Exercise is overrated?

In an unfortunate case of "man bites dog" news story, 57 year old Broc Bebout dies of a heart attack after completing a 2,400 mile bike trek from Carlsbad, California to Brunswick, Georgia. While riding in the back seat of the van taking him home, Broc suffered the fatal heart attack. He started a regimen of exercise after quadruple bypass surgery when he was only 39 years old. Score one for genetic predisposition, I'm in the healthcare industry and I see both sides of the fence, those who never make the right health choices, and still live a normal life, and those that take every beneficial measure and still have chronic, sometimes fatal illnesses. Some genetic models are just a little more stable than others, hence the propensity for some diseases to run in families (cancer, heart disease), and the anecdotes about my great uncle who lived to be 98 smoking two packs a day and drinking a fifth of Jack (everyone in the South is related to this guy). I wish more practitioners (and some of the special interest groups, and the government) would be a little more honest, not everyone is "built" to live to 100 years of age.

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Man, one more thing I can throw at everyone who berates me for smoking too much, drinking too much, and not getting off my dead end often enough I've always believed exercise and a good diet was unhealthy; now I have a little more proof. Thanks

Originally posted by MCory1
I've always believed exercise and a good diet was unhealthy; now I have a little more proof. Thanks

OOOOOOOOkay.

Is the bottom line that genetics dictates health?

That being said, if you progenators suffered from any type of terminal illness, it would be advised to live a cleaner lifestyle?

Hey as long as you look good naked who cares right?


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Living a healthy lifestyle is healthy for you......

Eating right and exercise are healthy for you and will increase you lifespan.
And even if your life is not increased you will still feel better,

I have been smoke free for 3 weeks now, the first week was hell but now I notice a huge diff, especially when I run.

Are you denying that smoking increases the chances of lung cancer?

Exercise is awesome, it helps you to look good, feel great, and perform great.

[edit on 2/5/2005 by SportyMB]

Originally posted by Mirthful Me
I wish more practitioners (and some of the special interest groups, and the government) would be a little more honest, not everyone is "built" to live to 100 years of age.

I agree. And this relates to my plan to "fix" social security by decriminalizing hard drugs.

Or at least lowering cigarette taxes.

Raising the BAC and speed limits would help too.

Lower the average life expectancy today, vote Libertarian!!!

Originally posted by Lysergic
Hey as long as you look good naked who cares right?

OK, what if you look like this?

Originally posted by SportyMB
Are you denying that smoking increases the chances of lung cancer?

Of course not, and I really appreciate those that smoke (provided it's not around me) it has ensured financial stability for me.

Exercise is awesome, it helps you to look great, feel great, and perform great.

I'll agree with that as well, just not the notion that it is a "cure all." Health is not guaranteed by exercising, you've just increased the odds, nothing more.

i think the point is that with genitics, who's to say what's healthy for who. With certian chemicles i've breathed a pack of smokes like fresh air with no crap to cough up the next morning. Somthing in the brain can shift elements, ... i belive.

Originally posted by RANT


I agree.

And this relates to my plan to "fix" social security by decriminalizing hard drugs.

Or at least lowering cigarette taxes.

Raising the BAC and speed limits would help too.

Lower the average life expectancy today, vote Libertarian!!!

I am Libertarian, and well, I happen to agree. The govornment has no right to enforce good health on people.

If people are left to freely abuse their bodies, sure, they will live shorter life spans. As far as Im concerned, thats a personal issue, not a governemnt one. People have the right to self destruct, and I support it. Its population control and natural selection, helping to weed out self destructive tendancies. And the govornment has no right to enforce good health upon individuals.

Those who care about their health, in a nice Libertarian society, will pursue it. They will look better, live longer, get more dates and mate more frequently, thus helping to propogate healthier individuals. Politics stay out, and let Darwin run his course.

I don't feel exercise is overrated. Nothing disgusts me more more than a fat body. Its a sign of laziness and stupidity. There is no excuse for being fat, and many of the people who claim genetics are using it as an excuse, as a very tiny number of fatties are actually victims of genetics. 95% of lard asses are the products of laziness and over consumption, and I treat such people with the contempt they deserve!

