SCI/TECH: Massive Unexplained Cattle Deaths Hit Indian Village

Instead of blaming religions that are older than Christianity and the Hebrew god itself we should take responsibility for what is going on in the planet we live in.

We humans are a plague in this planet and we do not contribute to the ecosystem but with pollution.

Actually I believe more in our planet taking revenge of us humans that any God out there.

Funny that The Hebrew God hates everybody including Jews but it loves Christians.

When are we humans are going to take responsibilities for killing our own planet?

Never as long as the christina God can be blame for it.

Originally posted by marg6043

When are we humans are going to take responsibilities for killing our own planet?

Aahhh. The million dollar question.

I think you're right marg. Not as long as we can say God did it. Too bad.

In case I made my last post unclear, I wasn't quite exactly blaming God for this. I was extremely tired when I posted it (well, i'm tired now too) so I didn't say what I meant to. What I should have said is that, first of all, yes, we are obviously responsible for the fact that our planet is turning into $h1t. Second, what's the point of us talking about this? There is none unless we go out and knock some sense into all the ignorant people out there. That's what we should do, make a difference, create the future for the better. Also, I believe that this is connected to God, we are destroying his creation and I don't think he likes that. Nature is fighting back harder than ever, and guess what? God is the creator of "nature" and we are challenging it. I'm not saying he himself is doing this, what I'm saying is, don't mess with thy creation or.............get killed. Nature works in it intended way in which we can't seem to understand.

Originally posted by Acekwak

God is the creator of "nature" and we are challenging it. I'm not saying he himself is doing this, what I'm saying is, don't mess with thy creation or.............get killed. Nature works in it intended way in which we can't seem to understand.

Thanks for explaining Acekwak.

But even tho you don't, many people DO blow off legitimate observations and knowledge, saying everything bad is a prophesied punishment from God. ...Not exactly a position that motivates anyone to change their behavior or priorities.

You are saying that not believing in your god, jesus is the result of thousands of people and cattle losing their lives.
Well, as far as I know, disasters have hit places that contain mainly christain populations. The most recent one is the tornado in Iowa. So maybe god is telling you something afterall...

If you want to know about your missionaries in India, they offer money to make people convert to their faith! Thats how low christianity is, they have to offer money to make other people beleive in their god. That can be equivalent to religious prostitution. Money for faith!

Oh and another thing, what happened to your priests molesting young boys? Are they still going to go to heaven because they believe in jesus?


To all others: I have nothing against christianity, I respect your religion as much as any other . But I do believe people like managerie are just plain stupid. I pity them.

Originally posted by Acekwak
Nature is fighting back harder than ever

But its not. There isn't anything particularly unsual going on in this case, some cattle and other domesticated animals in a part of india have gotten sick and died off. Diseases do that.

kshatreya_putrudu
Well, as far as I know, disasters have hit places that contain mainly christain populations. The most recent one is the tornado in Iowa. So maybe god is telling you something afterall...

Heck, what about all the christians in india that are suffering because of these diseases too. hardly makes sense to say god is punishing the hindus by getting 'their sacred cows' sick, but is also affecting the christians in the country too.

Originally posted by kshatreya_putrudu
You are saying that not believing in your god, jesus is the result of thousands of people and cattle losing their lives.
Well, as far as I know, disasters have hit places that contain mainly christain populations. The most recent one is the tornado in Iowa. So maybe god is telling you something afterall...

If you want to know about your missionaries in India, they offer money to make people convert to their faith! Thats how low christianity is, they have to offer money to make other people beleive in their god. That can be equivalent to religious prostitution. Money for faith!
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Oh and another thing, what happened to your priests molesting young boys? Are they still going to go to heaven because they believe in jesus?


To all others: I have nothing against christianity, I respect your religion as much as any other . But I do believe people like managerie are just plain stupid. I pity them.

Hi, me again. Much of the the public does not know what it is like to really meet and follow Jesus as a believer, not a mere religious Christian. Those not knowing Jesus at all follow a religion called "Christianity" and do things clearly against the Bible:

1. The Crusades were completely unbliblical. The Lord says that our weapons are spiritual. The one who kills with the sword must die by the sword and be numbered with the transgressors (see Gospels and Revelation 13). Taking a city, killing people, force them to convert, is something Jesus specifically forbade in the New Testament (it was allowed to judge other nations in the Old Testament before He was born).

