The media are minimising US and British war crimes in Iraq

Originally posted by Dronetek
Where are the threads condeming the people who behead people while they are still alive or blow up car bombs next to groups of kids getting candy?

It is important to remember that while tragic, the fault for these civilian deaths lies squarely at the feet of the insurgents, and to a lesser degree, the civilians that house them.

Originally posted by devilwasp
Is this a simple one sided fight?

I pose this question to everyone..
This is a conspiricy board....that means we must look at all the angles...all the sides and all the evidence.

Is this a simple "Co-alition intelligence" vs "Alquida" conflict ?
Is it a "US conspiricy" where they create the enemy they are fighting?
Or...
Is this a multi sided fight?
Think about the players who would gain from chaos, anarchy, war, power and money.
Not just about the western oil barons or the eastern terrorists, but think about ALL the players...
Who is an ally and who is an enemy? Who is nethier?

Some call this paranioa and I agree it is bordering it...but.....what if its right?

Originally posted by Syrian Sister
the US and UK use children and civilians as human shields, as well as the israelies. They have done it in Fallujah, and they also are doing it (by their own admition) in basrah. I'll bet your not suprised though

Originally posted by Syrian Sister
the US and UK use children and civilians as human shields, as well as the israelies. They have done it in Fallujah, and they also are doing it (by their own admition) in basrah. I'll bet your not suprised though

It is important to remember that while tragic, the fault for these civilian deaths lies squarely at the feet of the insurgents, and to a lesser degree, the civilians that house them.

So what you are saying is, it's iraqies fault that you murdered them, because they dared to fight back against your illegal invasion and occupation.

UK troops do not use human shields, period.

www.guardian.co.uk...

UK's Iraq forces face Hizbullah-style roadside bombs

· Infra-red devices almost impossible to detect
· Weapons pierce vehicles' armoured protection

Ewen MacAskill and Simon Tisdall
Thursday October 6, 2005
The Guardian

British forces have no answer to the sophisticated roadside bombs being used against them in Iraq. They are almost impossible to detect. They are triggered when a vehicle touches an invisible, infra-red beam. And they are almost impossible to stop. The explosives power a metal ball capable of penetrating most of the armour-plating used by the army.

The insurgent has to be able to see the British vehicle coming. If he or she was to set the infra-red beam too soon, the victims could be Iraqi civilians rather than British troops. Recently, British forces have tried to circumvent this by sticking nose to tail with Iraqi vehicles. This can work in busy, urban centres like Basra but is more difficult in the wide, nearly empty deserts that make up much of the south of the country.

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portland.indymedia.org...

US Forces Using Iraqi Children as Human Shields
author: IM
Resistance field commander saw American troops use women and children as human shields atop their tanks.
A field commander in the Iraqi Resistance disclosed to a correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam in al-Fallujah what he called the "tragedy of the street fighting" by which he meant the way that the invading American troops were using Iraqi women and children as human shields.

The commander said that the tragedy began last Tuesday. Before that he had never seen it before, where the Americans were using women and children to shield their tanks. The commander commented: "this state is living through a type of savagery that history has never known before."

The Resistance field commander said "we could hear the cries of the children and the women's calls for help from atop a column of tanks that was driving along ath-Tharthar street last Tuesday. Some of our fighters closed their eyes in pain and wept at the sight."

As Iraqi Resistance attacks in the city of al-Qa’im on the border with Syria increase, American troops in the city have taken to using Iraqi children as human shields. As a result, local people are keeping their children home from school.

The correspondent of Mafkarat al-Islam in the city reported that every time American troops want to go on patrol in downtown al-Qa’im – something they are obliged to do by the orders they receive – the soldiers attract children to them using candy and presents. When the children approach to take the trinkets, the soldiers grab dozens of them and put them on the backs of their tanks and armored vehicles to prevent the Resistance from attacking them.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Mohammed Badwan, 13, was apparently grabbed by Israeli officers and tied by one arm to a screen covering the windshield of their armored vehicle. A photographer snapped a picture of the incident

The US and UK dont "murder" people ever period full stop.

If people are stupid enough to fight against the liberation of the fine country of Iraq, they die as enemy combatants, they are not murdered.

Umm no, the civilians don't want to fight, hence the word civilian The Iraqi insurgent/terrorists use them as shields, as they know western morals will make coalition soldiers hesitate.

But what can we expect from an area which has bred barbarism for centuries if not millenia