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I See a Different Attitude This Time Around with Congress

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posted on Dec, 13 2024 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42
However, I blame our selected leaders for putting Israel first due to either AIPAC money or Epstein tactics and selecting Dual citizens as part of their cabinet . They will make us take out 100's of billions in loans and pay interest on $35 Trillion so we can give the money to Israel who has less debt per capita and can easily take out their own loans.

Israels influence over our govt is too great . We shouldn't allow ANY foreign nation have that much influence over our Gov't.


The US gives out 50 billion per year outside of something like war/Ukraine in aid and Israel gets about 8% or less of that if you average it out. The US has given Ukraine about 15+ years of Israeli aid in basically 1 year and isn't done. What we spent to support Iraq and Afghanistan is equal to 550 years of Israeli aid.

So, the question I ask is what is your beef with Israel? They are the only country in the ME that has even an ounce of sanity and is not some extremist that will cut your throat or give you tea depending on how they feel. The connection we have goes back to 1948 and there are 300/400 thousand Americans/Israelis living there and 100,000s more in the US. We are about as tied at the hip as two countries can be.

I say this with the knowledge that Israel is also an ME country with some level of extremism, but holy hell if you compare it to the rest of ME it is nothing to what real extremism is like over there. We also understand they have their agendas that may or may not align with ours.



I'm glad the libtards are not going to be in control but the uniparty is created by Israel. Neither the democrat party or the republican party can agree on anything including what a women is. However when it comes to Israel they both agree to fck the American tax payer for Israel. So I'm not sold that the same people are still not in control behind the scene but with a new political facade .

I guess we will see soon enough but trump is already gun-ho about killing freedom of speech for anything that is considered critical of Israel as priority 1.


F the taxpayer? Israel is peanuts to 20 years of war, lockdowns, 70,000 IRS agents, Ukraine, NATO support, the total we give each year in aid etc etc.

I think you just have a beef with Israel that is mostly unfounded. Who has more influence Israel or the old European groups like the Rothschilds? That side is a very interesting story of what they created and is still in control today.


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posted on Dec, 13 2024 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: BernnieJGato

That's because Trump caught them all off guard the first time around. Now the 'Swamp' has had more time to hide their sh!t better, so they're in a safer position.

The other thing is, I think both Congress and the Senate now see the handwriting on the wall...'The "Swamp" is at risk, and the American people are absolutely going to make it a top priority to drain it!' Just look at DOGE; so far it is getting almost universal bipartisan support. Again, the handwriting is on the wall.



posted on Dec, 13 2024 @ 02:55 PM
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The US gives out 50 billion per year outside of something like war/Ukraine in aid and Israel gets about 8% or less of that if you average it out. The US has given Ukraine about 15+ years of Israeli aid in basically 1 year and isn't done. What we spent to support Iraq and Afghanistan is equal to 550 years of Israeli aid.


F the taxpayer? Israel is peanuts to 20 years of war, lockdowns, 70,000 IRS agents, Ukraine, NATO support, the total we give each year in aid etc etc.

We shouldn't be sending anyone including Ukraine,Israel,Africa, etc money while we have to borrow the money and pay interest on $35 Trillion in debt.

Especially when Israel is in less debt per capita and can take out their own loans. Not to mention the decades we have been doing that along with being their personal body guard at our expense.



. Who has more influence Israel or the old European groups like the Rothschilds?


They are one in the same. He literary helped establish the state of Israel. However Europe doesn't have near the influence that Israel has over our gov't.



I think you just have a beef with Israel that is mostly unfounded.

I only mention Israel because republicans complain about giving money to all foreign nations besides Israel like we give them magic money that doesn't impact us.

Also Israel by far has more influence as a foreign country in our govt than any other Nation including the American public. Via AIPAC and Epstein tactics its pretty evident that Israel runs our gov't . Heck even trump had to go and kiss Israel wall and our elected officials wear their freaking military uniforms .

