Steal the vote alive and well

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: UKTruth

To be honest - you are already coming across that way, because no party have denied election results, claiming they were illegitimate, as the democrats have.

A handful of hardcore Hillary supporters cried fraud in 2016 but they were a tiny minority, less than 1%. They certainly did not try to stop the election from being certified. Even other Democrats laughed at them.

If you are telling the truth, and not just blubbering like a but hurt leftie, you would be angry about this guy, and speak up now.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

your hypocrisy is top notch. stupid republicans shouldn't cry about stolen elections, if they do that, they are idiots. But don't ever forget that stolen election in 2000. DERP!

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: UKTruth

To be honest - you are already coming across that way, because no party have denied election results, claiming they were illegitimate, as the democrats have.

Are you serious? Do you believe what you write?

The last 4 years have been nothing but Trump supporters complaining about a rigged election.

A handful of hardcore Hillary supporters cried fraud in 2016 but they were a tiny minority, less than 1%. They certainly did not try to stop the election from being certified. Even other Democrats laughed at them.

Yet over half of Republicans are still crying rigged election fraud over 2020 but have yet to provide any evidence of such.

In 2000 when the election truly was stolen, Gore and the Democrats took it on the chin because they thought it would be bad for the country to undermine the voting system. Again no one tried to stop the certification on January 6th.

Only once in modern times has a political party actively tried to block certification on January 6th....

Do I need to tell you which party did that?

Yes, i am serious.
From 2016 to 2020 we had nothing but election denial from democrats day in day out - and worse a conspiracy using Govt institutions to try a soft coup of the elected Govt to undermine democracy with the use of the Russian collusion hoax.

I see you going back to 2000 claiming the election was stolen then. So , you are an election denier when it suits.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

your hypocrisy is top notch. stupid republicans shouldn't cry about stolen elections, if they do that, they are idiots. But don't ever forget that stolen election in 2000. DERP!

Hypocrisy?

What have the Trump supporting Republicans done for the past 3.9 years?

Are you not aware that Trump has been claiming rigged election for his entire campaign?

Keep in mind he has yet to produce evidence. If you remember when he was Rogan's show and Joe pressed him to show evidence, he rambled about having papers then changed the subject to Hunter's laptop.

a reply to: UKTruth

Gore should have won Florida. His brother being governor certainly helped his case there...but it was so close that it could have been consider a toss up.

This is also well documented.

...but remember Gore had no spine.

I forget the make up of Congress on January 6th 2001, so had Florida EC votes been rejected, I do believe the House still would have voted for Bush as they had a Republican majority....but since you are not an American I doubt you know how Congress chooses a president if no candidate gets 270.

Im off to work and dont have time to explain the process. Im short, each states slate of representative cast 1 vote per state.

The Senate votes for VP, 1 vote per senator.

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

your hypocrisy is top notch. stupid republicans shouldn't cry about stolen elections, if they do that, they are idiots. But don't ever forget that stolen election in 2000. DERP!

Hypocrisy?

What have the Trump supporting Republicans done for the past 3.9 years?

Are you not aware that Trump has been claiming rigged election for his entire campaign?

Keep in mind he has yet to produce evidence. If you remember when he was Rogan's show and Joe pressed him to show evidence, he rambled about having papers then changed the subject to Hunter's laptop.

Hunters laptop is evidence of a rigged election.
The FBI had his laptop 11 months before the election and knew it was his, and knew it was legit.
They hid it.
Then 51 intelligence aholes wrote that letter lying to America about it.
Rigged.

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

your hypocrisy is top notch. stupid republicans shouldn't cry about stolen elections, if they do that, they are idiots. But don't ever forget that stolen election in 2000. DERP!

Hypocrisy?

What have the Trump supporting Republicans done for the past 3.9 years?

Are you not aware that Trump has been claiming rigged election for his entire campaign?

