Interesting Video-UFO?

I never post videos because it's been the tradition here for the last 20 years to debunk nearly all videos/photographs as CGI. It's almost a joke around here.....EVERYTHING video/phot related is CGI.

However.......I'm not so sure about this one. It's worth a watch if only for the drama effect. The show is nothing if not "ominous". Save your minds by turning off the sound; the people who took the video are obviously.........

The presenter.......MRMBB333 providers no commentary. Which is rather.....odd. So I have to add that the first half of the video (poor quality) I almost immediately dismissed as lights from a distant hill top. But in the last half, it's obvious there's no hilltop in the background.

I'm most curious to know what ATS'ers think of this.

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Never mind........Youtube took it down......without taking it down

a reply to: Cvastar

Here ya go :



Search Link : VERY rare moment caught on camera! I don't think they were supposed to SEE this! MrMBB333

Kinda long at 24 mins, but some weird light action there.

a reply to: KnowItAllKnowNothin

Thanks for that.

a reply to: Cvastar
This is an interesting one. I don’t want to dismiss it, the people seem genuinely concerned. I would love to hear an explanation. Good find.

a reply to: ManSizedSquirrel

Thanks.

Yea, they do seem concerned.....I guess rightly so because if the lights are attached to something or a part of some "craft" it's huge! I wish I knew what part of the UK they're in.....I could search to see if others saw it.

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: ManSizedSquirrel

Thanks.

Yea, they do seem concerned.....I guess rightly so because if the lights are attached to something or a part of some "craft" it's huge! I wish I knew what part of the UK they're in.....I could search to see if others saw it.

I thought stones at first but the person is describing noises they’re hearing. I don’t think drones makes mouses like that.

a reply to: Cvastar

The recent auroras, or reflections off a temperature inversion, would adequately explain the video.

I see nothing that would specifically imply intelligently controlled aircraft. It's most likely just a rare atmospheric effect.

a reply to: Cvastar

Unfortunately, there's no data on where the video was taken, when it was taken, and which direction the camera was pointed. That information would allow to rule in or out certain explanations. For example, noctilucent clouds could be a possible explanation if the video was taken at high latitude pointing generally northward, and not too long after sundown.

Really weird when the video is zoomed in and you can see the lights pulsing.

No idea what it is, but sure not buying "cloud formation" with those lights.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Cvastar

The recent auroras, or reflections off a temperature inversion, would adequately explain the video.

I see nothing that would specifically imply intelligently controlled aircraft. It's most likely just a rare atmospheric effect.

Agreed.
Perhaps some form of ball lightning ?

Its not often I am truly stumped on these types of videos but I generally cannot come up with a viable explanation for this one.
Maybe some kind of atmospheric phenomena but god knows what !

Looks like someone with a spotlight array beaming the lights into the low hanging clouds.

originally posted by: Boomer1947
...noctilucent clouds could be a possible explanation if the video was taken at high latitude pointing generally northward, and not too long after sundown.

Sounds like as good a guess as any.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
Really weird when the video is zoomed in and you can see the lights pulsing.

No idea what it is, but sure not buying "cloud formation" with those lights.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

Instead of thinking of a single cloud formation, think of clouds at various altitudes. My guess would be lower altitude clouds partially blocking spotty brighter, higher altitude clouds that are bright enough to peek through the lower altitude clouds from time to time.

The intro of the video shows that lights from the ground illuminate the bottom of the clouds, but it should be easy to guess what can illuminate the higher altitude clouds after sunset. Here's a hint, from the UK, where we can see the higher altitude clouds illuminated by sunlight:


www.foxweather.com...

Now imagine partially blocking the illuminated clouds, and make them both non-uniform or spotty, maybe add some wind in different directions or speeds at different altitudes, and you will have "flickering lights" peeking through like in the video. The sunlight is uniform, not flickering, but what causes the flickering illusion is the non-uniformity of the various cloud layers moving with respect to each other.

I've seen a strange illusion with the moon, where it looked like the moon was flickering, kind of like the flickering lights in the video. The moon wasn't actually flickering of course, it just looked that way, because it was cloudy, and there were some small holes or gaps in the clouds that the moon could partially peek through as the wind blew the clouds past the moon. The gaps weren't large enough to see the whole moon. This video reminded me of that flickering illusion I saw with the moon, but in this case the flickering lights may be coming from sunlit noctilucent clouds, rather than the moon.

originally posted by: Tolkien
Agreed.
Perhaps some form of ball lightning ?

I wouldn't rule out some kind of electrical activity in the atmosphere. In fact one thing that might support that hypothesis is the observation made by the photographer that they hear a crackling sound when they see the flashes. However, the flip side is, I thought the audio track was pretty decent but I couldn't hear this crackling sound the photographer said they could hear. However it was easy to hear the plane when they said they could hear the plane, so to me the crackling sound is unconfirmed at best.

The other person made some comment about the alleged crackling sound the photographer mentioned, but it was a bit garbled so I could tell if they said they could hear it or couldn't hear it.

There are some really odd electrical effects in the atmosphere other than ball lightning too, like crown flash, but so far I've only seen that in daylight video, and it's so rare I've never seen it in person. But I suppose theoretically it could change the direction of light coming from illuminated noctilucent clouds, as the light is refracted though ice crystals sporadically, causing a flickering illusion.

www.syfy.com...
slate.com...

