2 to 3 weeks till WW3... the time table...

What do you reckon the draft age will be here in the UK? I want to know if I'll escape it.. I suffer from high blood pressure, will that help?

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Funny you should bring that up Agent..I read in a small side-column in The Guardian some time ago that the Gov't had requested a 'review' of af all health records..a kind of 'state of the nations health' and at the time it puzzled me as to why this non-story had even appeared in the back pages of the paper...perhaps it was for an MoD statistcal analysis of how many draftees they could call upon should the 'need arise'

I don't think high blood pressure would disqualify you from draft-duty...perhaps you could take the mental-health route instead...go to your GP a couple of times complaining that you feel depressed, and that occaisionally you have had suicidal thoughts...you'd end up on the Govt's new mental-health list which would disqualify you from all but a few professions, but that should do the trick....failing that, wear your underpants on your head, put a pencil up each nostril and go '..wubble...' to the draft-sergeant


(i've tried to find the related article in Guardian Unlimited to post a link to but with no success, so you'll have to take my word on this one..)

You mentioned the Ark being found. I read the article... however if this REALLY were to be the case and it actually has been found.... where is th enews on it!???

Wouldn't something like that be HUGE!!?? I mean they found a new fish species sometime last week and THAT was sprinkled throughout the news wires... this is the ARK we are talking about. Isn't the recovery of the ARK part of your 2-3 week timeline? Am I way off by thinking that if this has been found the world would be "interupted" for this historical find?

Peace

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Damn I might have to go to the military here in Finland, or then to civilian service, it's compulsory. Military service is only 6 months, civilian service is almost 12 months. Where would you guys go?

Hope WW3 doesn't start until 2006 autumn though, have to sell a flat that me and my sister own first, can't do that until next march, in order to avoid taxes, and I want to go to this event called the Ultimate Rally, because I won a video editing contest they held, and the prize was a ticket there which is worth USD3950.

So it wouldn't be nice if it wouldn't start until 2006 autumn, can't you guys postpone it??

Laz, i cant wait to see and sign that petition, post that link ASAP!!!

Serum..The date of this 'unveiling' of the resting place of the Ark has been set for the 14 Aug..which coincides with the Judaic commemoration of 'Tish Ba'av' (the 'recorded' dates according to Jewish faith of the destruction of both the first and second temples on the mount) and is a ceremony of lamentation of these events

I for one would love to see such an ancient artefact (should it ever be unearthed) preserved and put on display for the whole world to enjoy irrespective of faith or creed...and i'm sure there are many here who would agree...history, and the artefacts of our ancients should by all means be preserved for the good and enjoyment of humankind as a whole

oh god...my dad is supposed to be coming home on the 14th...he is flying in from Nigeria on that day, i havent seen him in a month...god im scared now...

Sorry,but I have to disagree with some of the statements here.The original post puts a lot of info across,including refrence to the Torah.I suspect he either has not read all of it in detail,or has read one of the flawed translations out there.By comparing Old Testament prophecy and New Testament prophecy,along with fulfillment,we still have yet some time.As to the destruction of the world by nukes,our Lord God has promised that no more than one third of the Earth shall be destroyed by fire.That said,does anyone suppose that Bush's five week vacation plan has any bearing?Suppose he is actually going underground?

Bush hasn't taken his vacation somewhere underground...he's just crawled back under the rock from whence he came...as for the Lord God's agreement with mankind...it aint worth the paper it's written on.



[edit on 3-8-2005 by timski]

Originally posted by AgentSmith
What do you reckon the draft age will be here in the UK? I want to know if I'll escape it.. I suffer from high blood pressure, will that help?

[edit on 3-8-2005 by AgentSmith]

18 - 35 (i think)

I can't be called up

i have manic depression, so im mentally unfit to join.

[edit on 4-8-2005 by infinite]

18 - 35 (i think)

I can't be called up

i have manic depression, so im mentally unfit to join.

