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I am a white person, i've lived in canada my whole life until 03, when i've gone to quebec (french province) and spoken english i've gotten the cold shoulder or have been disrespectfully treated. If you speak their language it's a different ball game. If white people were to migrate to the islamic regions, would they embrace us or not? would they expect the same things we expect when it comes to learning the culture and speaking the language
slap in the face to white people just because they are white. you have a problem w/ white people and it's reflecting quite clearly in your most of your points.
Muslims who have migrated to Toronto some not all make the argument that they should enforce 'sharia law' which is a muslim law into the ontario law books, the argument from other muslims is that they moved there to get away from that... I agree, thats 'part' of the point for immigrating...
Those that want change usually protest in the peaceful way and write to their district represenatatives, when you riot your not advocating for change, when your burning innocent old ladies, your not advocates for change, exhibiting this kind of behavior will not get you anywhere, and it will not get you anything. You will be more of an outcast and people will not want you there, you will feel more unwelcomed, and then you really won't have anything.
I guess that old lady really deserved what she got huh.. she must of done something terribly wrong to invoke fire upon her body.
Originally posted by XyZeR
i agree... i bet you won't see these stories in the media:
Iman condems riots
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
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It deals with a lot of the ideas of fundamentalism some seem determined to see as the root of all of these troubles across the world.
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It's very interesting stuff and, IMO, of far more value that the poorly disguised racism usually bandied about on the subject.
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Originally posted by Long Lance
the simple matter of fact is that if you've got an enclave of Mohammedans near you chances are you'll be attacked sooner or later, cute, eh?
motivation is not necessarily a mystery, perhaps, after all, why don't you guys try to look past the rim of your cup and give the theory of reverse racism a shot, mmh?
namely that they hate us
how is that?
Originally posted by Uncle Joe
True Lies, would you think it was wrong for there to be no black senators or congressmen in the USA?
Would it be acceptable for a portion of the population to have no elected representatives?
There is a large portion of the French population with no direct representation. That isnt good. It can leave people angry because they dont feel that they can talk to whoever their MP is through fear of discrimination.
A few Muslim MP's may well have prevented this by giving people someone to talk too. If thats rascist then so be it... Its also a potential solution for the future.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Originally posted by Long Lance
the simple matter of fact is that if you've got an enclave of Mohammedans near you chances are you'll be attacked sooner or later, cute, eh?
- This is just so far removed from the truth it is laughable.
Why are you presenting this ridiculous far-fetched fantasy as some kind of fact?
Jayzuss wept, but this 'they all secretly really hate us and want to get us' nonsense is like some absurdly melodramatic 19th century trashy novel.
Once in a while there was indeed occasional trouble as the 2nd and 3rd generation asian kids (often Hindus not Muslims - just as happened with the Jewish east end of London kids and young men a decade or two before them) stopped just taking the 'racist treatment' certain so-called indigenous whites thought entitled to dish out to them.
Again, it might not be right but who could blame them?
Originally posted by Krpano
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they come to europe, manage to have a kid with some stupid european female and get the papers...
You guys are 100% on the money.
It makes me sick to see the Socialists blaming French culture and society for the rioting Muslim Thugs on the streets. Krpano nailed it on the head, most of these people are LAZY and they DEMAND the government give them money to do nothing for 9 months out of 12.
Its time to get some heavily armed soldiers out there with machine guns. If some teenage punks who attack police officers get blown away....TOUGH LUCK!! Their parents shoulda kept them inside.
Im tired of the weaklings saying: Those poor immigrants are victims of a "raciest" French society. From what I see, Islam is the most intolerant and raciest society on earth.
they come to europe, manage to have a kid with some stupid european female and get the papers.
Originally posted by Luxifero
No, not really. Thier mentality just equates to your own bigotry.
Luxifero
Originally posted by Luxifero
This weakling would throw you into this riot and see how far you got in containing it with a machine gun; go, let's see how strong you are in the face of hundreds of angery protesters who you hope to quell.
Luxifero
Originally posted by Luxifero
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There are a great deal of many other issues at hand which usualy enspouse poor regions; an education system which may not be on par with those of a upper-class bracket; families not proccuring enough time to spend with their children which leads these children to other avenues of familial sociability.
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Originally posted by Long Lance
so, for the n-th time, there are tons of minorities, most of them do not resort to violence, i wonder why that is. i'd really love to hear a politically correct explanation, because there's no doubt that North African Muslims are not the only disadvantaged group in existance.
if you don't get my drift, let's just say that injustice is being commited not reduced by these actions. of course, if you call us right wing extremists once more, perhaps this minor problem in your line of argument will magically vanish allowing you to return to your dream world where anyone not bending down for political correctness is a narrow-minded racist, although i doubt it. is personal smear really all you're capable of?
PS: on top of all that they're ungrateful, guess who built their homes and pays for their schools, gave them sanitation, medical services and many other things they could only dream of if they lived in their country of origin? social programs mostly, ie. the taxpayers.
finally, is there ANYTHING you appeasers can credibly suggest that would reliably put an end to rioting? thought so, we're all guilty but there's nothing we can do to change that, right?? fine ideology of yours.
[edit on 9-11-2005 by Long Lance]