The True Origin of "Aliens":

Anyone ever see that movie "Forgotten"

Supposedly this woman thinks she has a child that died in a plane crash but her psychologist and husband are saying she never had a child. Turns out the NSA becomes interested in her because she hasn't forgotten her son like she was supposed to.

There is a part where she teams up with a guy that has had the same thing happen..loss of a child ,,even on the same flight.
So they are interrogating this NSA agent that is following them and they are p-oed and want answers.


The NSA agent says...i cant tell you because the truth wouldn't fit in your brain. They do experiments, we just try to minimize the damage. The 2 victims are close to bashing his face in with a fire poker, yet he still will not give up info. Finally the woman pleads with the agent to tell her, she promises not to tell anyone.

The agent says, They are listening now. At that moment the agent and entire house is sucked off the face of the earth leaving the 2 victims there.

What if our government is in this kind of predictment. They have no choice but to cooperate.

Well to this day, the only solid evidence Ive seen is the YAHWEH video, in that thread with 144392 or whatever views. That guy SUMMONS a UFO for a news crew, using something some rabbi taught him in egypt or whatever. Theres your proof, which completely backs up my "theory".

Go STUDY the Ancient Mysteries, then The Bible and youll will then have some sort of clue, because you have none. Youre attached to all the theories and claims, which are so often pushed. Now facts and logic are in your face in your face and and wont accept it, like telling a Christian that Jesus isnt real.

Let me guess, you dont believe in the soul/God/etc????

There are 2 kinds of UFOs:
1. Spirits/"gods"/angels/demons/etc
2. Government designed "ufo's", which most of the world is lightyears away from, so theres no reason to expose it.

Bottom Line.

Originally posted by magnito_student
Anyone ever see that movie "Forgotten"

Supposedly this woman thinks she has a child that died in a plane crash but her psychologist and husband are saying she never had a child. Turns out the NSA becomes interested in her because she hasn't forgotten her son like she was supposed to.

There is a part where she teams up with a guy that has had the same thing happen..loss of a child ,,even on the same flight.
So they are interrogating this NSA agent that is following them and they are p-oed and want answers.


The NSA agent says...i cant tell you because the truth wouldn't fit in your brain. They do experiments, we just try to minimize the damage. The 2 victims are close to bashing his face in with a fire poker, yet he still will not give up info. Finally the woman pleads with the agent to tell her, she promises not to tell anyone.

The agent says, They are listening now. At that moment the agent and entire house is sucked off the face of the earth leaving the 2 victims there.

What if our government is in this kind of predictment. They have no choice but to cooperate.

Or they think they are! Go watch that YAHWEH video, then go back and re-read my writings.

The Ancient Mysteries kids. Crowley was The Master of occult/esoteric ritual. He traveled the globe and performed nearly every single ritual of every culture. In Egypt he finally summoned "Lem". I was skeptical that he actually did until I watched that video earlier.

This is a man who labeled himself the "Anti-Christ", wrote about younger boys as being the ultimate for human sacrifice (due to their semen), his own son died in one of his rituals, all his wives ended up in a straightjacket, shall I go on?

Anyways these are demons, plain and simple.

I have proven that the source of the world-wide grey phenomenon is Crowley, and that video proves they are spiritual and not technological.

Any questions?

I find it peculiar that someone has completely pooh-poohed the idea of aliens "coming to visit".

Do we really have such huge egos that we cannot fathom the existance of other life forms? Why do they have to be visible? What about microscopic pods? Things that we can't see? Why can't they "beam up" to some sort of cloaked ship if they happen to crash (why that would happen when they are capable of inter-galactic travel is unbeknownst to me)? Can you prove God exists? No? Then why do we have to prove aliens exist?

Oh, and about all this yelling about proof and sites and the like...well, how are we supposed to prove anything when all possibilities have been completely ruled out by you already?

Does anybody remember what the term "alien" means? From Dictionary.com:
Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange
Alien does not equal demon. Demon does equal alien.

Originally posted by Rouschkateer
I find it peculiar that someone has completely pooh-poohed the idea of aliens "coming to visit".

Ok so explain how they are going to get here? Shall we go quantam or relativity?

we really have such huge egos that we cannot fathom the existance of other life forms? Why do they have to be visible? What about microscopic pods? Things that we can't see? Why can't they "beam up" to some sort of cloaked ship if they happen to crash (why that would happen when they are capable of inter-galactic travel is unbeknownst to me)? Can you prove God exists? No? Then why do we have to prove aliens exist?

I never said we're the only life in the universe. just here on earth(remeber LIFEforms)

Oh, and about all this yelling about proof and sites and the like...well, how are we supposed to prove anything when all possibilities have been completely ruled out by you already?

whats funny her eis not a single one of you have provided a single convincing link, to support anything whatsoever, just more talk and theories. FACT: I have facts and logic(and then some), you have theories and ideas.

Does anybody remember what the term "alien" means? From Dictionary.com:
Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange
Alien does not equal demon. Demon does equal alien.