I think that would fall under the "over share" catagory

we've got nothing to worry about even if we are all called-up regardless, it'll all be over by christmas

It's obvious there are members here that have done their homework in regards to the various curious maybe coincidentalevents taking place and the events that "may" come to pass.
But, it seems to me the one thing that will be the catalyst to it all will be, the finding of the Arc. Until then everything is pretty much mute.

What surprises me the most is, we're talking major loss of life and catastrophic events to everyone on this planet hinged on one very realistic outcome (something that I consider far more important than some monkey calling UFO's out of the sky) yet this discussion hasn't raised the eyebrows of our more astute members/moderators/owners/admins/trolls/moderatorwannabes. Instead we've people whining about having high blood pressure and mental illness. I can't believe that the con-artist's thread has more attention than this one. But hey you've got to have your priorities!

But, it seems to me the one thing that will be the catalyst to it all will be, the finding of the Arc. Until then everything is pretty much mute.

Excellent point

Someone on ATS (can't remember who) believed that the finding of the Arc would spark a war.(the member stated a holy war) excellent point again, you get a WATS vote my friend

I believe that the possible discovery of the Ark on the 14th, and the ensuing demands for the Temple Mount to be cleared to make way for the third temple is one factor that would trigger an inevitable conflict...the other being the precarious state of the current mount structure itself..

as i mentioned in an earlier post, the site is in grave danger of collapse through undermining and extension of the mosques currently there, and the fact that the whole site sits on an active fault-line that in the current state could be brought toppling down by even a minor quake...the seeming inaction by the Israeli Gov't to assist in preventative measures to secure the site's structural integrity strikes me as a tactic of " well, they were warned that it would collapse if they continued, but they didn't want to know" thus gaining the opportunity to rebuild the third temple on the ruins...this scenario would also provoke a major conflict that would have just as much a devastating effect short of the discovery of the Ark itself..




[edit on 4-8-2005 by timski]

Originally posted by timski
I believe that the possible discovery of the Ark on the 14th, and the ensuing demands for the Temple Mount to be cleared to make way for the third temple is one factor that would trigger an inevitable conflict...the other being the precarious state of the current mount structure itself..

as i mentioned in an earlier post, the site is in grave danger of collapse through undermining and extension of the mosques currently there, and the fact that the whole site sits on an active fault-line that in the current state could be brought toppling down by even a minor quake...the seeming inaction by the Israeli Gov't to assist in preventative measures to secure the site's structural integrity strikes me as a tactic of " well, they were warned that it would collapse if they continued, but they didn't want to know" thus gaining the opportunity to rebuild the third temple on the ruins...this scenario would also provoke a major conflict that would have just as much a devastating effect short of the discovery of the Ark itself..




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First, thanks for your reply..... You and I seem to be the only ones focusing on the ARK side of all this, however it still begs the question of the validity of it all. Again I ask, if the ARK has been found and will be presented 8/14, why arent we hearing more about it in the news?? HOW CAN THIS NOT BE A HUGE STORY??

Hell I remember that douche Geraldo Riviera opening Capones Vault being a bigger story then "finding the ARK".

I also dont by the notion that it will be a big story only AFTER it is found. We are literally 10 days away.... I just dont get it.

Maybe I'm missing something... could someone, ANYONE educate me on this???

Vis Mega: Perhaps you would like to chime in. You did a really good job on your research and post- well done, but doesnt your timeline essentially hinge on the recovery of the ARK. If said "ARK" is not really found, does it effect your timeline for war?

