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Originally posted by Mindwalker
Originally posted by 55heroes
Originally posted by Mindwalker
What utter rubbish !!!
This is a picture taken in October of 2002 ( quite a few days after the Falklands War ) of Illustrious entering Rosyth Dockyard for a refit, Invincible is in the background.
The war was on 1982, not in 2002.
You are wrong.
My father
was serving on board a Royal Navy frigate during the Falklands war, its role was a picket ship, part of the battle group which included HMS Invincible...................................................as for the dates, well obviously my sarcasm went over your head !
Originally posted by 55heroes
so?
that photo shows nothing, that´s not Invincible 1982, i have photos that prove Invincible did not reutrn to Portsmouth in 1982.
Originally posted by xmotex
How does one build a 20,000 ton aircraft carrier "in secret?"
Cover it up with an 800 foot tarp and hope nobody notices?
It takes thousands of people to build a major warship, how does one keep them all silent?
Originally posted by MickeyDee
Originally posted by xmotex
How does one build a 20,000 ton aircraft carrier "in secret?"
Cover it up with an 800 foot tarp and hope nobody notices?
It takes thousands of people to build a major warship, how does one keep them all silent?
Get the US to build it...
But seriously, this story is just comical!
Its nearly as bad as the whole Titanic/Olympic switch story!
Mic
Originally posted by xmotex
There are two separate issues here: was Invincible hit? and was she sunk?
I don't find it particularly hard to believe that she was hit, and that the UK covered it up. There have been persistent reports to this effect since 1982.
On the other hand, the idea that a 20,000 ton aircraft carrier went down, and that this (and the loss of how many crewmen?) was somehow covered up, and a replacement built in secrecy, seems to me rather absurd.
Not to mention, one Exocet and 3 250kg bombs does not seem like enough firepower to take out a 20,000 ton carrier - a 2,500 ton frigate, sure.
[edit on 9/1/05 by xmotex]
"Invincible" had to await the arrival of newly-commissioned sister ship "Illustrious" carrying a reformed No.809 Sea Harrier squadron and the first early airborne warning Sea Kings. Reaching the Falklands on the 27th August after leaving Portsmouth on 2nd August, and after a day's vertrep, "Invincible" is at last able to head north on the 28th accompanied by "Bristol" and later RFA "Olna", arriving at Portsmouth on the 17th September to be met by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. After 166 days at sea, "Invincible" claims the record for the longest continuous carrier operations ever. Naval History
Originally posted by Popeye
How do you explain the carriers homecoming on about the 17th September, was a national event watched live on television, lots of Invincible sailor families on the dockside etc... the last great ship to return from the war ... I have pictures in a book
"Invincible" had to await the arrival of newly-commissioned sister ship "Illustrious" carrying a reformed No.809 Sea Harrier squadron and the first early airborne warning Sea Kings. Reaching the Falklands on the 27th August after leaving Portsmouth on 2nd August, and after a day's vertrep, "Invincible" is at last able to head north on the 28th accompanied by "Bristol" and later RFA "Olna", arriving at Portsmouth on the 17th September to be met by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. After 166 days at sea, "Invincible" claims the record for the longest continuous carrier operations ever. Naval History
Originally posted by 55heroes
Remember there is a secret of 90 years about Falkands War when the secret of the WW2 was only of 30 years.
Originally posted by Winchester Ranger T
No wonder they lost, their intelligence is still screwed up after 20 years.
Everyone also seems to be forgetting that the news crews were all based aboard HMS Invincible.
This is all getting silly, but it gives me an idea for another thread.........
Originally posted by Popeye
Originally posted by 55heroes
Remember there is a secret of 90 years about Falkands War when the secret of the WW2 was only of 30 years.
What are you on about the Falklands war was 23 years ago not 90... however the Battle of the falklands was a WWI naval battle between UK and Germany that involved the battlecruiser HMS Invincible in 1914 now that was 91 years ago, though despite being hit 22 times there was no loss of life, the 2 german battlercruisers were sunk. This invincible was sunk during the battle of jutland in 1916
Maybe you guys are getting your history really warped
In the next few years, the Sea Harrier is to be retired, with the three squadrons that use the type being disbanded between early 2004 and 2006. After that, RAF Harriers will make up all of the fixed wing aircraft that operate on board the ships. Officially, Invincible will decommission in 2010, Illustrious in 2012, and Ark Royal in 2015, as two new, much larger aircraft carriers are introduced into service to replace the ships. Invincible has been mothballed in 2005 (available for reactivation on notice), and rumors continue that one of the ships upon decommissioning will be converted into a full LPH to complement HMS Ocean in that role. The future Royal Navy carriers and are due to enter service coincident with the decommissioning of Illustrious and Ark Royal and are expected to displace around 60,000 tonnes each - three times the displacement of the Invincible class.
Whatever the truth of those rumours, it is undisputed that the ships have given fine service to the Royal Navy during their careers. Invincible played a large part in winning the largest naval war since WWII, and they have kept Royal Navy fixed wing aviation alive through a very lean period.
The sixth and current HMS Invincible (R05) is a light aircraft carrier, the lead ship of three in her class.
She was built at Barrow-in-Furness by Vickers Shipbuilding and Engineering. She was laid down in 1973, and launched on 3 May 1977. The ship commissioned on July 11, 1980, and joined the older carriers Hermes and Bulwark in service. After 25 years of service she sailed into Portsmouth Naval Base for the last time on 1 August 2005 [1]. HMS Illustrious succeeded Invincible as the service's flagship.
On July 6, 2005 the Ministry of Defence announced that HMS Invincible would be mothballed until 2010, available for reactivation on 3-months notice. On August 1, 2005 she sailed into Portsmouth for the last time to be decommissioned on August 3, 2005.
See HMS Invincible for other ships of the same name.
Originally posted by deltaboy
en.wikipedia.org...
In the next few years, the Sea Harrier is to be retired, with the three squadrons that use the type being disbanded between early 2004 and 2006. After that, RAF Harriers will make up all of the fixed wing aircraft that operate on board the ships. Officially, Invincible will decommission in 2010, Illustrious in 2012, and Ark Royal in 2015, as two new, much larger aircraft carriers are introduced into service to replace the ships. Invincible has been mothballed in 2005 (available for reactivation on notice), and rumors continue that one of the ships upon decommissioning will be converted into a full LPH to complement HMS Ocean in that role. The future Royal Navy carriers and are due to enter service coincident with the decommissioning of Illustrious and Ark Royal and are expected to displace around 60,000 tonnes each - three times the displacement of the Invincible class.
Whatever the truth of those rumours, it is undisputed that the ships have given fine service to the Royal Navy during their careers. Invincible played a large part in winning the largest naval war since WWII, and they have kept Royal Navy fixed wing aviation alive through a very lean period.
how do u decommision a sunken sink?
www.royal-navy.mod.uk...