Ya so? So that would make me an alien around here then, what are you trying to prove? While that definition doesnt include "from another planet", it does include "from another world" in a sense. Back to your intended point? What since that dictionary doesnt include "from another planet", then thats not what alien is? Explain, or does this somehow change the fact that Crowley 'invented' "aliens"?

Why are sites like this always in such outrageous colors that I can never read more than one or two sentences without throwing up?

www.cix.co.uk...

I never said we're the only life in the universe. just here on earth(remeber LIFEforms)

What about cows?

There are 2 kinds of UFOs:
1. Spirits/"gods"/angels/demons/etc
2. Government designed "ufo's", which most of the world is lightyears away from, so theres no reason to expose it.

Why would demons be driving around in flying saucers and crashing in the New Mexico desert? Aren't demons invinsible?

So in theory, the government have known that there are demons flying around in our airspace since at least the 40s and since then they have attempted to reverse engineer their ships (Human UFOs as you say) and build similar craft, keeping them secret from the public due to there 'dark demonic origins'?

Why rule out aliens as a possible candidate for Greys?

Doesn't believing in 'demons' go against the conventional laws of physics? The same laws which restrict alien life forms to visit our planet?

They are all just demons using trickery on society to mix it up, or its made up by true nut jobs wanting attention.

"They are all just demons"....... That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

Aliens, demons, does it really matter that much what they are as of yet?

And if they really are demons, that even more amazing and more 'out of this world' than alien life forms.....








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Whos to say it really happened, or didnt. Government has test facilites, and bases all over that region, how do you know it wasnt just a government craft? Whats the evidence? Pics of tin foil, wheres the aliens?

Just because theres a light in the sky means it can be nothing other than a spaceship?

The government knows more about technology, and spiritual forces than anyone else.

Ok well Crowley summoned the first known grey using a ritual summoning spell, so magic spells bring forth aliens from other galaxies... or spirits which are likely everywhere anyways?

I have to fly go read my comments in the YAHWEH thread.

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Whos to say it really happened, or didnt. Government has test facilites, and bases all over that region, how do you know it wasnt just a government craft? Whats the evidence? Pics of tin foil, wheres the aliens?

A government craft doesn't just crash in the desert and get forgotten for a few weeks. Also, government personel don't have huge heads and spindley bodies.

Wouldn't the government admit after nearly 60 years that what crashed in near Roswell was a military craft? Why did they change their story 4 times?

The discriptions and eye witness testimony doesn't match a downed military craft at all.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
Whos to say it really happened, or didnt. Government has test facilites, and bases all over that region, how do you know it wasnt just a government craft? Whats the evidence? Pics of tin foil, wheres the aliens?

Just because theres a light in the sky means it can be nothing other than a spaceship?

The government knows more about technology, and spiritual forces than anyone else.

Ok well Crowley summoned the first known grey using a ritual summoning spell, so magic spells bring forth aliens from other galaxies... or spirits which are likely everywhere anyways?

I have to fly go read my comments in the YAHWEH thread.

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So your saying EBE's are demons, even though it's more likely they are interplanetery or extra dimesional, how old are you 15?

I'd be interested to see this video of the summoning however of this so called grey/demon.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
Ok so explain how they are going to get here? Shall we go quantam or relativity?

Why should I delve into quantum or relativity? I don't know anything about those two subjects. I don't need to explain a theory about another species space travel capability. Besides, that would all be theory to you, wouldn't it?

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
I never said we're the only life in the universe. just here on earth(remeber LIFEforms)

No, you didn't. And neither did I. You did say, in your original post:

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
Aliens life forms do not come here, but that dont mena(sic) they dont exist.

So why can't my statement of :

Originally by Rouschkateer
Why do they have to be visible? What about microscopic pods? Things that we can't see? Why can't they "beam up" to some sort of cloaked ship if they happen to crash (why that would happen when they are capable of inter-galactic travel is unbeknownst to me)?

be feasible? Where's a supporting debate against that? Why do I have to provide a link to every theory I may have? You suggested one site, and it is about a magician.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
whats funny her eis not a single one of you have provided a single convincing link, to support anything whatsoever, just more talk and theories. FACT: I have facts and logic(and then some), you have theories and ideas.

No logic or support or facts from you has been given to me.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
Ya so? So that would make me an alien around here then, what are you trying to prove? While that definition doesnt include "from another planet", it does include "from another world" in a sense. Back to your intended point? What since that dictionary doesnt include "from another planet", then thats not what alien is? Explain, or does this somehow change the fact that Crowley 'invented' "aliens"?

"Ya so"? What, are we six years old?
My point is, just because something comes along that we have no explaination for, it can be deemed "alien", in the true sense of the world. And from the website you provided, the word "alien" isn't mentioned once. My question to you is, what are you trying to prove from a magician's website?
And "ya so" isn't a viable argument.

