Biden pardons his son Hunter despite previous pledges not to

The structural intent behind the legal action defined as a "pardon" at the time the Constitution was framed is most critical in determining the validity of its application. In the 18th century, a pardon was designed for forgiving one crime one person was convicted of and typically already serving the sentence for it, and any directly associated misdemeanors.

a reply to: tkwaz

Well, surprise...surprise. Biden is doing exactly what he and the rest of them, including the legacy media, said Trump would do. From ignoring the SCOTUS on student loans to perverting the pardon power. Let's see if this pardon of Hunter and possibly his brother and who knows who else are challenged if there are crimes considered treasonous unearthed.

Pardons, however, may not be issued in cases of impeachment or if it is an "offense against the United States," such as treason.

let's not forget, they tried to have Trump assassinated.

Looks like the pardon Biden has provided for Hunter has already rattled the deep state...

Disgraced Ex-FBI Chief Andrew McCabe Panics: Fears of ‘Conspiracy Theories’ Over Hunter Biden’s 2014 Pardon Scandal

this seems to be a developing story

I cannot wait to hear what Comey and Barry have to say.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

They are now wishing they had forced Joe Biden out of office using the disability clause.

Americans would have agreed with it then, but not now.

Democrat leaders are stupid.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

They are now wishing they had forced Joe Biden out of office using the disability clause.

Americans would have agreed with it then, but not now.

Democrat leaders are stupid.

Hubris is the best word to describe them because they really should have been able to win, having all the legacy media and 90 plus percent of the tech companies along with Hollywood and the majority of entertainers from song, dance and sport. It is actually quite remarkable Trump won, you might even say miraculous.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
Whenever someone says Joe Biden is/was a man of integrity,

Just show them this: www.whitehouse.gov...

They're keeping up the Democrat criminal traditions of lying, cheating, tangents, and false equivalencies to keep Public Opinions stupefied. 😄

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

originally posted by: WeMustCare
Whenever someone says Joe Biden is/was a man of integrity,

Just show them this: www.whitehouse.gov...

Did Joe Biden and his legal team screw this up like Joe screwed up everything else he has ever been involved with? It sure looks that way.
sounds like Joe screwed up

Oh that's deluxe!! ❗️😀

originally posted by: tkwaz
Future crimes not yet discovered or sentenced for do not exist in the court system and legal realm. To apply a pardon to that which does not exist is a "divide by zero" invalid application of the action.

The structural intent behind the legal action defined as a "pardon" at the time the Constitution was framed is most critical in determining the validity of its application. In the 18th century, a pardon was designed for forgiving one crime one person was convicted of and typically already serving the sentence for it, and any directly associated misdemeanors.

Lots of Pardons are like that. Apparently it's ALL Legal 😁

a reply to: xuenchen

Vermillion pointed this out on Page 1, so depending on when this fella made that statement, he's not the only one saying the 5th no longer applies for Hunter.

I'm sure someone probably said it already, but I didn't see it; Joe Biden only promised he wouldn't pardon Hunter BEFORE the election, and before he dropped out of the race. In other words, it was just another campaign lie he had no intention of following up on. Now that he has dropped out, and Harris has lost, he has done the very thing he always intended to do...pardon Hunter. Shows Biden's true integrity.

Whether he, or Harris, or Trump won the election didn't matter; all that mattered was the election needed to be over because then no one could do anything about it other than get pissed off and no votes would be lost because of it.

What you are seeing is the true character of the Biden cartel.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

And I'd like to think Team Trump figured this is what he'd do all along, so had a 'bargaining chip' when Trump met Jo.
Something like this:
Point of peaceful transition would have brought up J6th. So, Trump says "I'm gonna pardon them all Jo. I know you're going to pardon Hunter, why wouldn't you? Hell, while you are at it, you might as well pardon him right back to 2014.... why not?"
Trap laid.
Biden thinks.... "Why didn't I think of that! Back date it all the way to 2014.... that'll screw them up...." Goes off cackling like Kamalalala. Trump rubs his hands and waits..... and here we are.
Rainbows
Jane

Trump got impeached because Zelenskyy didn't want to investigate the Joe/Hunter Biden crimes in Ukraine.

I want my U.S. tax dollars to stop going to Ukraine while Zelenskyy is President.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

I want my U.S. tax dollars to stop going to Ukraine

I fixed your statement

Trump got impeached because Zelenskyy didn't want to investigate the Joe/Hunter Biden crimes in Ukraine.

a reply to: WeMustCare

I say Vindman was the one who lead the impeachment brigade, Zelenksy played nice with Trump. I am no Zelensky fan but, to me, Vindman and our Ukranian diplomats were the ones that were running that impeachment fiasco.

