Why is their no Ancient Civilization in North America?

I have also recently read some material by a researcher that postulates that asians might have evolved in north american from the first people to come here and migrated back into asia 10k years ago.
He makes this claim based on the fact that at sites all through china going back 25k years there is no idication in the remains that the people were in fact asiatic.
In fact the oldest site that has remains with a distinctively asiatic skeletal morphology is just 7000 years old and is in alaska.

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Now that would be a cool theory. The ancestors of the asians could be the mesoamericans. Remember the ancient skull they found in a deep underwater cave system in mexico of a south eastern asian woman?

The Chinese and Mayan writing structure are both vertical. You would assume the writing system with real pictures would be the oldest. That would be the Mayan/Olmec.

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No thats not the idea,
the ancestors of both were the first big game hunters to cross from asia.
The bearing land brigde wasnt always open.
So after a northern asian population migrated to NA they were isloated by the closing of the land bridge.
And physical adaptations to a meat specific diet and arctic living that started before they made the trip were re enforced by an isolated breeding population.

The researcher was right about the Chinese migrating from Alaska but they were only passing thru from the south and he got it wrong on how many years a go this took place and from where in North America they originated.

Contrary to what you have read, have been told and lead to believe the oldest civilizations in the world originated in North America. This will all come out in 2012 and will be hard for most to comprehend.


Where is the proof? There is plenty of proof coming in the near future. ^Y^

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Many of the amazing peoples of the past can still be visited today.
Just go to Foxwood, or Mohegan Sun to name a few.

(There casinos, so I am joking..ha?)

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Punkinworks, I guess that sounds more reasonable if the first homosapiens truly came out of Africa.

Amari, I see you sided with me on my theory. I see it's nothing new. I can't wait to see what happens in 2012.

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There is a great documentary called The Sun Dagger which is narrated by Robert Redford. It is about Chaco Canyon and the ancient calendar that is found there and how it becomes a more significant find than Stonehenge.

www.bullfrogfilms.com...

www.angelfire.com...

And Joseph Campbell is interviewed in this film - he discusses the simplicity and complexity of artifacts from ancient civilizations. We may be walking passed buried pyramids and planted forests and we don't know it or recognize clues when they're right in front of us, because we're told that our history is linear.

I think that the most telling phrase of the cycles of civilization is...

The New World

It just cracks me up. Like New Car or something, and yet in school we are told that "civilization" got here as recently as 1492.

And that Native Americans go back only to 800 AD

And that the Olmecs - with their HUGE buried heads are the oldest of the New World. And no matter how diverse these African and Mongolian and Pacific Islander sculptures - preserved, monumental effigies to humanity are, we insist on teaching they came over the bearing straights.


Whatever

Originally posted by supafresh
I’ve been puzzled by this for along time now.. You read and see on the new archeologists are finding older and older civilizations in the Asian and European parts of the world. This all got me thinking. Why isn’t there anything hiding in the remote parts of the United States.

Obviously we wont find Atlantis under Newark new jersey but my question is.

Are the Indians the only inhabitants of America?

Did the Indians ever reference any other existing people before them?

Could there be Indian cave paintings that may lead to such a discovery?

read 'lost cities of north and central america' by david childress. available from amazon.com.

mystery hill- 'america's stonehenge' - lots of these stone structures similar to uk/ireland - not built by indians.
gungywamp
dolmen
beehive huts
other stone structures
cahokia and other pyramid mound cultures all over nth america
mesa verde/chaco canyon civilsz that irrigated/altered landscape
some us ones had ballcourts like the mexicans did
giant skeletons/mummies with red hair in mounds and caves all over nth america - mostly discovered/dug up in 1800s then 'lost' by the smithsonian... read dumped in the atlantic or in a basement somewhere..
indians have legends of their tribes fighting giants
fossilized giants also found there.
vikings were there - runestones in nth america.
etc.

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Originally posted by supafresh
I’ve been puzzled by this for along time now.. You read and see on the new archeologists are finding older and older civilizations in the Asian and European parts of the world. This all got me thinking. Why isn’t there anything hiding in the remote parts of the United States.

Obviously we wont find Atlantis under Newark new jersey but my question is.

Are the Indians the only inhabitants of America?

Did the Indians ever reference any other existing people before them?

Could there be Indian cave paintings that may lead to such a discovery?

read 'lost cities of north and central america' by david childress.

mystery hill- 'america's stonehenge' - lots of these stone structures similar to uk/ireland - not built by indians.
gungywamp
dolmen
beehive huts
other stone structures
cahokia and other pyramid mound cultures all over nth america
mesa verde/chaco canyon civilsz that irrigated/altered landscape
some us ones had ballcourts like the mexicans did
giant skeletons/mummies with red hair in mounds and caves all over nth america - mostly discovered/dug up in 1800s then 'lost' by the smithsonian... read dumped in the atlantic or in a basement somewhere..
indians have legends of their tribes fighting giants
fossilized giants also found there.
vikings were there - runestones in nth america.
etc.

Originally posted by TheDemonHunter

Originally posted by timoothy
there are plenty of other civilizations that a certain institute does not want you to know about. For instance ,back in the thirties there was a man that went down the colorado river on a expedition sponsered by the smithsonian ,and what he found was amazing.Egyptian artifacts in a cave were found that the textboo0ks say should not have been there.

Plenty of others

To the best of my knowledge, this article you speak of (from 1909, I believe) had been later revealed to be a hoax, based on articles coming out of Egypt at the time. I cannot find any sites to verify this however, so we'll have to keep looking into it. Personally, I wouldn't find it terribly difficult to believe that there was some sort of cover-up, if only I could see a motive to do so.

motive; well, they probly wudnt want too many advanced civs to have existed on nth america, becuz they wanted to claim the land off the indians - they rounded them up and put them on reservations... the more advanced civiliz there were there, the harder to dismiss indian claims to the country...

also, egyptians in the grand canyon might cause too many people to question their history. and they dont want that. nor should you ask any questions about all the giant skeletons and mummies that have been dug up. or about underground tunnels known by the indians to criss cross norht america.

dont ask any questions, whatever you do. just continue to accept whatever you're told by those who are lying to us every day... and dont ask why either.

mystery hill

here's a mystery hill site. bad photos and doesnt give you any idea of the huge scale and extent of this site but its a start. i guess you can google or buy childress's book for more info..

dont believe the hoax claims, they're ridiculous. and the farmer who discovered the site (and was accused of archaeologists of building it himself - on his spare weekends - with his four sons - who later turned out to be daughters - and the carbon dates preceeded his appearance - but what the hey, dont let truth interfere with a good story) must have been a very busy man cuz there's plenty of other similar sites all over north america that are being ignored by archaeologists. he must have been building stuff everywhere and had an amazing knowledge of how similar structures in the uk and ireland were built. i take my hat off to him, really i do.

of course its impossible and ludicrous to think that vikings or the irish managed to sail a boat to norht america and build this stuff. nooooooo.... come on people.... its got to be a HOAX OF COURSE!!!!!!...