Witnesses who will testify in next week's hearing on UAPs

Enough politics let's delve into how deep will this hearing go... sure Im skeptical AF and this could all be window dressing and subterfuge, still there was a time when ATS was the one-stop shop for all things UFO RELATED and it would have been going bugchit...



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Rep. Tim Burchett
@RepTimBurchett
Witnesses who will testify in next week's hearing on UAPs:

Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (Ret.)
Chief Executive Officer, Ocean STL Consulting, LLC

Luis Elizondo, Author, and Former Department of Defense Official

Michael Gold, Chief Growth Officer, Redwire Corporation, and Former National Aeronautics and Space Administration Associate Administrator

Michael Shellenberger,

Ancient history tells us UFO's/UAP's have been here centuries before modern technology, so yes; they're real. What I don't buy for a single second is the 'offical' narrative they're trying to brainwash us with.

I belive our reality is multi-dimensional and governments have known this for many decades; they're using their verson of UAP's to cover up their own nefarious endeavors.

originally posted by: nugget1
Ancient history tells us UFO's/UAP's have been here centuries before modern technology, so yes; they're real. What I don't buy for a single second is the 'offical' narrative they're trying to brainwash us with.

I belive our reality is multi-dimensional and governments have known this for many decades; they're using their verson of UAP's to cover up their own nefarious endeavors.

My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

I find it difficult to believe we've had intact craft and still we know so little about them. I fully expect our military tried to duplicate or use the knowledge learned for our defense but after 70 years call thier bluff and say perhaps we need to expand who is in the know so we can exploit the tech for the good of the country

The MIC has had it long enough let's see if somebody else can figure it out.

Hell supposedly there are 7-8 intact craft as well as some NHI

a reply to: putnam6

I saw this…

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: nugget1
Ancient history tells us UFO's/UAP's have been here centuries before modern technology, so yes; they're real. What I don't buy for a single second is the 'offical' narrative they're trying to brainwash us with.

I belive our reality is multi-dimensional and governments have known this for many decades; they're using their verson of UAP's to cover up their own nefarious endeavors.

My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

I find it difficult to believe we've had intact craft and still we know so little about them. I fully expect our military tried to duplicate or use the knowledge learned for our defense but after 70 years call thier bluff and say perhaps we need to expand who is in the know so we can exploit the tech for the good of the country

The MIC has had it long enough let's see if somebody else can figure it out.

Hell supposedly there are 7-8 intact craft as well as some NHI

My belief leans towards they already have the tech...and have had since 1947; UFO's/UAP's has been the perfect cover-up.

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: nugget1
Ancient history tells us UFO's/UAP's have been here centuries before modern technology, so yes; they're real. What I don't buy for a single second is the 'offical' narrative they're trying to brainwash us with.

I belive our reality is multi-dimensional and governments have known this for many decades; they're using their verson of UAP's to cover up their own nefarious endeavors.

My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

I find it difficult to believe we've had intact craft and still we know so little about them. I fully expect our military tried to duplicate or use the knowledge learned for our defense but after 70 years call thier bluff and say perhaps we need to expand who is in the know so we can exploit the tech for the good of the country

The MIC has had it long enough let's see if somebody else can figure it out.

Hell supposedly there are 7-8 intact craft as well as some NHI

My belief leans towards they already have the tech...and have had since 1947; UFO's/UAP's has been the perfect cover-up.

There is a difference between having the tech and knowing how to use it, how come we sent so many Americans to die for the MIC if we had game-changing tech?

I think the MIC learned some things but the meat and potatoes remain elusive, if not then all the MICis doing is releasing tech incrementally to maximize its profits while flying its OWN fleet of UAPS.

Perhaps even manufacturing this release

a reply to: putnam6

then all the MICis doing is releasing tech incrementally to maximize its profits while flying its OWN fleet of UAPS.

Perhaps even manufacturing this release

I think the years since '47 have been spent on perfecting it; now they may be getting reading for the 'alien invasion'....ramping up world belief in other-world visitors.
I'm sure the government will save us with an amended Patriot Act.