Keep in mind he has yet to produce evidence. If you remember when he was Rogan's show and Joe pressed him to show evidence, he rambled about having papers then changed the subject to Hunter's laptop.

oh my, this is awkward. Well, if you read this but pretend you are some random 8 year old kid it might help.

See, if you are right in the middle of chastising "Trump voters" for election denying, then without even starting a new paragraph, you bring up what you consider to be election fraud in the 2020 election, you might be a massive DERP. Let me know if you hear the audible "click".

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

your hypocrisy is top notch. stupid republicans shouldn't cry about stolen elections, if they do that, they are idiots. But don't ever forget that stolen election in 2000. DERP!

Hypocrisy?

What have the Trump supporting Republicans done for the past 3.9 years?

Are you not aware that Trump has been claiming rigged election for his entire campaign?

Keep in mind he has yet to produce evidence. If you remember when he was Rogan's show and Joe pressed him to show evidence, he rambled about having papers then changed the subject to Hunter's laptop.

Hunters laptop is evidence of a rigged election.
The FBI had his laptop 11 months before the election and knew it was his, and knew it was legit.
They hid it.
Then 51 intelligence aholes wrote that letter lying to America about it.
Rigged.

Yea, but Trump is orange. Orange.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

your hypocrisy is top notch. stupid republicans shouldn't cry about stolen elections, if they do that, they are idiots. But don't ever forget that stolen election in 2000. DERP!

Hypocrisy?

What have the Trump supporting Republicans done for the past 3.9 years?

Are you not aware that Trump has been claiming rigged election for his entire campaign?

Keep in mind he has yet to produce evidence. If you remember when he was Rogan's show and Joe pressed him to show evidence, he rambled about having papers then changed the subject to Hunter's laptop.

Hunters laptop is evidence of a rigged election.
The FBI had his laptop 11 months before the election and knew it was his, and knew it was legit.
They hid it.
Then 51 intelligence aholes wrote that letter lying to America about it.
Rigged.

Yea, but Trump is orange. Orange.

As a proud member of the least racist generation in America ever, I occasionally forget that skin color should dictate my treatment of people at this point in time.
My apologies good sir and thanks for the reminder 👍

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: UKTruth

Gore should have won Florida.

Gore should not have won Florida. This was checked and rechecked and rechecked. Bush won something like 20 out of 22 recounts in studies done after the fact. The only way they could get Gore to come out ahead was if they counted ballots in a way inconsistent with the law. The only way Gore won was if the state broke the law.

This myth just won't die. And then you cry about Republicans not accepting elections. too rich.

Bush won the 2000 election. It's a historical fact. It's time you accept it.

ETA: The myth won't die because it's a Democrat myth. Their myths go on much longer. They still think Michael Brown had his hands up. That one will live at least another 15 years.

originally posted by: jrod

There is more evidence that the MAGA crowd tried to cheat in 2020 and still lost than there is evidence that Trump should have won.

Are you guys too blinded from living in the MAGA echo chamber to realize the projection that comes from Trump.

It seems like every accusation he makes is really a confession.

They didn't cheat because they changed the rules in their favor and just used that. Mass mailings on voters that had not been cleaned up for decades is a start to all massive voter harvesting on a level never seen before. With the pandemic, there is no way the brain-dead guy campaigning from a bunker beat out even the massive turnout for Obama without a crazy level of vote harvesting.

The cheating was to change the rules to allow all that to happen.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Both sides lie but if you cant see that the election fraud cries are another divide and conquer tactic not the truth then I don't know what to tell you because you think you already know more than "the other side".

Remember when you thought "Cyber Ninjas" would uncover evidence of voter fraud?

How did that go?

Did you forget that Trump cried rigged election several times in 2016 when he lost a primary race?

Remember 2020 do ya? No question that Biden cheated using Obama's Mafia assisted voter fraud methods. Tony Rezko trained Obama how to win his senate seat. They expanded upon it for 2020 so Obama could continue transforming America into his communist mom and dad's life long dream.

