Indian Air Force : News, Pics and Discussion thread

The PV-2 that flew over Bangalore:




Notice its new number .. KH 2004....notice the RWR antennae on the front and aft of the vertical stabilizer. Also, notice the mild hump on the spine starting just in front of the vertical stabilizer...new missile adapter and new missiles...



[edit on 1-12-2005 by Stealth Spy]

Interesting. If you you go to the aircraft category list and sort by author you'll find that stealthspy has started over 2 full pages of threads that are almost exactly like this one. The general theme being that the indian airforce is really up and coming and that the U.S. Air Force is not.

I keep checking this category because I am very interested in the subject of military aircraft, but I just keep finding the same theme and same pictures of the same green, orange and white jet that to me still looks like a clone of the 1950's vintage F-102.

Also, I think that something like 19 of the 21 posts (over 90%) in this thread so far are by the author. That's one way to earn points, I guess.

Can we get something new listed here, like the posts from intelgurl?

Oh boy this wannabe "Roman" ORACLE is back with and he's at his trolling best.

Originally posted by centurion1211The general theme being that the indian airforce is really up and coming and that the U.S. Air Force is not.

Must be in your w** dreams. This thread has nothing to with the USAF ... of course one will know that only if one could read.

I keep checking this category because I am very interested in the subject of military aircraft, but I just keep finding the same theme and same pictures of the same green, orange and white jet that to me still looks like a clone of the 1950's vintage F-102.

Another fast one from our favourite ORACLE .... looks light soemone lost his eyesight as well

Here is the 1950 F-102 :


And here is the 2005, 4.5 generation LCA Tejas :
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Now ... i could be forgiven for calling someone "the personification of ignorance".

I don't understand why you keep comparing the F-102 to the LCA even after repeated ridiculement of that comparision by many who incidnetly are NOT Indian!


F-102:






Compare these with any of the prev LCA photos. It would seem that your comparisions hold no weightage other than some other basic comparisions(and if you're a military fan then you are beyond rudimentary cognitive comparisions) like :

-->They both have delta wings!!
-->Single Engine!!

Ignoring the habitual troll ....

here's more on the LCA ... the weapons integration on the PV-1 is complete and its out in its combat colours

Here's the new PV-1 (fully integrated with Isreali, French, Russian & Indian weapons)



Here's an old pic of a board at an air show... that showed the Weapons Integration in progress ...

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The PV-1 from another view ... cool camo scheme



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More PV-2 pics >>

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[edit on 2-12-2005 by Stealth Spy]

Posted with thanks to ADA


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I like the Tejas, and I don't think it is a copy of anything, but do you think that perhaps yopu are flogging this to death?

The tail section >>


This is a MUST SEE >> Technical document on the High AoA testing of the LCA (946 kb pdf file - with illustrations)

Pics of the LCA's sub systems - all indigenously made :

Environmental System components >>

LCA's Tarang Radar Warning Reciever System >>

More Tarang components >>

The HUD and the MFD's >>

Pilot Clothing >>

Laser Threat Warning System >>

Laser Target Designator >>

Mission Computers >>

Cockpit instrumentation >>

More Avionics components >>

Avionics components >>

More Avionics components (from HAL)

Night vision systems >>

The airborne interrogator >>

SIVA - externally carried phased interferometry ESM system HADF pod

The Multi Mode Radar >>

Laser Ring Gyro / INS >>

The GTRE Kaveri engine (19,000 lbs / 82 kN thrust)>>

The Kaveri engine starter - GSTU -10

GSTU-10 details >>

Originally posted by Stealth Spy

Originally posted by centurion1211The general theme being that the indian airforce is really up and coming and that the U.S. Air Force is not.

Must be in your w** dreams. This thread has nothing to with the USAF ... of course one will know that only if one could read.

Correcting you on your own information, from your very first post in this thread:

During the last Cope India exercise in February 2004, American F-15 pilots had admitted finding it bizarre that their Indian counterparts had routed them in many maneuvers. This time round, the buzzword was a studied ‘jointness’, though pilots told this newspaper off the record that the IAF had maintained its ‘‘one-up’’.