My guess is he's a young teen into heavy rock who has just discovered crowley woop e doo! Don't worry you will grow out of it & your horizons will broaden with age.


I suggest u research basic ufology, how can u comment on a subject you know nothing about.

Originally posted by thepostman
I suggest u research basic ufology, how can u comment on a subject you know nothing about.

I hope this wasn't to me.

Even if this younger person wants to delve into such subjects, I would rather have him/her open thier eyes to what they are saying and to what other people believe, rather than basing naitivity on their age.

I "discovered" many things too when I was young.

I also believed them like they were my very soul. Based on that, I would rather give IgnoranceIsntBliss a good solid debate than cast this off as teenage ignorance.

Now then, back on subject.

IgnoranceIsntBliss: I did some more research into Crowley, and found that he wasn't all that when it came to channeling his "Lam"- that is, the specific alien that he had become a medium with. Many of the occultists following Crowley, also suggest they too have connected with "Lam".

Fascinating how all of the observances are based on an alien that looks like all of the modern day ones we have sketches on, isn't it?

No no no, sorry for the confusion, but I think it's pretty obvious who I was talking about.

Originally posted by Spreadthetruth

Whos to say it really happened, or didnt. Government has test facilites, and bases all over that region, how do you know it wasnt just a government craft? Whats the evidence? Pics of tin foil, wheres the aliens?

A government craft doesn't just crash in the desert and get forgotten for a few weeks. Also, government personel don't have huge heads and spindley bodies.

Wouldn't the government admit after nearly 60 years that what crashed in near Roswell was a military craft? Why did they change their story 4 times?

The discriptions and eye witness testimony doesn't match a downed military craft at all.

Wheres the pictures, the proof? Surely the most famous event would have some real proof.

Read the 1st post, I proved that the greys with big heads are spirits, or are fiction altogether(popular legend). In fact read all of my posts I keep answering the same claims/theories here.

If they have ufo technology, noene else does, or they aint revealing it either. Considering that, why would they reveal it now? The rest of the world is still trying to catch up to our jet technologies. Go read all of my posts.

Originally posted by Spreadthetruth

They are all just demons using trickery on society to mix it up, or its made up by true nut jobs wanting attention.

"They are all just demons"....... That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

Aliens, demons, does it really matter that much what they are as of yet?

And if they really are demons, that even more amazing and more 'out of this world' than alien life forms.....

Whatever, Crowley and YAHWEH prove they are spiritual forces. How can you argue that fact, without throwing in some more claims and theories. Not only did I initially prove the spiritual connection, but proved it again after watching that yehweh video.


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Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBliss
Read the 1st post, I proved that the greys with big heads are spirits, or are fiction altogether(popular legend). In fact read all of my posts I keep answering the same claims/theories here.

Ok, now I am frustrated and honestly, this "debate" isn't worth the frustration. Really. It isn't.

I read, and re-read you 1st post. I looked all over for your indisputable proof the greys with big heads are spirits, and do you know what? I don't see your proof! All we got was ONE link. What video are you talking about? What proof have you shown me?? I can't prove to you that aliens exist, but unless anyone in the world can put one up on stage for everyone to see, we don't know for sure. LIKEWISE, you can't prove to me beyond a doubt that aliens DON'T exist. Do we understand that?

I'm done here. It isn't worth it. I expect a "nyah-nyah-nyah" soon. Later.

Heres a good one for you:
www.boudillion.com...
Try Google man, it can tell you everything about everything, almost.

The video in the YAHWEH thread here with 140,000+ views. links to the video are on the first page, my relavent comments to this thread are in the last 2 pages.

Im not trying to fight here guys, but im under alot of fire. lol. read this HOT thread I started on another topic(if you dont wanna read it all at least read the 1st and last pages):
www.unexplained-mysteries.com...


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Back and forth, frick and frack...rofl
I wish there was a way I could have all of you hear the suitcase full of tapes where they are speaking and answering all queries.
When they speak through me, it is not my suthen belle voice, but of a voice with no discernible accents nor regional drawls, it is more like, though they can only telepath, my in trance voice is easier for them?
I have been a believer and empath for them since childhood..
MY Grays are real..
If all the other's are not, you all are in for a real surprise...

Accents are aquired, not given by birth; Language is learned, its foundations(spelling, forming etc) are universal regardless of accent; accent doesnt necassarily change the language, nor the understanding of the language; peoples accents can change, but they still say the same words. Some people can fluently speak multiple accents AND languages, therefore they can think them in their head in their inner vioce. etc.

People hear all sorts of different accents as they grow up, and remember them, yet they still usually stick to their primary aquired accent. Some people maintain their own (unique) accent, for the most part. Some people have split personality disorder, that not only sports different accents but also different genders. Some people kill because a vioce told them too, this could either be pure insanity or demon possesion, or both. Some people never lose their imaginary friends. etc. etc.

Its very likely that a personal demon(s) would have a different accent than you. If a demon were deep into your head, trying to get attention, why would it use the same accent?

Your point is?

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