E. coli Outbreak Linked to McDonald’s Quarter Pounders

a reply to: strongfp

I didn't know that. I don't think I have ever had a quarter pounder.

@Naftalin
Yeah, I know a lot of those. I'm guessing downy Mildew is the same as Powdery mildew? That's what its called here I believe. It loves wild bergmont!

No surprise . . . . . (but no mention of this E.coli ❗️❗️)

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a reply to: chiefsmom

Yeah, I know a lot of those. I'm guessing downy Mildew is the same as Powdery mildew? That's what its called here I believe. It loves wild bergmont!

They are two different diseases. You can recognize the powdery mildew because it looks very white and sticks to the leaf surface.

The downy mildew looks very different and is not so easy to recognize, and is often confused with a lack of nutrients if you are not familiar with the downy mildew. A clear characteristic is scattered leaf lightening, chlorophyll degradation, which is why the region turns yellow. The areas are sharply separated by the leaf cells. These dry out and holes and cracks form in the leaves.

At the beginning of the infection, the downy mildew is rather blurred and flows into the healthy leaf cells. Only later do you see clear demarcations due to the leaf cell dividing walls, because that is where the infection stops.

It's best to look at pictures, then you'll quickly see the difference and never forget it again.

a reply to: Naftalin

Do we know if any of this you describe is part of the McD E.coli problem?

a reply to: xuenchen

A member asked me something and since I have the information, I shared it.

If that's too off-topic for you, go and cry to the mods.

originally posted by: Naftalin
a reply to: xuenchen

A member asked me something and since I have the information, I shared it.

If that's too off-topic for you, go and cry to the mods.

No not off topic. People might wonder what's all involved in this E.coli thing.

McD apparently hasn't commented in detail. 😀

a reply to: xuenchen

One of the usual source of Escherichia coli, especially in vegetables, is faecal contamination.

It sounds like the strain in these cases is probably Shiga toxin-producing E. coli (STEC).

E. coli is killed by cooking. If the contaminated foods had been properly cooked, there would have been no outbreak.

This speaks to two steps in the provision of the foods both being inadequate: the source contamination (or cross-contamination), and the inadequate preparation, and sounds possibly deliberate.

a reply to: chr0naut

Can you elaborate? You might be on to something! 😀

a reply to: chr0naut

Yup....some dirty bastards need to wash those hands before handling you food. This is usually what gets people sick not bad food.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut

Can you elaborate? You might be on to something! 😀

Fast foods chains have fairly strict standards on food preparation, and reasonably so because having a disease outbreak associated with their brand is a disaster on sales.

For this reason, there are standards of preparation involving, washing of hands, surfaces and utensils, the wearing of gloves and hairnets, timing and temperature standards on cooking, and procedures that prevent cross contamination between raw and cooked foods. Especially so at McD's.

Yet this particular multi-state occurrence indicates that the foods were likely contaminated before being shipped to the individual stores, and also that food preparation standards were not being adhered to at the stores (perhaps someone was aware of a culture within the stores where people were cutting corners in preparation)?

At any point, this outbreak could have been prevented, but it wasn't.

A live bacteria infected customers. This could have been stopped at multiple stages prior to the foods being presented to customers, but not one of those stages did stop, or kill, the live bacteria.

It sounds suspiciously deliberate.

a reply to: chr0naut

You are correct and this actually happens more times that most people know. Vegetables are a big one where they may not be washed in the place of service.

I did hospitality front and back management for years. Food handling 101 is not always followed. The things I have seen keep me from eating out.

Coincidence Trump is at McD's and this is released...LOL>

a reply to: xuenchen

probly from sitting too long in freezer since
they now cost $8