Martyn Stubbs Secret NASA Transmissions

Het Guys,

I don't know how many of you guys have seen the underground DVD Secret NASA Transmissions the smoking gun made by a vancouver cable manager made for some really interesting viewing mostly about 2 types of phenomena

1)Spheres
2)Dancing Lights in space

to me personally they are exactly what he said they were phenomena nothing particularly ET about them in my opinion just something that needs more study
is this guy Martin Stubbs taken seriously in the UFO community the last thing i heard him do was a visit to Leeds University a few years back nothing recently

the transmissions between the astronauts/cosmanauts and ground control made excellent viewing to

anyone got any opinions on this?

link to the DVD

theufostore.com... ox

I watched that a while back and while I thought it very interesting I also agree it didn't seem to have an ET connection in the sense of most Ufology. I don't think the video was trying to suggest there was either. Just saying "Hey this is interesting" really.

Having said that, it was fascinating, and also kind of exciting to think that it is not a completely empty void up there whatever these anomalies turn out to be. Space "insects" maybe? Micro-micro-meteors? Alien surveilance probes? A trick of the light? Lol, who knows? But the second lot sure zipped around pretty quick.

Is interesting how conventional thought changes. Recently I read reports about "dark matter" and how there is more in space than previously thought. This just adds to that whole theme. Space may be a pretty active place after all and not that empty either.

Hi Mate,

yep definately phenomena of some kind could possible be micro meteors zipping around after all theres got to be space debris,crystals, meteor rocks of some kind floating about can't be all just black space LOL.

Graham

I saw the video, and was struck by the fact that the second phenomenon is sinilar to what astronauts describe happens when they close their eyes, attributed to cosmic rays.... any thoughts?

When it first came out years ago, I watched it almost every night for almost a month. Some of the phenomena have a greater likelihood of being UFO/extraterrestrial than others. Obviously, the tether incident and the UFO darting away after the flash (I forget the number of the STS mission) have a stronger case of being extraterrestrial than say the brief flashes of light Stubbs showed from footage taken inside the space shuttle and Mir.

Having said all that, he (and people like him) certainly made NASA nervous enough to do something about it.

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The link seems to be disabled. Did type the wrong web address? Thanks.

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You do realize this thread is over 3 years old don't you?

There are actually 2 different DVDs, both now only available second hand.

The Secret NASA Transmissions: 'The Smoking Gun' [2000]
This is a long interview with Martyn Stubbs, with a little footage thrown in.

The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Raw Footage
This one is probably the one you want if you are after the footage

Try Ebay too, but chances are it will be a lower quality copy.

[edit on 15-2-2009 by C.H.U.D.]

I've been trying to get in contact with Martyn Stubbs after seeing him in a Paranormal TV episode. I wanted to tell him the light streaks are most likely cosmic rays hitting the video sensor of the camera. That would also explain why some are red and some are green. More expensive video sensors have prisms which split the image onto separate red, green, and blue chips and the image is merged electronically. This is especially true for low-light cameras. It would explain why they are very fast and very short. My other thought was an artifact on the VHS tape he was using, but the cosmic rays make more sense. He can even verify this by sending a video camera (or several) up in a balloon into the higher atmosphere and recording.

This would also explain the flashes of light the astronauts see too. Read about Anatoli Bugorski who saw flashes of light when his head was struck by a proton beam in a Soviet particle accelerator.
en.wikipedia.org...

Please pass it on to him.


[edit on 4-6-2009 by starrychloe]

Originally posted by Graham
Het Guys,

I don't know how many of you guys have seen the underground DVD Secret NASA Transmissions the smoking gun made by a vancouver cable manager made for some really interesting viewing mostly about 2 types of phenomena

First of all this is not an underground DVD Graham, it was produced and distributed
by the british UFO Magazine / Graham Birdsall in 2000, released on the IUFOC the
same year and promoted even on Pay per View. Martyn Stubbs was associated
producer with Birdsall at that time but short before Martyn Stubbs was associated
with researcher and producer David Sereda and planned to produce the commercial
DVD but their association ended in a dispute, got it? So nothing underground, leaked
or whatever you may suggest, just a commercial DVD.

By the way this association with the UFO Magazine ended with the tragic death of
Graham Birdsall and the disappearance of the magazine.


[edit on 4-6-2009 by free_spirit]

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I've just watched the whole video & interview with Stubbs on google video... some interesting footage that i've never seen before... especially all the U'O's flying around the Satellite... some of it was definately rocks, space debris & stars but what of the rest of it?

What about the shot of all the spheres above Earth? There were a lot of them... they say Ice Particles... anyone an expert on Ice Particles? How they move? What altitude they could stay at without melting?

My theory is that we all know Gravity attracts objects, so the bigger the ISS gets the more gravitational force is expels, what we could be seeing is Space Debris, Meteoric Debris being attracted to the ISS through Gravity, NASA doesnt want to publish the risks of having tonnes of orbital Debris coming towards the ISS so they merely shrug it off.

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You could have a point there with gravitational pull... i didn't think of that but have you seen the video? The interview with Stubbs?

Originally posted by ROBL240
My theory is that we all know Gravity attracts objects, so the bigger the ISS gets the more gravitational force is expels, what we could be seeing is Space Debris, Meteoric Debris being attracted to the ISS through Gravity, NASA doesnt want to publish the risks of having tonnes of orbital Debris coming towards the ISS so they merely shrug it off.