No excuse for being fat! Eat sanely, and get off your butt more! Ditch the boob tube, it turns your brain into the same fat, goey mess your body becomes. Stop using the car for short distances, start cooking and eating meals instead of pre processed garbage. It doesnt take any signifigant time to prepare, are will often taste better.

Originally posted by RANT
I agree.

And this relates to my plan to "fix" social security by decriminalizing hard drugs.

Or at least lowering cigarette taxes.

Raising the BAC and speed limits would help too.

Lower the average life expectancy today, vote Libertarian!!!

Ahh, this is turning into a political thread I see. Well, perhaps you would like to show me where libertarians would like to raise the BAC and speed limits? You can't, can you... You know why, because this is not a national issue.

Plus, guess what, Clint Eastwood is a libertarian, that's the epitome of sui juris, at least in movie form.

Live in an open prison today, vote Democrat!!!

[edit on 2-5-2005 by Jamuhn]

Originally posted by Jamuhn
Live in an open prison today, vote Democrat!!!

Well thanks for that. What about the rest of us that aren't American?

A thread about health gets turned into a mondo-dismo.

Figure out what movie that came from. It was an American movie.

What are you tlaking about?
The Gov't does not control our lifestyle when it comes how
healthy we chose to be or how much we exercise.
With the exception of tobacco taxes and drug laws.

They warn us, post labels and make useless commercials that use up our hard earned dollars!!(WHAT A WASTE)

Anyways, other than that, how do they conrol out healthy/unhealthy lifestyles?

Im not being sarcastic, I really wanna know

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
I am Libertarian, and well, I happen to agree. The govornment has no right to enforce good health on people.

Possibly a great way to save Social Security... I mean, if you are dead, the need for extended payments is alleviated, and the system remains solvent... Long live FDR!

Retirement Monkeys, not just for "senior discounts" anymore...

You want the Libertarian Party platform on social security, let's try researching shall we?

Libertarians believe you should be able to opt out of Social Security and invest your money in your own personal retirement account. An account that you own and control - one that politicians can't get their hands on.

Republicans and Democrats say it can't be done - that your Social Security taxes are needed to pay benefits to today's retirees. Instead of letting you invest in your own future, they want you to have faith that someone else will pay your benefits when it comes time for you to retire.

Although most won't admit it publicly, their "solutions" to the Social Security crises all come down to some combination of tax increases and benefit cuts.

www.lp.org...

Now, let's see what crazy ideas can we attribute to the Republican Party? I know, ooo, Bush Is A Repubbbliccannnn...scarrrry.

By the way Intrepid, I don't know what mondo-dismo means and I'm just responding to ensure an equal representation for Libertarians.

I agree that healthy living and exercise is overrated, a lot of people live to an old age smoking and drinking for years, i think some people have a gene that protects the person from the abuse of chemicals. Perhaps the scientists ought to find this gene and make it available to the health service , then they can save money telling us all to stop doing things.

Originally posted by intrepid
A thread about health gets turned into a mondo-dismo.

Figure out what movie that came from. It was an American movie.

Romancing the Stone? I'd rather be romancing one of these 22 year olds that can't keep their hands of my ancient simian butt. SoCal rocks!

There’s a health plan that will lead to a heart attack.

Playboy Monkeys, not just for hedonistic excess anymore...

This thread got funny quick. Sad thing is I was being serious.

Okay don't vote Libertarian. Live forever. What do I care?

It's not like we have a choice. The "culture of life" will have all us future vegetables hooked up to a Tom DeathDeLay 3000 one day using our brain electricity to generate power for the third world infrastructure we're currently nation building anyway.

Originally posted by RANT
Okay don't vote Libertarian. Live forever. What do I care?

If you consider the motto, Live Free or Die, then being a libertarian would make one more likely to die younger. Both pubs and dems want your power and sovereignty for themselves.

And this fits into exercise how?

Soon, we will all be herded into exercise camps so as to be physically fit for the forced breeding programs overseen by the Head Reptilian Queen herself. Sex with reptiles....*shivers*