Candidate DONALD TRUMP Answering Questions from HISPANIC voters at Univision Town Hall 10-2024.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Tariffs do one things. They increase how much we pay for for imported products.

So using Mexico as an example. Anything made in Mexico would effectively be more expensive to buy. That would dissuade Americans to choose alternate products that are cheaper. That's assuming that what you wanted to purchase was made in this country or elsewhere. This would effectively hurt American consumers by increasing prices on many things.

a reply to: Annee

My God.
Your tangential word salads are getting more and more deflective, irrelevant, and illegible too. Get real 😀

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Bingo!

We are witnessing first hand how The MSM is influencing People to condone crime and incompetence. ☠️☠️🆘

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: network dude

Once on US soil immigrants (legal or not) are guaranteed due process.

Change the Constitution.

Poor sweet liberal, that doesn't change the part where it's illegal. Once on US soil, where the border was crossed as a spot other than a legal port of entry, it's a crime. I was even nice enough to post the exact crime.

I do understand that the left isn't into "prosecuting crimes" these days, so the confusion is expected.

So using Mexico as an example. Anything made in Mexico would effectively be more expensive to buy.

a reply to: grey580

You are missing the point. The tariffs are sometimes used to stop the companies from leaving. I did a little extra legwork for you. Skip to 5:50 and start to listen. You are not thinking of tariffs the way Trump is planning on using them.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: network dude

Once on US soil immigrants (legal or not) are guaranteed due process.

Change the Constitution.

Yes, and they can at that point get legally and constitutionally prosecuted for illegal entry. 🤣🤣

And how long does that take?

Change the Constitution.

the Constitution is fine, making idiot lefties follow the laws on the books is the current hang up. Don't like the law, change the law, not following the one's you think are mean is something a DERP would do.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

So using Mexico as an example. Anything made in Mexico would effectively be more expensive to buy.

a reply to: grey580

You are missing the point. The tariffs are sometimes used to stop the companies from leaving. I did a little extra legwork for you. Skip to 5:50 and start to listen. You are not thinking of tariffs the way Trump is planning on using them.

Even the EXPERTS were miffed by how well Trump's economic people made the U.S. Economy so robust in 2017 thru 2019.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

So using Mexico as an example. Anything made in Mexico would effectively be more expensive to buy.

a reply to: grey580

You are missing the point. The tariffs are sometimes used to stop the companies from leaving. I did a little extra legwork for you. Skip to 5:50 and start to listen. You are not thinking of tariffs the way Trump is planning on using them.

Even the EXPERTS were miffed by how well Trump's economic people made the U.S. Economy so robust in 2017 thru 2019.

a reply to: grey580

At 33:39 seconds listen to the France Macron example on tax/tariff. Could you imagine Kalalama doing that? I don't think so.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Companies leave this country because the labor costs are cheaper in other countries.

I've seen companies close departments here in the US and hire people in Mexico to work remotely. Or other countries where labor is cheaper.

Tariffs are a tax.

If you want to be taxed more. Then vote for Trump.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Tariffs do one things. They increase how much we pay for for imported products.

So using Mexico as an example. Anything made in Mexico would effectively be more expensive to buy. That would dissuade Americans to choose alternate products that are cheaper. That's assuming that what you wanted to purchase was made in this country or elsewhere. This would effectively hurt American consumers by increasing prices on many things.

And quite substantially if the parts for what they are making (or raw food items, such as bacon, pork, beef, chicken) comes from other countries. That will shut down a lot of industries in the US or make their products incredibly expensive. For example, most of our chips for electronics comes from the far East. Cobalt (needed for batteries) comes from Africa. Can't find it here in the US. Internal modem may have come from Germany, and the WiFi card may have come from India. Even the motherboard may have been made (base material) and manufactured (circuits laid down and chips soldered in) in India.

It would take time to build those factories in the US, to find workers and train them, and to get raw material (or R&D ways to use only materials sourced here in the US)... so expect the cost of a phone or microwave or even clothing to have huge jumps in price until we can get everything moved to the US... and then it'll still be pretty darn expensive.

The rich will get around it by traveling to other countries, buying stuff there, and bringing it back as "gifts" to be sold later. Elon Musk won't have any problem getting the electronic toys he wants for his company. The rest of us... will have to make do or do without (and generally the latter) -- so we'll quickly slip behind the rest of the world in technology.

a reply to: Byrd

People hear Trump say tariffs are great! Not realizing that tariffs will hurt their wallets.

The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.