John Greenwald Jr just dropped a episode on the hearing over at The Black Vault.
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Caver78
Ideally it's nice to summarize the content of a video when posting it, but I'll do it for you.
He says the hearing doesn't make any sense to him, because the purpose is to review the issue of over-classification of UAP-related things, and as far as he knows, none of the 4 witnesses have anything to do with the classification review process. So it looks like an extreme mismatch between the stated objective of the hearing, and the witnesses invited to the hearing.

Later, he lists a "fantasy dream team" of witnesses he's like to see participate in a much more comprehensive day's long UAP hearing. He also wonders what ever happened with David Grusch, did they ever follow up with him behind closed doors and if so what happened, or if not why not?

originally posted by: putnam6
My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

I'm not seeing any disclosure, not even slow disclosure.
Even John Greenewald says information is locked up tighter than ever, and we're just going to get left in the dark is the last thing he says in his video on the hearing.

He also shows this example, of 9 common shapes of UAPs, and 5 uncommon shapes, in the video linked by Caver78. This is not what disclosure looks like, but this is what is happening:



Here's an embedded version of the same video:

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: putnam6

then all the MICis doing is releasing tech incrementally to maximize its profits while flying its OWN fleet of UAPS.

Perhaps even manufacturing this release

I think the years since '47 have been spent on perfecting it; now they may be getting reading for the 'alien invasion'....ramping up world belief in other-world visitors.
I'm sure the government will save us with an amended Patriot Act.

I do not know but I love discussion on speculation and theories, one Ive seen bandied about, the NHIs could care less about our world and society, we are so far behind its technology, that it would be like humans discussing the combustion engine with a jellyfish.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: Caver78
Ideally it's nice to summarize the content of a video when posting it, but I'll do it for you.
He says the hearing doesn't make any sense to him, because the purpose is to review the issue of over-classification of UAP-related things, and as far as he knows, none of the 4 witnesses have anything to do with the classification review process. So it looks like an extreme mismatch between the stated objective of the hearing, and the witnesses invited to the hearing.

Later, he lists a "fantasy dream team" of witnesses he's like to see participate in a much more comprehensive day's long UAP hearing. He also wonders what ever happened with David Grusch, did they ever follow up with him behind closed doors and if so what happened, or if not why not?

originally posted by: putnam6
My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

I'm not seeing any disclosure, not even slow disclosure.
Even John Greenewald says information is locked up tighter than ever, and we're just going to get left in the dark is the last thing he says in his video on the hearing.

He also shows this example, of 9 common shapes of UAPs, and 5 uncommon shapes, in the video linked by Caver78. This is not what disclosure looks like, but this is what is happening:

Here's an embedded version of the same video:

Who knows no doubt Im hopefully optimistic, Ive been plugged into the topic long enough to have a healthy dose of skepticism. It is a healthy skepticism for almost any and all participants.

I call it slow disclosure because previously are government and military did not publically admit the existence of UAPs, but now they have finally disclosed they do exist, regardless if they are being truthful or not about the depth of thier knowledge or rationale for admitting as much after decades of denial.

I admit not a fan of most podcasts on the subject Greenwald's included, thats become their cottage industry hard to tell who to trust who has legit info, and who is pulling our chain. Some of Blackvault's vids strike a chord others seem like filler, I do enjoy Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

originally posted by: putnam6

My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

My thought is a rouge government agency is using high end technology to illegally spy on citizens.

originally posted by: putnam6

but now they have finally disclosed they do exist,

It is sad that after billions of dollars and decades the military supposedly still can’t tell the difference between swamp gas, ball lightning, weather balloons, or an actual aircraft.

I’m not a big fan of Avi Loeb, but this might be the best bet for truth.

The Galileo Project for the Systematic Scientific Search for Evidence of Extraterrestrial Technological Artifacts


projects.iq.harvard.edu...

Also…

“You can’t wait for daddy government to tell you what you think you already know. They don’t need to give you permission to move forward,” Nolan said.

www.newsnationnow.com...

I’m glad there is increased interest and concern over UAP’s and the incompetence or coverup by the government.

a reply to: putnam6

Does Luis Elizondo even have any credibility left? I don't know much about the other witnesses . . .

I am of the belief also that they are multidimensional and ~demonic~ . . . Jacques Vallee and others I respect (and that is a small number) in the field have alluded to this.