Peace

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Interesting thread however:

Correction...Regarding Arutz Sheva article Kabbalist Blesses Jones: Now´s the Time to Find Holy Lost Ark, published May 20, '05 / 11 Iyar 5765 ..."Armed with this and other blessings, Jones is now excited to uncover his life's pursuit. He believes the ark will be discovered by Tisha B'Av (Aug. 14), a day of repeated tragedy in Jewish history. Most notably, it is the anniversary of the destruction of both the First and Second Holy Temples. " ....(THE ORIGINAL NEWS SOURCE FOR THIS ENTIRE STORY!)...Since returning from Israel, Vendyl has answered many letters and phone calls, asking about this date. He has also addressed this in his various classes via PalTalk. We were not initially aware how widespread this statement has become, quoted in many newspapers throughout the Jewish world. Of course it has caused a lot of excitement. However, Vendyl was slightly, but significantly, misquoted. What he actually said was that it would be very appropriate IF he could discover the Ark by Tisha B’Av. At this time it is obviously not going to happen. However, as soon as the funding permits, he will be in Israel to drill the bore hole and proceed with the dig to uncover the Tabernacle and the Ark. We are hoping that this will be in September.

VENDYL JONES WEBSITE

Maybe he will meet Yahweh there and with enough joint funding unviel the Ark in front of the UFO's and the worlds press...

No seriously though, the topic on this thread is important, as well as some of the things mentioned in here there are other factors that seem to coming to a head too.... Truly if the Ark was found it would have massive societal political and world effects.... but hes not looking in the right place... try Etheopia with the lost tribe of Judah.... but thats just my view.

to be honest forget the Ark it is just a very old antique... if your looking for signs of imminent catastrophies just look at the world around us...especially the way events have unfolded since the milenium and especially more so in the last six months.... these things worry me not any Zealot half good archeoligist who parties with madonna and the kabbalist crowd and wants to summon UFO's with Yahweh for some more money and fuel for his blind faith in his work and his part in history. What he forgets is that he unveils history, but he keeps wanting to be the person who makes it too, he has a constant crisis of professionalism.

So some proven events that worry me more below and very briefly, and IMHO are much more likely to create such things...

Election Rigging - Both Blatantly and the First time in American history. As America is meant to the leading democracy on earth this is major change in world politics.

September the 11th (whoever did it)

Biggest National Debts in History (trade deficit) of all nations on Earth, both personal and Governmental

The War in Afghanistan

The Invasion of Iraq

The isolationist, lack of paying monies owed, underminng in the media at home, and Out right Lies to the world there of the Most powerfull nation on earth to the United Nations (made worse by the isolationist slightly NeoCon new ambassador)

Genocide in Sudan (today as I write an all out war is taking place in the citoes there between Muslims and Christians and government backed rebels)

CIA trained highly armed drug dealers, with massive gang infrastructure are as we speak controlling most of the import to the USA (40% from mexico) who last week closed the US consulate are now extending their operations into the US (weak borders being infiltrated whilst a country is supposedly at War is not good!

The Shanghai Corporation starting to flex their muscles, with Russia and China squeezing out the US and moving their area of influence again to cover Iran and Central Europe US to Leave Uzbeckistan within Six Months

The Tsunami on Boxing Day - natural or man made it was very very unusual and tragic. There does seem to be some credible Indian evidense that the Indian Government does not believe it was natural but a Nuke.

Bird Flu - Flu pandemic is bad ennough in itself and it certainly is a case of when not if.... however it has been acting for several years like its is about to become a human pandemic... very very recent devolopments are evn more worryome it may have mixed in China with ebola from a botched WMD experiment

August 6th is the aniversary of hiroshima .... A known day that Osama wants the American Pearl Harbour

London Bombings First Suicide Bombers in Europe

Bali Bombings

Two gays ago a major African country had a Coupe and the current regime with links to both US and UK and also Israe, was deposed for those links. The new miltary leadership is believed from initial reports to want to Regain parts of the Sahara. A total change in Global political influence in the area.

The Iran Nuclear Issue has only just started.

Looks as if the N.Korea nuclear talks are going nowhere too.