That is the best evidence I have ever seen for the existence of fire breathing dragons. If you saw that over a hundred years ago, that would be the only explanation possible. Or perhaps waring demons and angels.

As to what it actually was, I have no idea. Could be rare cloud lighting or some strange weather phonomina as already discussed.

Its a good explanation but I cant find another video that looks close to being similar as the OP video. This is why this is such an unusual video.
Pretty certain its not fake but as to what it is exactly I dont know !

a reply to: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: devilhunter69
Its not often I am truly stumped on these types of videos but I generally cannot come up with a viable explanation for this one.
Maybe some kind of atmospheric phenomena but god knows what !

My best guess would be that it is a highly-charged cumulonimbus.

Given the accents, I am assuming it is in Yorkshire - perhaps somewhere in Cleveland. Or Todmorden way.

a reply to: Cvastar

Well, I won't debunk it as some CGI or other, but I will pose a question you should ask yourself. I pose this question often on this subject, and it is as follows:

Why would an alien race which has the technology to travel from far beyond our solar system:

a.) Have any need to come here to Earth? They clearly possess technology far beyond anything mankind has ever developed, why would they come visit us?

b.) Any resource Earth could have could easily be developed by such an advanced alien race, so what do they want?

c.) Given the limitations of mass traveling at velocities approaching the speed of light (which would be required for interstellar travel), why would such an alien race ever bring a physical craft to Earth?

Now, there are some potential counter-arguments to these questions, but if you really think about it they're pretty unlikely. For example, one might argue that said alien race jacked up their own planet and now need a new home. Okay, but if they have the technology to get here then surely they have the technology to fix whatever the problem is. Say a giant meteor hit their planet and blasted it into their Sun. Okay, but if that happened, then they wouldn't waste any time just coming to visit for a few minutes and then leaving; they'd straight up exterminate the human race and just take over. About any argument you can come up with as a reason for an alien race to visit Earth gets undone when you consider the technology they'd have to possess just to get here in the first place.

The distance problem alone is a huge obstacle, and not something easily circumvented with physics as we currently understand it. Even relatively "simple" things like colonizing another planet like Mars in any meaningful way presents almost unimaginable logistical challenges because of the distances involved. And that's our next door neighbor. Any other sentient beings would face similar challenges, but in their case they're not traveling to just another planet, but rather a whole other stellar solar system.

So, the way I look at the whole UFO / Alien thing is like this... If E.T. is ever going to come here, he already has, and very candidly, he may be living among us as I type this. We don't know it because he is too vastly different from us for us to recognize him. For that matter, he might not even know we exist either. Humans are selfish creatures; we tend to think E.T. is going to be like us, or just slightly different. Most people's minds will not allow them to perceive a race of beings so unimaginably different from us that we can't even comprehend their existence. The simple notion that E.T. even requires some sort of a craft (a UFO) to travel here inside of is a perfect example. When you consider it in that light, well, it's almost laughable.

S&F for your post, BTW.

a reply to: Cvastar

I just stumbled onto this. Could it be related?

Linky Dinky

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Cvastar

Well, I won't debunk it as some CGI or other, but I will pose a question you should ask yourself. I pose this question often on this subject, and it is as follows:

Why would an alien race which has the technology to travel from far beyond our solar system:

a.) Have any need to come here to Earth? They clearly possess technology far beyond anything mankind has ever developed, why would they come visit us?

b.) Any resource Earth could have could easily be developed by such an advanced alien race, so what do they want?

c.) Given the limitations of mass traveling at velocities approaching the speed of light (which would be required for interstellar travel), why would such an alien race ever bring a physical craft to Earth?

Now, there are some potential counter-arguments to these questions, but if you really think about it they're pretty unlikely. For example, one might argue that said alien race jacked up their own planet and now need a new home. Okay, but if they have the technology to get here then surely they have the technology to fix whatever the problem is. Say a giant meteor hit their planet and blasted it into their Sun. Okay, but if that happened, then they wouldn't waste any time just coming to visit for a few minutes and then leaving; they'd straight up exterminate the human race and just take over. About any argument you can come up with as a reason for an alien race to visit Earth gets undone when you consider the technology they'd have to possess just to get here in the first place.

The distance problem alone is a huge obstacle, and not something easily circumvented with physics as we currently understand it. Even relatively "simple" things like colonizing another planet like Mars in any meaningful way presents almost unimaginable logistical challenges because of the distances involved. And that's our next door neighbor. Any other sentient beings would face similar challenges, but in their case they're not traveling to just another planet, but rather a whole other stellar solar system.

So, the way I look at the whole UFO / Alien thing is like this... If E.T. is ever going to come here, he already has, and very candidly, he may be living among us as I type this. We don't know it because he is too vastly different from us for us to recognize him. For that matter, he might not even know we exist either. Humans are selfish creatures; we tend to think E.T. is going to be like us, or just slightly different. Most people's minds will not allow them to perceive a race of beings so unimaginably different from us that we can't even comprehend their existence. The simple notion that E.T. even requires some sort of a craft (a UFO) to travel here inside of is a perfect example. When you consider it in that light, well, it's almost laughable.

S&F for your post, BTW.

Maybe they're significantly technologically advanced, but that doesn't mean they have all the answers. Life elsewhere would be fascinating to them too, in my opinion. Maybe they also wonder about their origins, like we do.