2. Just because there are lots of people in America who call themselves Christians do not mean they follow Jesus at all and it does not mean that He calls them His own. Much or even most of the church today is not part of God's kingdom in the upcoming end-times. There is a remnant who have left much of the desires of the world behind to follow Him, but most want to live exactly like the world, despite how Jesus said the world is at enmity with God, and still get the meal ticket to heaven. In the coming days, many of those people will be sifted out of the church when it starts to cost them something to follow Jesus.

3. Christians offering money for converts is against the word of God clearly and is an abomination to the Lord. Jesus anger did not burn against the Romans or any other governmental system or army. His anger burned against those who claimed to follow God and should have known better, the pharisees and saduccees, and, in our day, the apostate churches that teach a prosperity gospel.

4. Catholic priests molesting Children are not part of God's kingdom. The Catholic faith as a whole is a religion started by Constantine which mixed the Word of God with pagan rituals (an abomination to God) to pacify and unity a kingdom. And the word of God is watered down for expediency. None of these men will escape judgment for what they have done having known the word of God and then going their own evil way. The latter epistles talk about the end times when people will no longer endure sound doctrine and turn aside to fables. What you are seeing is the behavior of those who believe fables. God says that during this time of refinement, the wicked will continue to do wickedly, but the wise will understand.

It is true that God is gracious and forgiving for mine and other sins, but only to those who turn from their ways and earnestly follow Him. Hebrewsx says very clearly that once a person has been given the Light of the Word of God and continues knowingly in sin, there is no longer any sacrifice (including Jesus' sacrifice), but a certain expectation of judgment.
And there have been a few times in my life that I chose the sin. And God sent a disciplinary judgment against me just as sure as the sun rises. A loving father will always discipline His son when the consequences of not doing that are more severe (and they are).

Just because someone invokes God's name blasphemously in some action does not mean it is "Christian" by any means. I am not the religous "Christian". I am one of Jesus believers. He is returning for the remnant of believers, not pew-warming Christians. There will be a lot of people shocked by this when it happens because many pastors have compromised the message to make it an easy salvation message that costs you nothing. It has cost me a lot to follow Christ.

Also, in 1st or 2nd Peter (I believe) it states clearly that Judgment must begin at the House of God. We believers are tried and hudged first to get us ready to help others in the coming days. That is what is happening to me now to transform me to be a person who can minister to others in the times ahead. He goes on to say that if we are judged, what is the end of those who choose to remain in wickedness? Ouch! As we'll all start to see in the next two years or so.

What I am saying is that, if you harm those who God calls His own, not just mere "Christians" who follow some religion, God will deal with that in no uncertain terms. The fireworks in Revelation happen coincidentally about the time that the kingdoms of the world try to put God's elect into slavery, bondage, and servitude. Bad idea!

Originally posted by managerie
1. The Crusades were completely unbliblical. The Lord says that our weapons are spiritual. The one who kills with the sword must die by the sword and be numbered with the transgressors (see Gospels and Revelation 13). Taking a city, killing people, force them to convert, is something Jesus specifically forbade in the New Testament (it was allowed to judge other nations in the Old Testament before He was born).

I think that Jesus specifically forbade it because he knew that the Jews got it wrong the first time. God never told anyone in the Old Testament that genocide was his way of judging nations, Jewish leaders just told their people "God told me to" as a way to justify genocide and afterwords it was written down as a message from God. In a more savage time it would have been easier to beleive someone if they said "God told me to invade Iraq because he wants to judge their nation". In fact it probably would have been written into the book of George and taken as a fundamental truth that God personally spoke to George W Bush. In Sunday school kids would learn about the prophet George and how God spoke to him so that he might bring judgement to Iraq.

The bible was written by human beings, and human beings no matter how inspired are still not infallible. A majority of it is made up or exaggerated, and the rest is comprised of general moral guidelines that virtually all religions agree on. The fact that people still take it word for word as the undisputable truth speaks volumes about how little we've changed from the time of the crusades.

The most accurate portrayal of what Jesus would have wanted the bible to be like is found in the Thomas Jefferson bible.

What I am saying is that, if you harm those who God calls His own, not just mere "Christians" who follow some religion, God will deal with that in no uncertain terms. The fireworks in Revelation happen coincidentally about the time that the kingdoms of the world try to put God's elect into slavery, bondage, and servitude. Bad idea!

