men are more intelligent than women

No it's not enough. Men and women are very much different and should not be treated the same way. Men and women do not use the same logic, they do not assimilate information the same way, and they do not have the same routes to mental wellbeing.

I'm getting pretty tired of this conversation at the moment, but feel free to respond, I'll be back to get deeper into it later.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
No it's not enough. Men and women are very much different and should not be treated the same way.

How should they be treated?

Men and women do not use the same logic, they do not assimilate information the same way, and they do not have the same routes to mental wellbeing.

If this is true.. why would they need to be taught these things? What teaching methods do you suggest.. and, for instance.. if a tom boy hates dolls and wearing dresses.. do you think it would be emotionally healthy to force her to play with dolls and wear dresses when it conflicts with her nature?
I would also still like to know your definition of 'real traditional roles' in contrast to 'traditional roles'. You've mentioned this several times thus far and haven't been specific.. it's little surprise the converation is tireing and drawing out when your major point is vague and I have to guess what it is. Please try be clearer.

[edit on 4-9-2005 by riley]

How should men and women be treated? That's rather involved, but to stick to the subject a little better, we'll just go to what you want clarified.

Real traditional roles are simply that the man is the head of the household. Although that might sound very much the same as what is commonly held, it's not due to the practice of it.

Subjegation is not part of marriage. It also has little specifically to do with the woman working or not, so let's leave that aside.

The woman (in traditionally correct Christian roles) will yield her vote to the man, but the key is by choice rather than force. The man should treat her with respect for that alone, and seek her counsel on matters.

The man will take the responcibility upon himself, and the blame as well, but the general idea, is that to be the highest, you must be the lowest.

Being the head of the family means you need to be the head servant to your wife.

To put it simply, if a man takes his wife's best interest before his own in all he chooses, then she can rely on him to make the choices for the family.

Originally posted by TrueLies
I wish men could see us as equals, and i'm sure they try and say they want an equal but when it comes down to it, by nature we just aren't..

Some men do. Not all of us are cave men.