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Originally posted by Raideur
BTW, it seems to have very sloped armor compared to modern tanks. The russians have always been crazy about making their tanks either incredibly short and small targets or giving them very sloped forward glacis plates to improve deflection. If you look at the Leopard, it has a box of a turret, which is undoubtibly using composite armor, but still lacks the shape to bounce rounds off the armor.
Originally posted by Raideur
Its just another modern MBT. If you look at the basic designs, they all look the same. This is simply Russia's first attempt to break from the old, "round and low" turret design and create something that mimics western MBTs.
Originally posted by russiankid
yea i was thinking about that the other day and i like it the round and low thing is getting old... but maybe its better for some reason
Originally posted by devilwasp
Take it the chally 2 aint considered a competitor.....?
Originally posted by SEAL Trident
I don't know much bout the Challenger 2. I even have an encyclopedia on tanks, but it doesn't give enough info 2 make me thing so. Not 2 get off the thread, but what makes it so great. Really.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Its the most heavily armoured tank in the world...
www.army.mod.uk...
My faveroute tank....
Originally posted by deltaboy
are u suuuuure? are u really suuuure? armor on present tanks are classified so u can never be sure which tank is the mostly heavily armored. could be the leopard, abrams or merkava, besides the challenger, and looking at their weight aint helping either.
Originally posted by russiankid
soooo our Eagle has second generation Chobham armour huh... thats cool! (its only cool and stuff if u r talking about the Eagle)
On vehicle protection, there are two approaches. There are up-armour packages like the Kontakt-5 EDZ. This is the heaviest explosive reactive armour (ERA) currently installed and is often referred to as 2nd generation, heavy-duty, or integral ERA. Where the conventional ERAs are only capable of defeating shaped-charge jets, Kontakt-5 can also defeat APFSDS rounds. With a fitment of Kontakt-5, long-rod penetrators can lose over 30% of their penetration potential and the protected vehicle becomes virtually immune to them (at least as "immune" as a chobham armoured tank). This type of ERA can be easily recognised as it gives the vehicle outfitted with it a distinct 'clam-shell' appearance. So, how would the main gun on an Abrams do against that? Badly, I suspect. Certainly not the “one shot, one kill” ratio that the yanks were used to in the Gulf.