establish a planet-sized Iran in the middle of the solar system.

Jesus and what was left of the Greek Gods, now God, had little power left as those Gods the Egyptians prayed to had cursed this whole side of the planet with plagues and diseases and a second ice age before they left. Jesus walked around trying to convince everyone what the deal was, explaining all sorts of things the people hadn't been allowed to know before. Those loyal to the Egyptian Gods had already started their perpetrating, and squashed that little rebellion.

Zoom to the future, we saw a glimpse of God and the good spirit come back in the 60's. Everyone was trying to come together against the man, a raising consciousness saw wrongness with where we were headed, and we wanted to be free of the system and take a righteous path. Unfortunately, the devices employed such as drugs squashed this little rebellion, thoroughly, and a moon landing firmly convinced us that this was the direction we needed to take.

And here we are, set up for this apocalypse, with 6 billion people, a collapsing climate, and no direction.

Originally posted by alienaddicted
u know why humanbean?

because god is not what you think God is.


sincerely,

Alienaddict

As much as AA and I disagree, AA has hit the nail on the head here.

This thread was started with an implied conception of god as some external objective reality out there somewhere. While this is probably what most westerners think about when they say "god", it is not what early Christians had in mind.

Read Paul's writings. He talks about things like the christ within, christ's sacrifice before the beginning of time, etc.

Even in the later gospels Jesus is quoted as saying we are all gods. These are mystical concepts - symbols designed to invoke a certain response rather than intended for intellectual dissection.

So, while it certainly is fun to bash the absurdities of modern western Christianity, if you want to discuss Biblical Christianity, you really need to step inside the time machine and travel back 2000 years.

Indeed, we all have the power to become Gods, should we ever live under ideal conditions and practice this abilities. As soon as our living conditions got better, it became necessary to pollute the world and suppress these powers, cloud our minds. It's a big power struggle between the Gods, and man is caught up in the middle. After Jesus and God lost their seat of power, they didn't give a damn anymore and knew what was in store for us, loved us, and decided to let us in on the secrets. Too bad those still loyal to the other Gods killed them.

Originally posted by bigpappadiaz
Jesus and what was left of the Greek Gods, now God, had little power left as those Gods the Egyptians prayed to had cursed this whole side of the planet with plagues and diseases and a second ice age before they left

If you'd take the time to do some research, you'd very well know that the greek gods and the egyptian gods are as fiction as the words you are speaking. They were nothing more than Babylonian gods renamed and adjusted to suit them.

When one prays to a fabricated god, he's basicly sending lucifer a note through one of his demons. lucifer can't be everywhere at once, it's his biggest weakness. Giving him many names makes it hard for a simple brainwashed mind to see who is really being worshiped.

When researching the origin of all those fabricated gods, all roads lead straight to Semiramis(lucifer's best puppet).

And that is why you are still a sheep, and as I'm part of this large stupid herd, I'm getting lead into the same apocalypse as you. I just hope what happened to Mars doesn't happen to us as well.

It's a large power struggle, those in charge don't want us knowing the true nature of this universe and how our planet works, because if we did then we might be able to prevent this planet-altering disaster. Unfortunately, the one movement that might of been able to save us, back in the 60's, failed to bring about the necessary awarenes, and the subsequent moon landing in the 70's firmly convinced us that we were on the right path.

Jesus and God loved us, the people, so much they decided they'd let us in on the secrets rather than see us destroyed by these other Gods who cursed this whole side of the world with plagues and whatnot. He started going around talking about technology, how the climate and earth works, spirituality, how these guys will use our own vices, greeds and bad habits against ourselves, and all these invisible sort of things you'd really have to see in action to believe. Unfortunately that little rebellion got squashed, as we can see nowadays, and anyone going around talking about weird stuff got killed and were considered demons as well. And throughout history we've seen libraries burned, large-scale operations carried out with witchhunts and inquisitions and whatever targeting these same demon-speakers.

Stupid people.

Originally posted by WiseSheep
If you'd take the time to do some research, you'd very well know that the greek gods and the egyptian gods are as fiction as the words you are speaking.

The same type of research will reveal all other gods to be just as fictional.

Originally posted by WiseSheep
They were nothing more than Babylonian gods renamed and adjusted to suit them.

...and the Babylonian gods were adpated from the Sumerian gods. The Jewish gods (then god) were adapted from the Babylonian gods. The Christian god was a syncretic mesh of greek and Jewish gods with influence from eastern mysticism, and so on.

All gods are fabricated gods.

I think it's cause God doesn't care. We did kill his son didn't we? Or maybe he does care, but his voice would make our wee heads explode. Those are probebly two good reasons.