Some day I will relate the story of the silver disk I saw on my Grandfathers farm in Webster, NH in August of 1959 . . .

originally posted by: nugget1
Ancient history tells us UFO's/UAP's have been here centuries before modern technology,

Ancient history tells us no such thing.

originally posted by: nugget1
so yes; they're real. What I don't buy for a single second is the 'offical' narrative they're trying to brainwash us with.

But you clearly buy the narrative that someone has brainwashed you with.

originally posted by: nugget1
I belive our reality is multi-dimensional and governments have known this for many decades; they're using their verson of UAP's to cover up their own nefarious endeavors.

You don't have to believe that our reality is multi-dimensional, it can be demonstrated.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Not here to argue with you; there are as many different opinons and beliefs as there are people.

originally posted by: nugget1
Not here to argue with you; there are as many different opinons and beliefs as there are people.

I have no objection to you believing that UFOs exist but that does not detract from the fact that there is no evidence to support your statement that "Ancient history tell us" that UFOs have been here for centuries. It does not. That is not an opinion or a belief.

originally posted by: putnam6
I call it slow disclosure because previously are government and military did not publically admit the existence of UAPs, but now they have finally disclosed they do exist, regardless if they are being truthful or not about the depth of thier knowledge or rationale for admitting as much after decades of denial.

General Samford talked about them in the 1950's except that was before they renamed them to UAPs. Samford refers to "flying saucers" but they were called UFOs by the government back then up until the navy started calling them UAPs in what was it, about 2017? However NARCAP has been calling them UAPs for decades, and that term does have some advantages if some of them are not solid objects but are instead what Samford refers to as "light aberrations".

Have you seen this landmark video on the topic? Samford is talking about them and he admits they've been reported and doesn't deny they exist, but he does say they don't seem to be a threat.

Maj. Gen. John A. Samford's Statement on "Flying Saucers", Pentagon, Washington, DC, 07/31/1952

"There have been a certain percentage of this volume of reports that have been made by "credible observers" of relatively incredible things. It is this group of observations that we are now attempting to resolve. Our basic difficulty in dealing with these is that there is no measurement of them that makes it possible for us to put them in any pattern that would be profitable for a deliberate, custom sort of analysis to take the next step.

We have as of date come to only one firm conclusion with respect to this remaining percentage:

and that is that it does not contain any pattern of purpose or of consistency that we can relate to any conceivable threat to the Unites States."

At the end of the video is a clip of Major Keyhoe saying he thinks they are solid alien craft, which of course was not then and still is not today the government's position. In fact we have Kirkpatrick specifically denying that claim based on his investigation.

Considering UFOs or flying saucers or UAPs or Tic-Tacs have not attacked the United States in the 68 years since then, history has so far confirmed Samford's assessment that these unidentified things don't seem to be a threat, at least not so far.

The main difference I've seen in the new narrative coming from Lue Elizondo, is that they might be a threat. In the 1950's narrative, they existed, but they weren't seen as a threat.

The UAPs that Biden shot down with sidewinder missiles didn't seem to be a threat. One of them was just a $15 balloon with a radio package that allowed it to be tracked circling the globe 7 times before it was apparently shot down using two of the ~$450,000 sidewinder missiles. I suppose we can't rule out the possibility that somewhere there might be one or more UAPs that could be a threat, and we know that China and Russia probably have some advanced drone capabilities, that may post a spying threat, but you know the US spies on Russia and China too, so I don't think spying is a one way street.

originally posted by: Lazy88
My thought is a rouge government agency is using high end technology to illegally spy on citizens.

Lots of people thought the US government spying on its own people was a paranoid conspiracy theory, until Edward Snowden showed it to be true. A court eventually ruled that blanket warrantless spying was illegal.

Avi Loeb is not going to find any answers as far as I can tell.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: nugget1
Not here to argue with you; there are as many different opinons and beliefs as there are people.

I have no objection to you believing that UFOs exist but that does not detract from the fact that there is no evidence to support your statement that "Ancient history tell us" that UFOs have been here for centuries. It does not. That is not an opinion or a belief.

Are you done yet?

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: putnam6

My hope it's another step towards slow disclosure.

My thought is a rouge government agency is using high end technology to illegally spy on citizens.

Probably if not highly likely all for the public safety, right...