Among the other things I already listed and how Israel has formed the uniparty , you can't be America first if you are ok with screwing the American tax payer for another country that can take out their own loans and pay their own interest. There is no reason why Israel shouldn't borrow their own money even if its just a dollar versus the American tax payer.





I wonder why our elected politicians put Israel first? Uhm what could it be besides money?

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posted on Dec, 13 2024 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42

We shouldn't be sending anyone including Ukraine,Israel,Africa, etc money while we have to borrow the money and pay interest on $35 Trillion in debt.


Your opinion, noted, but you seem to only focus on Israel, and there are so much bigger things to complain about.





I only mention Israel because republicans complain about giving money to all foreign nations besides Israel like we give them magic money that doesn't impact us.


Aren't the Warhawks basically republican? I'm not really complaining about any of it.


its pretty evident that Israel runs our gov't . Heck even trump had to go and kiss Israel wall and our elected officials wear their freaking military uniforms .


If that is true then you have two choices, join or go live in another country. BTW I do not agree with this opinion.



Among the other things I already listed and how Israel has formed the uniparty , you can't be America first if you are ok with screwing the American tax payer for another country that can take out their own loans and pay their own interest. There is no reason why Israel shouldn't borrow their own money even if its just a dollar versus the American tax payer.


Once again, not a large amount of money when compared to everything else. You might as well say that Israel is taking food out of the mouths of American children to increase the hyperbolic noise.



posted on Dec, 13 2024 @ 05:01 PM
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Connection?



posted on Dec, 13 2024 @ 05:43 PM
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but you seem to only focus on Israel,

I literately mentioned all foreign aid but you appear to be only focused on Israel.





join or go live in another country.

I guess you must have been in a coma during covid and did not notice that globalist shut down the world and have their fingers in just about every country.



and there are so much bigger things to complain about.

Your opinion, noted. However, what is more concerning than a foreign nation having control over your congress?




If that is true then you have two choices, join or go live in another country. BTW I do not agree with this opinion.

As I think your opinion is naive. Both party can't agree on anything not even what a women is but yet Republican or democrat all come together for Israel.

You had republican Thomas Massie tell you in an interview with tucker that every republican congress member gets assigned an Israel handler but suspects democrats as well.

We get further in debt for Israel despite the fact that Israel has less debt and can take out their own loans.

Our News agency ,govt, blackrock, banking industries .WEF, and Hollywood are the ones all pushing the toxic woke policies that republicans hate such as dei, open borders, irresponsible debt spending and keep americans fighting with each other by pushing their virtue signalling 'ism' that only promotes hate , intolerance, and anger among the people.Which are all industries with heavy associations with Israel.

Israel is the only foreign entity that does not have to register as a foreign agent.

Israel is the only state that is getting special hate protection against free speech.

Israel even brag how they themselves $ponsor 98% of our elected officials.





The list goes on and on ,but I suspect like every republican you will overlook it all like the democrats overlook everything that was wrong with Biden.





You might as well say that Israel is taking food out of the mouths of American children to increase the hyperbolic noise.


You keep avoiding that we have given Israel far more money than the Ukraine which every republican has butt hurt over for numerous decades and the fact why can't Israel take out their own loans. Why should American have to give Israel 1 cent when they have less debt and the ability to borrow their own money.


And before you take the lazy route again I don't blame Israel because they are doing what is in their best interest unlike our elected officials. I also don't hate or blame the Jewish people just like I don't group all the Italians as being part of the mob. However , you have to be naive asf to not not think their isn't a Israel mob or that their govt hasn't infiltrated our gov't. Again this is nothing about the individual jewish people its about a foreign gov't that has way too much control over our gov't.


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posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42

And before you take the lazy route again I don't blame Israel because they are doing what is in their best interest unlike our elected officials. I also don't hate or blame the Jewish people just like I don't group all the Italians as being part of the mob. However , you have to be naive asf to not not think their isn't a Israel mob or that their govt hasn't infiltrated our gov't. Again this is nothing about the individual jewish people its about a foreign gov't that has way too much control over our gov't.