For the first time in history American operations abroad can now be carried out by Donald Rumsfield, with no other agency involved or political oversight. Donald is building his own quite formidable army and sending them into differant parts of the world ith lots of money and GUns... to support and SET UP TERRORIST ACIVITIES IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT BENIFIT THE USA ..... like Al Queda was originally... war on terrorism whilst it is open in the press you cause and fund it!... If you think that the tricks that the CIA have pulled over the years are bad and unbelivable you just watch this space! very very very worrying.

Mt St Helens is playing up leaving scientists I quote 'puzzled'

Extreme weather around the worl at an alarming rate worst monsson ever in India NOW

3 tornadoes in Britain in one day (average 33 a year!) (3 weeks ago)

The worlds largest Piece of Ice nearly 3000 sq km fell of the Artic ice sheet.... it has been there for 300,000 years.

The fish stocks on the West coast of America is collapsing... it is similair to an el nino year but no el nino! it seems the very basis of the food chain there NOW is nearly gone (phytoplankton) and wildlfe up the chain is collapsing NOW TODAY ! (not the unvieling of the supposed ark!) Scientists think it is due to a recorded rise in sea tempratures there of 2-5 above average.

Hottest and driest day on record in the UK last month, again beating the record broken the year before, and year before etc.

Im sure if your in America you saw similair things I saw some on TV...people dying outdoor due to extreme weather (12000 died in european heatwave 3 yrs ago!)

Earthquakes...both Calif and New Zealand look very very likely for a mjor event soon.

A new planet found..... bringing all of the prophecies of the native peoples together all of them in the end times..which most have predicted with alarming accuracy... say that 'the blue star' (as some N.American indians called it.) is one of the final signs.

Warnings today from Al Queda second in command that it is going to make vietnam seem easy for the Americans and mentioned more on strikes their soon.... I think most people watching the terrorists will agree...no matter if you believe conspiracy with the government or not... the next one will be WMD based in the US

The first time in history just before the G8 the average people of the world nearly joined together as one and stood up peacefully against the Powers of the world that control us all and cause a unfair life for all of humanity. There was no way really that the G8 politicians could end the conferance without a radical change in economics and policy.... but they had a distraction.... I see this as soo bad not just the lives not now saved and the continuation of hell NOW for soo many of our brothers and sisters around the world... but once just once peace and our Humanity, Love and positivity whatever you want to call it ... GOODNESS nearly and at last overthrew the world Slave Masters....

Today estimates say that in a country that has at the request of the World Bank IMF EU and the US, followed open fair and free elections for some years. A country that in a request for aid was asked to privatise all their national utilities, that in this country 8.5 million people may starve to death in the next 3 months. LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT....A COUNTRY THAT IS A DEMOCRACY, HAS DONE EVERYTHING REQUESTED BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS...IN THAT COUNTRY 8.5 MILLION PEOPLE MAY STARVE AND ITS NOT THE DROUGHT FOOD IS IN MARKETS JUST NO MONEY!!! WHERES THE FELLOW DEMOCRACIES HELPING ? the goverments of the world knew this was happening and let it happen.

8.5 MILLION FU**ING PEOPLE ---Biblical to be a bit reserved! thats 1 Million children dying of hunger and eating grass NOW THIS VERY SECOND.

ETC ETC ETC

My point being I think this is a good thread liked the first post and agree with many of the things raised here.... But its not about Vendyl Jones or some special date, we just need to look around at the moment and what the past four five years have brought. To surmise einstein said it best:

I dont know what weapons will be used for fight WW3 but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones

If anything observing the changes and whats happening makes me want to live every second as its my last and enjoy myself... so im off out away from the PC! and chill with some flowers and sunshine

Elf Peace

Vendyl Jones is only permitted to open a small pin hole to see if there is anything inside the cavern.
There is still a strong possibility that all he may find is rubble.

To open the cavern any further, he will still need approval from the Israeli government.

With staggering precision you put into words what I could not. you get my "Way Above Vote".... Well done.

Peace

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geez MischeviousElf! you would get my wats vote if i had any left! very thorough, and you made some excellent points! as soon as i have more votes, i will vote for you!