Does the ISS have a gravitational pull? The answer is yes.

Could that gravitational pull have an effect? If an object passes close to the ISS, it seems possible the gravitational pull could impart a deflection to the orbit of the passing object.

Is the ISS attracting distant objects toward it with it's gravitational pull? Well the answer to this question is about the same as if you hold your arm out and drop a penny, does the penny fall toward the earth? Or does the earth fall toward the penny? It's a trick question, because the answer is not one or the other, it's both. But since the Earth is so much more massive than the penny, we tend to disregard such an extremely insignificant effect.

I think the gravitational effect of the ISS is similarly quite small if you are trying to imagine distant objects traveling 20,000 mph converging toward it based on its gravity. Gravity is a very weak force which at most might create a small deflection on a passing satellite, is my thought.

Also, if NASA doesn't want to publish risks of collisions, why was it so easy to find what NASA has said about that when I did a search on that:

Space Junk Forcing More Evasive Maneuvers

April 28, 2009

American spacecraft had to dodge space debris four times in 2008, NASA revealed Tuesday, a fact that highlights both the extent of the space junk problem and the primary mitigation option open to NASA.

By tracking pieces of debris larger than around four inches, space engineers can identify some dangerous space junk and meteoroids. If a satellite or spacecraft is in danger of getting hit, they simply move it out of harm’s way. The International Space Station, for example, had to make an evasive maneuver back in August 2008, to avoid a piece of an old Russian craft.

“On average, Shuttle and ISS have conducted several collision avoidance maneuvers over the past ten years on the order of about one per year,” said Nicholas Johnson, chief scientist at NASA’s Orbital Debris Program Office, in a teleconference with reporters ahead of a House subcommittee on space and aeronautics meeting about space debris.

Space debris is an increasing problem. Johnson noted that from the 1960s until the past year, orbital debris had increased linearly, despite advances in decreasing the amount of debris left behind per trip to space. But recently, a Chinese missile test on a satellite and the collision of two satellites in orbit, sent the amount of space debris up considerably. The satellite collision alone increased the risk to the upcoming May shuttle mission to the Hubble Space Telescope by 8 percent.

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Messing up Earth.... now making a mess of Space.....

Yes,

I have just watched the dvd and was curious to know more about Martyn Stubbs and found this website. I see that this video does have a large audience and who has reviewed the video here. So I signed up and wish to express my own ideas and opinions.

My first (let me just emphasize this) impression about the second space phenomenon was "NANOTECH". Based on both the events on the video and my own interpretation of them, I instantly thought of tiny robots zipping around doing tasks, controlled by something or by their own volition, I am not sure. I will not claim to know this, obviously because I cannot, yet for the studies I have done already, I am simply comparing behaviors here and am observing quite intelligent characteristics.

I am simply floored by all of this, the increased activity that seems to be going on around us, what with implants found in people, strange "Alien" technologies that are emerging from our own society, the increased reports and footage of ufo's and, most importantly, crop formations, which fascinate even more than any other of the phenomenon.

It's in these formations that I believe we are dealing with another civilisation(s), certainly far more advanced than us, wishing to "dance" with us, warming us up for an imminent contact. Are we ready? Perhaps not, but their is definitely a courtship happening here between us and them. I would love to know that we would finally be able to know for sure, that there are others out there and that, just like in history, we would be able to partner with our galactic neighbors, set sail across the sea of space, looking for the "new world."

It is unfortunate, that the powers that be here on earth would keep this from us for so long. What are they SOOOO afraid of? I would be more afraid of being stuck here with the pollution and so on, than to have the opportunity to seek out solutions that may help us preserve our planet, and our race! I'M SURE SOMEONE OUT THERE HAS SOME ANSWERS AND ARE WILLING TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE, STRENGTH AND HOPE WITH US! Their is nothing to fear in contact.

Originally posted by dckent

I have just watched the dvd and was curious to know more about Martyn Stubbs and found this website. I see that this video does have a large audience and who has reviewed the video here. So I signed up and wish to express my own ideas and opinions.

Well just SHOUT Maybe Martyn will hear you

OR you could go to his channel on youtube

www.youtube.com...

OR you could just send him a private message (U2U) as secretnasaman

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OK, cool, thanks for that. It is nice to be able to connect personally with some of these folks. I have watched a number of docs and other programs and am highly interested in asking questions and exchanging theories with those people. Thanks again...

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
“On average, Shuttle and ISS have conducted several collision avoidance maneuvers over the past ten years on the order of about one per year,” said Nicholas Johnson, chief scientist at NASA’s Orbital Debris Program Office,

The PROBLEM with NASA is they are so out of touch with the REAL space program...

Why don't they just ask the Air Force for a few laser cannons and just have some fun?

it is really funny, if not sad, that many of the things posted by Stubbs in his NASA recordings, and seen as UFO's are just garbage (take it literarlly, "debris" is the appropiate name).



[edit on 23/9/09 by depthoffield]

If you get a chance to watch the DVD rather than an internet version I highly recommend it.

Forget what anybody says about it just beg, borrow, steal, rent or buy a DVD and take a look and make your own decisions.

Particularly I did a frame by frame pan & zoom of the airlock door latch incident and the results were rather startling. I saw things that were not even discussed in the video. Not to mention the astronauts in another airlock incident discussion another strange object in the airlock itself.