I'm not taking any route, and as I said already if the world is equal to your hyperbole, then your choices are limited, and I guess you will live a life of complaining about it as there would be nothing you could possibly do to change it. It's a frivolous discussion for you to say that Israel controls America and for me to say no. We would continue to go in a never ending back and forth, so if it is inevitable what do you do?



posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 09:03 AM
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We would continue to go in a never ending back and forth, so if it is inevitable what do you do?

Like I stated before I accept that you will continue to act like a liberal who thinks Biden is mentally competent and ignore the facts right in your face when it comes to Israel.

I bet you were one of the MAGA republicans that felt Romney and McCain were better choices than Ron Paul as well.
And Trumps Rubio stacked administration is draining the swamp. lol .

You guys can't accept reality in front of you or interpolate data that is in front of you because of your wants and having made politics into a religion where its blasphemy to question your party ideals ,party, or candidate.

If israel isnt running the show why does BOTH party hawk tuah so hard during elections when it comes to Israel when the Jewish community is only 2% of the us population that votes atleast 80% of the time democrat anyways. While Christians who hawk tuah Israel as well vote 95% of the time republican.

There is no need to cater to Israel when they are such a small minority and the Jewish majority is going to vote democrat anyways while Christians are going to vote Republican anyways.

Yet look how much presidential election is about Hawk Tuah Israel as one of the biggest topic .
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posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42
Like I stated before accept that you will continue to act like a liberal who thinks Biden is mentally competent and ignore the facts right in your face when it comes to Israel.


So, what can you do? No matter the system you need to learn how to live within it. I really don't care as there are many layers in all of this, and to have you tell me "the truth" yeah...OK. My focus on making me and my family's lives better is much more on a personal level.

You still do not answer my question of so what can you do? If it is inevitable then it is like complaining that it is cold in the winter.



I bet you were one of the MAGA republicans that felt Romney and McCain were better choices than Ron Paul as well.
And Trumps Rubio stacked administration is draining the swamp. lol .


Romney has always been a Rhino and both he and McCain hated Trump because he did what they couldn't while seeing themselves as superior. I didn't vote at all in both cases, and I had a personal run-in with McCain that told me we cannot have someone with that level of a hothead in the White House. I also see his time as POW as not being honorable, so you have that too.



You guys can't accept reality in front of you or interpolate data that is in front of you because of your wants and having made politics into a religion where its blasphemy to question your party ideals ,party, or candidate.


I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, voted for no one like with Romney and McCain. My views jump across the party lines quite easily though I see the liberals as the worst choice and in the last 10+ years really the bad choice.



If israell isnt running the show why does BOTH party hawk tuah so hard during elections when it comes to Isreal when the Jewish community is only 2% of the us population that votes atleast 80% of the time democrat anyways.


I have explained that a number of times. We have a long connection with the Jews. America was founded on "Judeo-Christian" which provided a common basis of ethics and law between Judaism and Christianity. Israel is the one and only country in the ME that is not batsh!t crazy in their beliefs. We have a very large population of dual citizens, and I agree with you in that supports common goals with our two countries.

If Israel is so in control of America then why do we let them? Seems both sides agree to let them run the country, so why? The other question is whether America is an extension of Israel or is Israel is an extension of America. I see Israel as more of an extension of America.


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posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 10:22 AM
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So, what can you do? No matter the system you need to learn how to live within it.

Well for starters don't act like Israel doesn't have that much influence over our gov't.





If it is inevitable then it is like complaining that it is cold in the winter.

Just like before trump there were people that were already aware about the uniparty ,fake news, and the swamp. As more people wake up to what is going on the more likely we are able to get a shot at exposing it.
Long shot , yes, but better than no shot.

Pretending its not happening or lying to others that its not likely , is by far worse.





Israel is the one and only country in the ME that is not batsh!t crazy in their beliefs.

I'm not religious at all but have you seen the crazy sh1t that is in the talmud.