The rich will get around it by traveling to other countries, buying stuff there, and bringing it back as "gifts" to be sold later

Elon Musk won't have any problem getting the electronic toys he wants for his company. The rest of us... will have to make do or do without (and generally the latter) -- so we'll quickly slip behind the rest of the world in technology.

a reply to: Byrd

Yea sure, because Elon Musk hates people, Elon has done zero humanitarian good for the world his choices and judgement is all about Elon. "Rich People", those creepy rich people will fly around the world to buy things and then fly back to the US while the non-rich suffer. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. If you watch the interview I linked and take a look at the metrics from Trumps first 3 years as president then you could only conclude one thing, the world was safer our country was safer and more people from all backrounds made more money. You really think Kalalama is going to make this country safer and more prosperous? Seriously? You just don't like Trump and would rather have your country suck than have Trump make it better. That is shameful

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

So using Mexico as an example. Anything made in Mexico would effectively be more expensive to buy.

a reply to: grey580

You are missing the point. The tariffs are sometimes used to stop the companies from leaving. I did a little extra legwork for you. Skip to 5:50 and start to listen. You are not thinking of tariffs the way Trump is planning on using them.

Even the EXPERTS were miffed by how well Trump's economic people made the U.S. Economy so robust in 2017 thru 2019.

Not really.

Economies are hard to shift. Administrations can change in the wink of an eye, but the economic effects and economic engine created still runs for some time before the new administration can turn it completely.

Most of the "successes" were simply the results of the previous administration.

Now, if you're controlling the narrative, then you can say "oh, the economy's terrible but the moment I got into power, everything changed and then it was the best around" -- but it isn't true. There's a good answer about this (going into all the details) on Quora: www.quora.com...#:~:text=How%20long%20does%20monetary%20policy,to%20have %20get%20desired%20effect.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Somebody stop those jetsetting cheapskates!
Except it doesn't work that way

Yep, U.S. Customs import duties are a real thing - even on "gifts"

If a Package is Subject to Duty

If a package is subject to duty, the United States Postal Service will collect it from the addressee along with any postage and handling charges. The sender cannot prepay duty. The recipient must pay duty when a package is received in the United States.

U.S. Customs

Round trip airfare, accommodations, shipping charges (if the item won't fit in your luggage like an electric Chinese car), plus import duties sure doesn't sound like a money-saving tactic for the rich - never mind the time and hassle.

Just lib hyperventilating over imaginary scenarios.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: marg6043

Meanwhile kamala and biden is allowing anybody to come across the border then giving them tax payer money, hotels and medical care.

You are feeding into the BS. If Republicans really wanted to stop illegals from crossing the border. They would have changed the laws that govern this. There would almost certainly be bi-partisan support for this. But, they have not. So ask yourself. Why haven't they?

Haha. Yeah and if the Dems were “serious” about it, they never would’ve created the situation they’re blame everyone else for in the first.

Pathetic.

Next.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

The rich will get around it by traveling to other countries, buying stuff there, and bringing it back as "gifts" to be sold later

Elon Musk won't have any problem getting the electronic toys he wants for his company. The rest of us... will have to make do or do without (and generally the latter) -- so we'll quickly slip behind the rest of the world in technology.

a reply to: Byrd

Yea sure, because Elon Musk hates people, Elon has done zero humanitarian good for the world his choices and judgement is all about Elon. "Rich People", those creepy rich people will fly around the world to buy things and then fly back to the US while the non-rich suffer. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. If you watch the interview I linked and take a look at the metrics from Trumps first 3 years as president then you could only conclude one thing, the world was safer our country was safer and more people from all backrounds made more money. You really think Kalalama is going to make this country safer and more prosperous? Seriously? You just don't like Trump and would rather have your country suck than have Trump make it better. That is shameful

No, I said that because he's so very wealthy that he can afford the increases caused by tariffs. And you may chuckle at the idea of the rich flying off to buy what they like, but it's a rather standard practice (remember medical tourism? From whiskey to perfume to cars to... just about anything you want... for the wealthy, it's fairly easy to get around the global economic systems to get what they like.

For average joe like you and me? Nope. No Can Do.

This is how tariffs work: Charles makes Cheap Chips in Chocoland, which isn't part of the US. He's been selling them to the US for $1.00 each, which is about 5 times what it cost him to make the Cheap Chips. In steps Trump saying that If they want to bring in Cheap Chips, the US will charge them $1.00 per chip. In order to make a profit on the Cheap Chips, they have to raise the price of Cheap Chips from $1 to $3.

Who pays the $2 difference? That would be the people buying the Cheap Chips, which includes car and appliance makers. Now their component prices are going up, and if your computer (from made in the USA HomeGrown Computer Store) uses 10 types of Cheap Chips on the motherboard, the expense of making that computer went up $30. HomeGrown Computer Store is not going to swallow that $30, since they've got sales people to pay, insurance to pay, rent on the building, electricity, water, sewage, etc, etc. They raise the price of your computer by $50.


And that's how tariffs work. Just ask the US soybean growers, who were hit after Trump stuck tariffs on soybeans and China retaliated with a trade war (all about the soybean tariffs) It wasn't a glamorous story, so you probably missed it. However the farmers were pretty angry about it.

a reply to: Byrd

Maybe if maybe what maybe this or that. Your explanations are as good as Kamala's. Neither actually clarify anything. 😀

Some real examples (provable) would be in order but that may be impossible yeah?