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Originally posted by jimragan
So, the story is factual as reported but, he's an economist, not a structural/demo expert. Sounds like he's got an axe to grind. Or he's pushing for a book deal.
the former chief economist for the Department of Labor during Bush's first administration
subz
Also any one that has seen the collapse footage of WTC7 cannot say with a straight face that fire brought it down.
Also you bemoan conspiracy theories yet you are on a conspiracy theorist forum
Originally posted by subz
Murcielago, WTC #7 was not one of the twin towers and was not hit by any plane. It was barely on fire and imploded from the roof inwards. That was not fire my friend.
Also you bemoan conspiracy theories yet you are on a conspiracy theorist forum
[edit on 16/6/05 by subz]
Originally posted by Murcielago
subz
Also any one that has seen the collapse footage of WTC7 cannot say with a straight face that fire brought it down.
I can.
The longer a fire burns the hotter it gets
Originally posted by subz
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Also any one that has seen the collapse footage of WTC7 cannot say with a straight face that fire brought it down. Not to mention the fact that prior to 9/11 NO steel structured building had ever fallen due to fire. Not once before 9/11 and not once since.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
Yeah, WTC 7 collapsed just like the WTC 1 and 2, demolition style, if the beams indeed did get weakend, it would probably have fell over quite a bit, it collapsed a little too perfect, unless the WTC buildings had structral integrity sensors that would make explosives in the building explode or something, highly unlikely.
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Why was one of the floors on the WTC7 bldg completely armored and all that while other floors weren't?
Originally posted by toasted
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anyways , back to wtc7 , silverstein said on camera, they decided to pull the bldg.
wow ! so if in fact he just slipped and let it out that the bldg was demolitioned, he unwittingly inferred this was a planned operation, knowing that it traditionally takes weeks of planning and setting charges.
When the incident actually occurred, firefighters were pulled in from a large....
"I remember getting a call from the, uh, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'You know we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.' Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by toasted
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anyways , back to wtc7 , silverstein said on camera, they decided to pull the bldg.
wow ! so if in fact he just slipped and let it out that the bldg was demolitioned, he unwittingly inferred this was a planned operation, knowing that it traditionally takes weeks of planning and setting charges.
Could you actually provide the "entire excerpt", and a link, where Silverstein said this?
Also the other member who claimed that someone told him the WTC was dark the day/night before....it would have made the news since I am sure more than one person would have noticed this.
BTW... the term pull them out, does not mean to bring down a building, but rather to order all firefighters out of a building... This happens when the chief sees they can't save a building or when things are too hot to send firefighters into a building....
[edit on 16-6-2005 by Muaddib]
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
The explosion was a large incendiary explosion, it was not a military grade explosion, fires did not rage for that long, there was no towering inferno, infact, many people were trapped in the upper floor, they were suffocating, not burning to death, the explosion only created a large fireball from the kerosine, kerosine has a very high burning point and the fire would have little ogygen to fuel it at that altitude.
Off_the_Street made a good point that the fire could have become hotter because of all the stuff burning inside, but the lack of ogygen would not allow it to last long . . . ,
. . . Also, there has been pictures of people peering out of the cavity left by the plane, they could never have survived if there was a raging inferno.
the beams were broken up in nice chunks that could be easilly transported by trucks.
The explosion was powerful, but had no explosive power,
No one has ever claimed that the fuel air fireball caused the buildings to collapse.
it was a fireball that created little vibration, a key ingredient in making a building collapse, demolition charges use C4, these explosions create vibrations rather than fireballs, C4 would not create big fireballs like in the movies.
Who still wants to argue that the WTC wasn't an inside job? my mind is made up...
Originally posted by Muaddib
SMR....sorry to actually have to tell you this but demolition men are not firefighters.... firefighters also use the term pull...and it means to pull out of a building, to get out.....
If anyone is making a fool of themselves it is you.
[edit on 16-6-2005 by Muaddib]