Or Direct Oral Suctioning baby penis (Metzitzah B’peh )
www.nyc.gov...

Yeah I wouldn't go as far as say not batsh!t crazy in my book when it comes to their beliefs. Luckily not all follow this just like not all Christians follow the crazy sh1t in the bible, but I wouldn't say their believes aren't in the bat sh1t crazy rhealm.

Heck many are even border line supremacist and speak of themselves as the chosen people.



If Israel is so in control of America then why do we let them? Seems both sides agree to let them run the country, so why?


Are you kidding? Who and what do you think Epstein was getting control over ?
Nothing buys loyalty or compliance like bribery. So if they don't comply with AIPAC money or epstein tactics they will never get elected or reelected with the help of the Israel MSM or worse get their dirty laundry exposed.

The one that speak out against Israel control over the US get falsely marked as antisemitic such as Thomas Massie and Ron Paul then get shunned by the system. Its career suicide to come out against Israel for the most part. Luckily there are enough people smart enough to support them, but unfortunately neither Thomas Massie or Ron will ever get their big shot because the fake media and narrative that AIPAC pushes to keep them from the limelight in a positive way. Heck the Republican party attacked Ron paul even more harshly than the democrat party because his stance on Israel. Heck look at the diddy stuff and clive davis who was diddy handler. Nothing gets control of these political parasite like bribery.

This was in Epsteins office . Clinton was Epsteins b1tch and Israel used Monica Lewinski to bribe his ass and get him in line. But the kept the juicer stuff secret from his 45 some trips to the Island.





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posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42

This was in Epsteins office . Clinton was Epsteins b1tch and Israel used Monica Lewinski to bribe his ass and get him in line. But the kept the juicer stuff secret from his 45 some trips to the Island.


So once again... everyone in the Government knows about this, and everyone is implicit at some level in supporting it, so what can you do if everyone is the same, even Trump?



posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 11:21 AM
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There was some official on CNN this morning who didn't care that Speaker Johnson is trying to work with Democrats to get things done in a bi-partisan way. That was big news to everyone but him. He was ballistic over the DOJ going rouge and arresting Donald Trump's political enemies. (Too bad I was listening to XM and not watching TV. This guy was scared to death!)



posted on Dec, 14 2024 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: interupt42

This was in Epsteins office . Clinton was Epsteins b1tch and Israel used Monica Lewinski to bribe his ass and get him in line. But the kept the juicer stuff secret from his 45 some trips to the Island.


So once again... everyone in the Government knows about this, and everyone is implicit at some level in supporting it, so what can you do if everyone is the same, even Trump?


So once again, pretending it ain't happening or isn't an issue is helping how?

As more people start being aware we have a chance to address it. as long as people dismiss the issue or pretend it ain't happening nothing will get fixed. LIke I mentioned before pre trump many people spoke about the swamp , fake news, and the uniparty. Enough so that it became exposed to the masses then Trump ran on it.

Even today some of the MAGA people are waking up to the bs, enough to even call out trump when he picks swamp. I think we have the MAGA swallowers that have made trump into a deity that will always back trump off a cliff.

However there are some that are waking up to some of his bs like selecting rubios and the likes into his cabinet. I think as his term progressives some of the patience they are giving him now will likely start to diminish and start to hold him accountable if he doesn't start to deliver. Luckily we also congress member Thomas Massie that is truly America first that is also bringing attention to this. so its getting traction.

Its a very slow process but the key to holding our elected officials accountable is calling out the bs and identifying the issues. Israel is an issue that is currently being suppressed and the more people start talking about it and become aware about it ,the more its likely it will get addressed and brought to the forefront like fake news and the swamp.

Does it mean its going to get addressed no, but their is 0 chance that it will get addressed if we pretend its not an issue or bring it up. That is why trump was elected, because he was the .001% chance to get rid of the swamp. Keeping silent on Israel control over us , is like voting Kamala , 0% chance of fixing the issues.



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