God has yet to call those who follow Jesus "his own". Christians have SAID that God considers them "his own", but so have Jews, Muslims, and many other religions. Even amongst Christians, there are people (like yourself) who consider their particular flavor of Christianity to be the "real" Christianity. They think that Protestants are "God's own" but not Catholics, or vice versa...

2. Just because there are lots of people in America who call themselves Christians do not mean they follow Jesus at all and it does not mean that He calls them His own. Much or even most of the church today is not part of God's kingdom in the upcoming end-times. There is a remnant who have left much of the desires of the world behind to follow Him, but most want to live exactly like the world, despite how Jesus said the world is at enmity with God, and still get the meal ticket to heaven. In the coming days, many of those people will be sifted out of the church when it starts to cost them something to follow Jesus.

What makes those who follow Jesus any more a part of God's kingdom than those who follow Mohamed or Krishna?

God has yet to call those who follow Jesus "his own". Christians have SAID that God considers them "his own", but so have Jews, Muslims, and many other religions.

Hi, let me help a little here:

Ephesians 1:14
which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God's own possession, unto the praise of his glory.

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that ye may show forth the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

So, if I am not my own, do I not belong to the one who paid the price? Is it not appropriate for God to call us His own since Jesus made the purchase?

Give me a break, folks.... If you want to discuss religion at this great length, DO SO IN SOME OTHER THREAD!!!!!!

Originally posted by loam
Give me a break, folks.... If you want to discuss religion at this great length, DO SO IN SOME OTHER THREAD!!!!!!

Sorry, guys ....but she/he(managarie) started it!

Just a thing to managerie - You have quoted the bible and other stuff as proof that jesus is great, but do you realize all other religions have their own texts?

What makes these texts less important?

Do you know anything about Hinduism or Islam or Buddism or any other religions to state that people following them are stupid and go to hell.

Let me tell you something - please please take a few weeks and learn about these religions and then tell us why you think christianity is still inferior. And please do so on another thread.

Indeed, there are a number of threads that have some of these religious topics as their primary subject, and the detailed discussion on these topics would best be continued there, such as in

Faith Without Works
Council of Nicea did not chose the books of the bible
The paganism of christianity
The Conspiracy of Religious Disinformation
Islam and War
Christian Extremists
Rev. Pat again!
Was Paul bad for Jesus?
God's Storms
How many people honestly think its the end?
The Life and Times of Hercules (500 BC) Sound Awfully Familiar!

Originally posted by marg6043
Instead of blaming religions that are older than Christianity and the Hebrew god itself we should take responsibility for what is going on in the planet we live in.

We humans are a plague in this planet and we do not contribute to the ecosystem but with pollution.

Actually I believe more in our planet taking revenge of us humans that any God out there.

Funny that The Hebrew God hates everybody including Jews but it loves Christians.

When are we humans are going to take responsibilities for killing our own planet?

Never as long as the christina God can be blame for it.

A thousand pardons for being late on this..

How can we blaim other religions that we have foundations in? Some stories most likely have somehow in one way or another been derived from other older religions and are not entirely our own. Us as humanity should stop blaiming others and their beliefs for the problems going on, on this world we inhabit together. This is all just MY opinion; i dont mind others disagreeing but there is no need to get so heated over this debate. If I ran the world i would just institute a policy of "leave us alone; we leave you alone".

~Spart

Someone asked if this could be an H5N1 mutation, and someone else asked if it might be poisoning. Fact is, it could be both - a combination of these two -and other- factors. Proteins are the key factor that connect the dots.


Everything goes back to the proteins in molecular biology. A molecular description of poisoning would be: the poison causes certain proteins to misfold; these misfolded proteins then interfere with cell production, and prevent the body from making healthy cells. Instead, the misfolded proteins replicate, take over the cells, and create abnormal mutated cells. Different symptoms arise depending upon which particular proteins and cells are infected/affected.

Unfortunately, misfolded proteins easily become infectious prions - and have the ability to hitchhike on microbes like viruses and bacteria. So now, most viral and bacterial infections also carry prion infections.

Prion creation and infectivity is not a new biological process, but the process is heightened and accelerated by now-common contaminations, pollution and other factors.

Traditional dogma about infectivity is inadequate to describe, understand, or deal with current changes in the molecular/biological world.



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