As The Gateway Pundit previously reported, Vindman was a crucial figure in the first impeachment of President Trump over his “perfect” phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 2019. But he was caught repeatedly lying during his testimony before Congress, which made him a leftist hero.

Looks like Musk isn't too fond of Vindman either. I hope they have the goods on that bastard.

After seeing this interview, Musk delivered harrowing news to Vindman: because he is on the payroll of Ukrainian oligarchs and committed treason against America, he must pay “the appropriate penalty.”

Video in link

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

If Zelenskyy had agreed to pick up where Shokin left off before Biden had The investigator fired, there would have been no impeachment.

Agreed?

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

If Zelenskyy had agreed to pick up where Shokin left off before Biden had The investigator fired, there would have been no impeachment.

Agreed?

Yes, I agree.
Would you say without Vindman leaking call then there would not have been an impeachment? We can disagree without being disagreeable, I like that about you.

Well to keep the traditions going alive, now is rumors that Newsome will be the next darling for the democrat party candidate for 2028 elections.

He now proclaiming himself the champion of the illegals and criminals in his state appropriating billions to safe the illegals against Trump.

Sadly, he forgets that California the once Golden state is now bankrupted. Plus he forgot that he cannot fight the federal government when it comes to criminals.

I am sure Kamala bail fund alone with Maxim will help also.

This is just getting really funny.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

If Zelenskyy had agreed to pick up where Shokin left off before Biden had The investigator fired, there would have been no impeachment.

Agreed?

Yes, I agree.
Would you say without Vindman leaking call then there would not have been an impeachment? We can disagree without being disagreeable, I like that about you.

There would have been nothing to leak. President Trump was impeached for threatening to withhold $1 Billion in Ukraine Aid, until Zelenskyy restarted the investigation into Joe/Hunter Biden. If Zelenskyy had agreed to restart the investigation because Trump asked him to, there would have been no need for Trump to "twist Zelenskyy's arm" by threatening to withhold aid.

Zelenskyy is a lapdog for our corrupt officials. They throw him crumbs ($$$$) in return for his "looking the other way".

There would have been nothing to leak.

a reply to: WeMustCare
Respectfully, I anticipated that and I would say that-there was nothing to leak when Vindman was the leaker. The whole thing was a made up scam and, in my opinion, Zelensky was irrelevant. The nevertrumpers had the legacy media, rinos, career diplomats like Marie Yovanovitch and Vindman with his purple heart on the ready. It was Kabuki Theartre at its best. Zelensky was not important to the impeachment, at least not nearly as important as Alexander Vindman-Lieutenant Colonel and Marie Yovanovitch-a high ranking State Dept. Diplomat.
I think that makes more sense

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

If Zelenskyy had agreed to pick up where Shokin left off before Biden had The investigator fired, there would have been no impeachment.

Agreed?

Yes, I agree.
Would you say without Vindman leaking call then there would not have been an impeachment? We can disagree without being disagreeable, I like that about you.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General said President Trump did not commit any crimes, but Intel analysts Eric Ciaramella and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman conspired with Congressman Adam Schiff and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to impeach Donald Trump, because what he wanted would interfere with their flow of illegal $$$ kickbacks from Ukraine, and other places.

If I'm interpreting this correctly, the I.G. of Intel defends Trump in 2019: www.justice.gov...

I want every American involved with that entrapment scheme to be investigated and punished by the Department of Justice. Zelenskyy punished in some way. And the Trump Impeachments REMOVED from the official U.S. government record.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General said President Trump did not commit any crimes, but Intel analysts Eric Ciaramella and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman conspired with Congressman Adam Schiff and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to impeach Donald Trump, because what he wanted would interfere with their flow of illegal $$$ kickbacks from Ukraine, and other places.

a reply to: WeMustCare

Yes, that was my point. You included more "players" involved in the scam-nice. I am just sayin', Zelensky was not the keystone in this impeachment scam. Any and all the Ukrainians are corrupt, it was a never before seen all out blitz to get Trump. We witnessed it, just splittin' hairs maybe but to me Zelensky wasn't "responsible" for the impeachment- the others American intelligence, military and State Dept, congressmen and women....they were the ones. We both know it was a scam, terrible for our country-such an awful ordeal we went through.

🚨U.S. President Joe Biden AVOIDED the usual DOJ procedures and protocols when pardoning his son Hunter.

Source: www.usatoday.com...

REMEMBER THIS. REFER BACK TO JOE's "streamlining", when President Trump doesn't do things in a way the pinheads feel he should. (i.e. When he declassifies documents without asking underlings for their approval.)