The USAF is especially under pressure from the Pentagon not to show the F-16 Falcon in bad light, since Washington wants this exercise to work also as a subtle tool for sales to New Delhi. Last year, Senate hearings in the US following the Gwalior exercises indicated that Washington had recognised that its air dominance was severely eroded following the F-15 Eagles' poor performance against Indian Sukhoi-30s.

This type of quote is common to most, if not all of your threads. That is one of my issues.

Another is that only thing that appears to be new on this thread is that you found pictures of this plane where it was painted yellow instead of the usual white, green and orange.

Almost last, tomcat85.free.fr...

Last, with only 4 out of the 30 posts (87%) on this thread by someone other than yourself, you're doing a little better than before. BTW, the 2 page listing of all your threads in this category translates to around 100 very similar threads! Using this thread as an example, we can multiply that by the 30 or more times you post in your own threads and we come to an estimated 3,000 posts by you on this subject!

Flogging the subject to death, indeed ...


[edit on 12/2/2005 by centurion1211]

Perhaps ... you did'nt read this >> Exercise: ‘It wasn’t US against India, but an exercise on how to work together’ ... and moreover it was an article that i quoted, and those were not my remarks.

If you have a problem with that, i suggest you write to the guy who wrote that article ... and quit bothering me about it.

It appears that you seem to think that every thread is about the USAF ..try looking at things in a more constructive spirit ... and stop squibbing about air exercise results.

And lastly, that vintage plane's pic that you posted dose'nt even vaguely look like the LCA....flogging this untrue and riddiculous claim to death is what you seem to be doing .... this is the third thread in which you have spilt your BS about the same vintage junk.

If you have nothing relavent to contribute ... i suggest you quit trolling this thread

[edit on 2-12-2005 by Stealth Spy]

Originally posted by Stealth Spy

I am done with this thread, since with all your posts, you obviously don't need anyone else's thoughts or ideas.

I was simply asking for something new and more interesting for your next 100 threads and 3,000 posts - along the lines of what intelgurl brings to the table rather than continuously rehashing the same subject ad nauseum.

What color comes after yellow plane? Blue, purple, or chartreuse?

Indeed stealth Spy...You "MUST" start a 'yankee glorification thread' at the earliest!!
Centurion, you're trying to control borad policy.
I suggest you do that by U2Uing the corresponding authorities(mods) and keep this discussion to that channel only.
Actually what you've(SS) done is good IMHO.. Keep All LCA updates in one thread and keep updating that.Maybe it violates the "interactive thread" genre but we have purely informative ones on the a/c forum as well.
Only thing I feel is that instead of wasting ATS bandwidth give only select pics/info while link all the other info.
Again that is upto the mods and I'm sure they will get to SS on that if it is an issue.

Why are they buying somany planes and ships? What they getting ready for? And isnt buying all that stuff more expensive then actually building the facilitys that can produce the same stuff?

Is this reliable

Target locked: IAF aims for Mirage 4000

The Defence Ministry might be on the lookout for a new Air Superiority Fighter (ASF) aircraft for the Indian Air Force (IAF) but it is not going to be the US F-16. According to a senior official in the ministry, the government has zeroed in on Mirage 4000, manufactured by Dassault Bréguet of France.

Sources said that senior officials from both the Defence Ministry and the IAF had already checked out Mirage 4000 and had expressed satisfaction on its performance and the features provided by the French manufacturer. "A suitable quotation has been received from Dassault Bréguet and since the IAF has already used Mirage 2000, the latest from the Mirage stable is gaining over F-16," sources added.

Source

HT is a very good source ...I am perplexed by that news .... perhaps the upgraded Mirage-2000-5 that France are offering has been renamed Mirage-4000 (just like the Mig-29 OVT with many more avionics upgrades is now called the Mig-35) ..and this is not the cancelled Super Mirage project that was the predecessor of the Rafale project.

[edit on 3-12-2005 by Stealth Spy]

Although the Mirage 4000 was a great aeroplane, you might call it France's answer to teh Avro Arrow and TSR 2 in that it was at least as good as the best in the world at the time, but was still thrown away, it was abandoned 20 years ago and has undertaken no development since then.

I would be very surprised if it is the 'real' Mirage 4000, maybe you are right and it is a designation that has been applied to a Mirage 2000 variant

This link reads >> At the end of 2005 the Indian Air Force (IAF) showed interest in this plane.

www.fighter-planes.com...