Steal the vote alive and well

a reply to: network dude

Get over it. There was ZERO evidence of fraud on 2020 but you guys live in an echo chamber and refuse to accept reality.

Trump deserves to lose this race.

Had done the right thing and conceded in 2020, he would easily have won this year had he campaigned on inflation and immigration instead of hateful rhetoric, lies about the 2020 and overall rhetoric that divides the nation.

Instead he did the anti-American thing and undermined faith in our elections and went on a campaign that focused on this.

It is sad that you folks fell for this divide and conquer tactic and continue to believe the lies from Trump and his campaign.

Instead of recognizing how unpopular Trump is with over half the US and deservingly so, you go full tin foil hat to cope with being butt hurt because your guy lost.

Sure there are bad actors on Twitter and here that intentionally push this divisive rhetoric, but is sad how many of you guys believe blatant false information that aligns with your confirmation bias without doing any due diligence.

a reply to: jrod

You really do believe your own lies, and the same lies that CNN has pushed for so long. I find that to be quite fascinating.
The sociological aspects are interesting as well.

You are under a very strong delusion, but to be on the outside of it and witnessing your behavior is quite the spectacle.

Thanks for the opportunity to see and study it!

lol

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

Get over it. There was ZERO evidence of fraud on 2020 but you guys live in an echo chamber and refuse to accept reality.

Trump deserves to lose this race.

Had done the right thing and conceded in 2020, he would easily have won this year had he campaigned on inflation and immigration instead of hateful rhetoric, lies about the 2020 and overall rhetoric that divides the nation.

Instead he did the anti-American thing and undermined faith in our elections and went on a campaign that focused on this.

It is sad that you folks fell for this divide and conquer tactic and continue to believe the lies from Trump and his campaign.

Instead of recognizing how unpopular Trump is with over half the US and deservingly so, you go full tin foil hat to cope with being butt hurt because your guy lost.

Sure there are bad actors on Twitter and here that intentionally push this divisive rhetoric, but is sad how many of you guys believe blatant false information that aligns with your confirmation bias without doing any due diligence.

There is zero doubt that the election was stolen in 2020.
You'd have to believe in an extraoridinary set of circumstances to think otherwise.

Pre election law changes and flagrant election rules against state laws.
Massive vote drops in the dead of night across multiple swng states going 100% for Biden
Fake stories like burst water pipes meaning everyone had to be kicked out whilst counting continued in secret.
The fact that the votes stopped across multiple swing states and then counts continued in the early hours shows clearly a level of coordination that can not be denied.
1000's of sworm statements ranging from poll watchers being denied access to counts to boxes of ballots turning up.

This is a classic case of coming home to find your house burned down and a seeing a guy with a petrol can and a box of matches standing outside. You know well he burned your house down, but you still have to prove it - and in the case of the election the courts simply would not touch it.

There should have been a complete and thorough investigation , but there never was.

As for division - stop gaslighting.
The left do not want unity. They spend all their efforts driving division - calling Trump voters Nazi's, garbage, etc. whilst the sitting Govt are actively targeting political enemies and putting them in jail or bankrupting them.
The rhetoric and actions from the left is orders of magnitude worse than anything from either the Trump campaign or Trump supporters.
The entire Harris campaign has been about insulting Trump and his supporters - it's built on 'not Trump' with lie after lie. It's the most divisive campaign in the history of politics.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Both sides lie but if you cant see that the election fraud cries are another divide and conquer tactic not the truth then I don't know what to tell you because you think you already know more than "the other side".

Remember when you thought "Cyber Ninjas" would uncover evidence of voter fraud?

How did that go?

Did you forget that Trump cried rigged election several times in 2016 when he lost a primary race?

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

You really do believe your own lies, and the same lies that CNN has pushed for so long. I find that to be quite fascinating.
The sociological aspects are interesting as well.

You are under a very strong delusion, but to be on the outside of it and witnessing your behavior is quite the spectacle.

Thanks for the opportunity to see and study it!

The left lives in an echo chamber never progressing. They still spout the same crap from years ago. A few of my extreme left friends I just ask them to open up their areas where they get their information. Many just get it from memes some 40-year-old guy living in his mom's basement makes.

