Vote:How many of you believe that galactic federation exists

Earth sister might give some detailed info about them and also do you think this mexico 2004 ufo sighting acknowledged by the mexican military is a joke as it contains GF
www.paoweb.com...
can you confirm earth sister that this stroy is true.

Originally posted by warthog911
What about our creators.When would they destroy these fallen angles.It is written in the bible that there would be a fake second coming and a real second coming and the 3rd anti christ would loose.Whats your take on that?

Although bleak, the situation is not entirely without hope.

Retired Sgt. Clifford Stone stated in an interview that he thought that the Zetan-Greys would like to declare that they created Jesus/Issa (i.e., started the world's religions), etc. As I have stated before in this forum, in order for them to pull that off, they would have to be able to manifest telekinetic miracles of food creation and healing. They can't do these things with their advanced machines, as all physically based machines, no matter how sophisticated, have certain fundamental limitations. For example, contrary to the propaganda of brainwashed abductees, Zetans do not have teleportation technology. If they did, then I would not have been able to avoid getting abducted.

The one chink in the seemingly impenetrable Zetan technological armor is that they are not spiritual beings. In order to truly create matter of any kind -- as well as manifest advanced teleportation -- and to be able to do so on an individual basis in The Light after bodily death, one has to cultivate a very high degree of spiritual development through years of daily Heart Chakra Radiance.

That is the solution. To evolve into becoming -- as the Mormon religion and other faiths espouse as being possible -- Co-Creators of Light.

With adequately stable, telekinetically skilled and Ascended Co-Creators, it would be a situation of NO CONTEST and one that is actually in favor of Terran independence. For a prophetic illustration of this, see the CST episode called Errand of Mercy.

Then and only then will the vast edge in technology and industry of the Zetan Empire be overcome



[edit on 7-6-2005 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by jumpspace
May exist, may not...

I once got an Elite SAS guy to look into something called "The Travellers Society" as I once "accidently" got into into "someones" computer on the Net and, well, the SAS guy came back quite scared and basically told me he "doesn't want to go there"...gave me the file then I didn't hear from him again

Maybe this what you were talking about. I found this web site below that is connected to the Glactic Travelers Aid Society.

vgap.net...

There is also a link to a hilarious group of road and business signage that is not to be missed. But as far as Travelers, this is about as close as you will get to galactic or out-of-this-world travelers.





[edit on 6/7/2005 by lightseeker]

may I be so bold as to add...


Regarding a 'War of the Worlds' scenario, one theory has it that it has already occurred here about fourteen thousand years ago. The Atlanteans attempted their own "War of Independence" against the Zetan Empire...and lost. The Zetans retaliated with a nuclear attack that was so horrific that it not only destroyed the Atlantean civilization but also caused The Great Flood (which is documented in various ancient cultures) and the tilting of this world on its axis.

is it too much to ask that you either back up your claims or present it as a theory ?


here is some context to 14,000 years ago
www.wwnorton.com...

10,000-6,000 Shift from Hunter Gatherer to food producer in some areas (West Asia initially, Egypt by 6,000)

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
may I be so bold as to add...

Regarding a 'War of the Worlds' scenario, one theory has it that it has already occurred here about fourteen thousand years ago. The Atlanteans attempted their own "War of Independence" against the Zetan Empire...and lost. The Zetans retaliated with a nuclear attack that was so horrific that it not only destroyed the Atlantean civilization but also caused The Great Flood (which is documented in various ancient cultures) and the tilting of this world on its axis.

is it too much to ask that you either back up your claims or present it as a theory?

Keep in mind that a "fact" is only a theory that is accepted by a group of people. Many consider Creationism to be a fact. Others consider Evolutionism to be a fact and teach it as such.

My above appraisal was derived through research, analysis, logical extrapolation and intuition. To you it is a theory; to me it is a fact.

Actually, I like the word...hypothesis.

Atlantis existed. Ancient Indian references and Plato confirm that it did. A civilization that is known to have weapons that can level a city and that had an unparalleled military machine for its day: does not simply vanish. Something horrific must have caused its extinction. Earthquake and volcanic activity would not have been enough. The Atlantean Empire was spread out all over the planet. Only a horrific war with a superior power could have ended the Atlantean civilization, which is precisely what happened.

We know in part from the archaeological work of Zecharia Sitchin in deciphering ancient Sumerian and Akkadian clay tablets, that a group of extraterrestrials came here hundreds of thousands of years ago, and mixed their DNA with the "already evolving primates" or hominids in order to come up with a slave race to work the mines. As such, Homo sapien life was jump-started by Zetan-Reptilians -- who the Sumerians referred to as Anunnaki (or Those Who From Heaven To Earth Came).

The Zetans have been here before the beginning of our current civilization and even at the time of Atlantis they represented the superior technological power in the Sol System

So it is a logical conclusion that the unstoppable Atlantean civilization that could level cities with their weapons was conquered and destroyed by the much more formidable Zetan Space Race Empire -- as they are the only ones who could have done it.

Atlantean refugees took what machines that had left and went around the world to build monolithic structures that would last for thousands of years, in testament to their lost civilization. That is why the pyramids in Egypt and the Americas are of the same basic design, as the engineers were of the same ilk.

Edgar Cayce predicted that a chamber would be found underneath the front paws of The Great Sphinx. A seismograph confirmed that there is indeed a chamber exactly where Cayce said it would be. Cayce also said that in that chamber there would be a record of Atlantis. Egyptian authorities will not allow anyone to unearth the ancient chamber but it is there nonetheless.

There is more evidence that I could go into but that is enough for now.



[edit on 7-6-2005 by Paul_Richard]

I'm Sorry , but Plato writting a story based on hearsay ,... Dare I say , not a fact!