Voting results aren't supposed to ever do that, it's not possible in a fair election.

I just hope this same anomaly doesn't happen this time. (But watch closely if it does.
It's also obvious you are so hopelessly biased against acknowledging obvious election anomalies that none of this will convince you.

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a reply to: MetalThunder

You have to pass it to know what's in it.

The fact you all are already convinced the election is rigged if Trump loses, before a single vote is counted, tells me you have been manipulated already into rejecting the results if Kamala win.

Your confirmation bias will prevent you from looking at the results with reason and logic.

Instead you will cling to hyperbole from far right 'fake news' sites and take Russian trolls posting on Twitter as evidence to support your claims.

www.defenseone.com...

www.theguardian.com...

www.timesofisrael.com...

Video that depicts voter fraud part of Russian Disinformation campaign

Pro Trump influencer paid for sharing video by Russian disinformation campaign

a reply to: jrod

No actually I'm convinced Democrats are cheating like wild animals and maybe Trump can overcome with legit votes and exposures of cheats.

People will enjoy their Kamala (with Biden policies) bankruptcies. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Using this logic, Trump must have cheated in Florida.

The states you cite all count their early and mail-in ballots arter the polls closed, those ballots especially in 2020 heavily favored Biden.

Florida counts those ballots as soon as the polls open and Biden had a substantial lead in Florida until 7pm because of the mail-in and early votes, when the votes from election day came in Trump jumped ahead just as Biden jumped in states that count early and mail-in votes after the polls close.

The like of reason and critical thinking by the you folks who are already convinced yourselves that if Kamala wins the election is rigged.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

Gore absolutely should have won Florida. Had the hand count continued he likely would have won it. Instead the Supreme Court shut it down with a 5 to 4 vote.

Thousands of ballots were thrown away that would have counted for Gore because of 'hanging chads'

The butterfly ballot in Palm Beach alone resulted in enough votes going to Pat Buchanan that were intended to be for Gore.

Sure, ill informed voters not correctly reading their ballot and punching the right hole or checking their ballots for hanging chads was a major factor, however I think throwing out 10s of thousands of ballots that clearly had a vote but were rejected by the computer not being allowed to count was ludicrous.

Gore did not help himself by conceding then changing his mind on election night also was a big factor.

Regardless, Gore accepted the results unlike Trump who did things like calling election board members in Michigan and asked them not to certify the results and of course begging Georgia to 'find votes ' so he could win.

originally posted by: jrod
The fact you all are already convinced the election is rigged if Trump loses, before a single vote is counted, tells me you have been manipulated already into rejecting the results if Kamala win.

Your confirmation bias will prevent you from looking at the results with reason and logic.

Instead will cling to hyperbole from far right 'fake news' sites and take Russian trolls posting on Twitter as evidence to support your claims.

www.defenseone.com...

www.theguardian.com...

www.timesofisrael.com...

Video that depicts voter fraud part of Russian Disinformation campaign

Pro Trump influencer paid for sharing video by Russian disinformation campaign

www.forbes.com...
It's just a vast right wing conspiracy. DERP!

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Using this logic, Trump must have cheated in Florida.

The states you cite all count their early and mail-in ballots arter the polls closed, those ballots especially in 2020 heavily favored Biden.

Florida counts those ballots as soon as the polls open and Biden had a substantial lead in Florida until 7pm because of the mail-in and early votes, when the votes from election day came in Trump jumped ahead just as Biden jumped in states that count early and mail-in votes after the polls close.

The like of reason and critical thinking by the you folks who are already convinced yourselves that if Kamala wins the election is rigged.

The difference is that Florida actually manages to count the votes in a day and doesn't hold back ballots to the middle of the night to count them in secret.

It can predicted to 100% accuracy which counties in which states will be late returning their counts. That's because every election the same places - all Democrat run - are waiting to see what is needed.