I list a lot of different podcasts of people/groups that talk about issues and look deeply at them from many different perspectives, and all the left does is repeat the same dribble that MSNBC vomits out daily. Many still say on Jan 6 the rioters killed many people, how do you even deal with that, and then just times that by 100 more.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

You really do believe your own lies, and the same lies that CNN has pushed for so long. I find that to be quite fascinating.
The sociological aspects are interesting as well.

You are under a very strong delusion, but to be on the outside of it and witnessing your behavior is quite the spectacle.

Thanks for the opportunity to see and study it!

The left lives in an echo chamber never progressing. They still spout the same crap from years ago. A few of my extreme left friends I just ask them to open up their areas where they get their information. Many just get it from memes some 40-year-old guy living in his mom's basement makes.

I list a lot of different podcasts of people/groups that talk about issues and look deeply at them from many different perspectives, and all the left does is repeat the same dribble that MSNBC vomits out daily. Many still say on Jan 6 the rioters killed many people, how do you even deal with that, and then just times that by 100 more.

Jan 6th has become the big lie - there was never anything resembling an insurrection. It was a protest that turned violent, no more. The only person killed was a protester - albeit one who took the protest too far.
It's a sacred cow for the left, though. A big lie that is massively important to their propaganda narrative.
It's so ingrained as a shaming tactic in debates that many members of the right in politics are afraid to tell the lefties they are debating to STFU about an 'insurrection' that didn't happen.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Both sides lie but if you cant see that the election fraud cries are another divide and conquer tactic not the truth then I don't know what to tell you because you think you already know more than "the other side".

Remember when you thought "Cyber Ninjas" would uncover evidence of voter fraud?

How did that go?

Did you forget that Trump cried rigged election several times in 2016 when he lost a primary race?

No party has ever claimed election rigging and fraud as much as the democrats.
Worse they have even conspired to create fake investigations to underpin their lies about stolen elections.
They don't just deny elections, they manipulate cheat, lie, and destroy lives to try and drive the narrative that they were robbed.
When a party is known to have denied an election result was legitimate and concocted Russiagate and peddled it for years, they have no business complaining when there are claims of fraud when they win.

a reply to: UKTruth

There is more evidence that the MAGA crowd tried to cheat in 2020 and still lost than there is evidence that Trump should have won.

Are you guys too blinded from living in the MAGA echo chamber to realize the projection that comes from Trump.

It seems like every accusation he makes is really a confession.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: UKTruth

There is more evidence that the MAGA crowd tried to cheat in 2020 and still lost than there is evidence that Trump should have won.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

There was ZERO evidence of fraud on 2020 but you guys live in an echo chamber and refuse to accept reality.

Which is it? You can't have it both ways bud.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: UKTruth

There is more evidence that the MAGA crowd tried to cheat in 2020 and still lost than there is evidence that Trump should have won.

Are you guys too blinded from living in the MAGA echo chamber to realize the projection that comes from Trump.

It seems like every accusation he makes is really a confession.

I am not in a MAGA echochamber. I think Trump is an idiot.
I will not deny it's existence - for some in MAGA their echo chamber mirrors the one that some on the left operate in , just the opposite perspective.

Regardless though - it is obvious to any rational person that the Democrats rigged the 2020 election, both before with the use of the media to suppress negative news stories and of course fabricate the most elaborate of hoaxes regarding Russia, but also during with stopping the counts and then 'finding' 100% batches of 10's thousands of votes for Biden in the dead of night, and then also after when they destroyed or withheld evidence that could be used to audit the results.

In a normally functioning society, this should not be a debate - the entire electorate should have been demanding forensic investigation of the 2020 election, not rushing to claim victory and validate the results. Being on the winning side of cheating is no place to be, because what goes around comes around.

If the Republicans do find ways to cheat, you for example will have to take it on the chin, because complaining about it will make you an 'election denier' and a huge hypocrite.

To be honest - you are already coming across that way, because no party have denied election results, claiming they were illegitimate, as the democrats have.

a reply to: PorkChop96

I should have said there is ZERO evidence of fraud that would change the results.