Originally posted by lost_shaman
I'm Sorry , but Plato writting a story based on hearsay ,... Dare I say , not a fact!

There are lots of stories that many accept as fact. Again, that is a matter of opinion.

Plato was quoting a legend that he heard from an older family member. Traditions in those days were often passed down from one generation to the other in the form of spoken stories. These formed the foundation of many myths. It just so happens that the myth of Atlantis is more than just heresy, as it is corroborated from other sources, some of which I mentioned; like, for example, the ancient Indian epics called The Mahabharata and the Drona Parva.

You do know that fiction also quite popular , even back then and before Plato's times.

If you look at writtings in Greece around Plato's time , and before you'll find that there were alot of very popular fiction writers back then .

I don't recall off hand exactly where , but there was a discovery recently in an ancient dump ground that effectivly dubbled the body of novels and fiction we have from those times.



[edit on 7-6-2005 by lost_shaman]

hey paul,


"Keep in mind that a "fact" is only a theory that is accepted by a group of people. Many consider Creationism to be a fact. Others consider Evolutionism to be a fact and teach it as such.

My above appraisal was derived through research, analysis, logical extrapolation and intuition. To you it is a theory; to me it is a fact."


one persons belief (ok, a dozen) makes it a hypothesis, as you state, it cannot be considered a fact at this point. All I was asking was that you either back up those claims or call it what is is, a hypothesis.

Originally posted by warthog911
Anyways i find it hard to believe as if Gf was true then there woud be no third anti christ,no fake alien or real alien invasion and no second comming.It would mean the the bible flopped and we can change our fate and destiny which imo is impossible as astrology proves everyting is already written.

And how do you "know" that astrology "proves" everything is already written?

I'd like this "proof" explained please.

If something like it really is out there.... I doubt we'll EVER belong to it. We can't seem to get our own defecation coagulated. Even if we do venture to the other planets someday ... the second the colonies can live independent of mother earth ... they’ll thumb their nose at the PTBs here and start their own separate and distinct government. We're just too prone to sectarianism. Unity? With each other? With an alien race? With a federation of alien races? It'll never happen. Not in our present state of conditioning....

Originally posted by warthog911
Earth sister might give some detailed info about them and also do you think this mexico 2004 ufo sighting acknowledged by the mexican military is a joke as it contains GF
www.paoweb.com...
can you confirm earth sister that this stroy is true.

Hi, warthog.

I can't confirm that this Mexico UFO story is true because I don't have personal, inside knowledge of it, but it looks real to me.

Since this thread started about me by name, this is just to clarify what some are deciding what is real or not about what I understand from my own experience:

218 races/worlds visiting Earth from close by in our own galaxy. These are our closest neighbors.

Over 5200 advanced races/worlds in our union of five galaxies, plus a few more throughout who are not advanced yet, like us.

The alien races refer to this contingency of five galaxies as "The Intergalactic Union" but the name doesn't really matter. There is only one union here, and countless more unions beyond, throughout the countless Universes.

The organization of races that are visiting Earth is complete now-- all of our visiting races work together for the same efforts. The organization is responsible for the ending of both abductions of humans by alien life and of hybrid programs as of April 2000. The abducting races who would not comply have been permanently dismissed from visiting Earth. All appropriate alien contact of human beings is still going on, increasing steadily, and consensual.

Believe whatever suits you and don't take my word for it, I don't mind. But keep watching the sky and if you get the chance to meet the aliens, go for it.







[edit on 6/7/2005 by EarthSister]

I always enjoy reading your posts. They make me feel hope instead of doom and gloom.

~Remember the key is love~

Even so EarthSister what is the remaining members goal with us in mind. Why not show face rather then slink around and have masses speculate what is going on or be totally clueless. Sounds kind of shady for a group of benevolent invaders.


-Aza

That one was for you Earthsister!!! You rock!!!



Goddess

I do know there exists a lot of different names to describe their alien congregations so to speak.None the less there is a lot of space out there.They know how to approach a situation.They know what level of attainment we are capable of reaching.But then again look how far the human species has come from the beginning of time.There are a lot of them that want our shift in consciouness to take place because then they can also shift too.A lot depends on our open minds to expand our awareness.And I think Earthsister is dong a wonderful job at keeping us informed on what is to come with our intergalactic brothers and sisters.

Originally posted by Azathoth
Even so EarthSister what is the remaining members goal with us in mind. Why not show face rather then slink around and have masses speculate what is going on or be totally clueless. Sounds kind of shady for a group of benevolent invaders.

So true Aza...so true.

Originally posted by Annanuki Goddess
I always enjoy reading your posts. They make me feel hope instead of doom and gloom.

~Remember the key is love~

Originally posted by menguard
A lot depends on our open minds to expand our awareness.And I think Earthsister is dong a wonderful job at keeping us informed on what is to come with our intergalactic brothers and sisters.

Thank you Goddess and menguard and all who respect all the different opinions and experiences we post on ATS! It is always nice for all of us to be appreciated. Belief is just another option throughout this subject yet and that should not stop us from speaking up.

We hear every human's opinion, but the aliens' point of view is imperative. Everyone needs to be free to speak, free to explore the information and free to make up our own minds, both from govt control and from each other.

I agree to keep an open mind but that still doesn't say what the agenda is. What is the point of this union if the general populace is totally clueless? Does that not just sound a little suspicious to you? If the union wants peace then I suggest that they prove their motive. When a person is being held hostage the first way to establish trust is to show them open arms with no weapons. Actually that sign itself is universal for trust. Animals seems to understand if you are holding something that is threating but if you come at them where they can see your hands they tend to be a bit more relaxed.

So if you by any chance know any of them things, tell them to be open. Otherwise I'm gonna have a new pair of grey slippers with black eyes


-Aza