...but you just want to find a strawman to attack since you do not like telling you Trump lost 2020.

The handful of voter fraud that was discovered was overwhelming for folks giving Trump extra votes.

This is well documented.

a reply to: UKTruth

ATS is a MAGA echo chamber.

I also suspect some, especially one or 2 of the most frequent thread starters might be bad actors trying to push an agenda that fuels division and hatred amongst the American people.

a reply to: jrod

You are so quick to assume someone is pro Trump just because they call you on your BS, it is quite hilarious. I am well aware that Trump lost, that was 4 years ago, only people like you are so hung up on it that it affects every aspect of your life.

Let's go ahead and get on all of the potential fraud that has come out in the last 10 days, what do you have to say about all of that?

The thousands of registered voters that should be removed that states are leaving on the registry, the states that are demanding electors certify the results even if they have suspicion of fraud or inaccurate results, people being forced out of/not allowed to go in to voting sites. The list could go on and on.


Just remember, if you don't vote for Harris, you are garbage, not man enough, deplorable, racist, zenophobic, homophobic, etc.

originally posted by: UKTruth

To be honest - you are already coming across that way, because no party have denied election results, claiming they were illegitimate, as the democrats have.

Are you serious? Do you believe what you write?

The last 4 years have been nothing but Trump supporters complaining about a rigged election.

A handful of hardcore Hillary supporters cried fraud in 2016 but they were a tiny minority, less than 1%. They certainly did not try to stop the election from being certified. Even other Democrats laughed at them.

Yet over half of Republicans are still crying rigged election fraud over 2020 but have yet to provide any evidence of such.

In 2000 when the election truly was stolen, Gore and the Democrats took it on the chin because they thought it would be bad for the country to undermine the voting system. Again no one tried to stop the certification on January 6th.

Only once in modern times has a political party actively tried to block certification on January 6th....

Do I need to tell you which party did that?

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude

Get over it. There was ZERO evidence of fraud on 2020 but you guys live in an echo chamber and refuse to accept reality.

Trump deserves to lose this race.

Had done the right thing and conceded in 2020, he would easily have won this year had he campaigned on inflation and immigration instead of hateful rhetoric, lies about the 2020 and overall rhetoric that divides the nation.

Instead he did the anti-American thing and undermined faith in our elections and went on a campaign that focused on this.

It is sad that you folks fell for this divide and conquer tactic and continue to believe the lies from Trump and his campaign.

Instead of recognizing how unpopular Trump is with over half the US and deservingly so, you go full tin foil hat to cope with being butt hurt because your guy lost.

Sure there are bad actors on Twitter and here that intentionally push this divisive rhetoric, but is sad how many of you guys believe blatant false information that aligns with your confirmation bias without doing any due diligence.

You might want to remove you head from it's dark moist smelly place, and read what I wrote, this time, with your brain engaged. (at lest first gear) Regardless of any fraud that may or may not have existed in 2020, that sh!t won't fly this time. And if you are right, and voter fraud is just a "vast right wing conspiracy", then no harm, no foul. On the other hand, is someone tries some shady sh!t this time, the entire weight of the justice system will be on them. The right will demand it, and the left will have ZERO choice in how they react. Proven fraud (however small) will be a maximum sentence and jail will be the only safe place those folks can hide. But again, if nobody does anything wrong, there won't be anything to worry about. Or do you think BAMN should apply again, and rules be damned?

a reply to: PorkChop96

Then why do you blindly believe I support Harris?

a reply to: network dude

It is more likely deranged Trump supporters will try something than the other way around.

A wise man once said "Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine"

Alan Lichtman said this.

The Democrats are too spineless to attempt to steal the election, they are also too spineless to stand up when an election gets stolen as we saw in 2000.

a reply to: jrod

Guilty conscious on your end, I never said you do.

Good job avoiding the questions though!

a reply to: jrod

A handful of hardcore Hillary supporters cried fraud in 2016 but they were a tiny minority, less than 1%.

Dont forget 2000, and 2004.

Quite a few prominent democrats have frothed at the mouth over election results, in 2008 and 2012 I dont remember seeing much from the republicans beyond well our candidate sucked.