An explanation of the hurricane government help anger

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: network dude

It's not so much Desantis but also the entire infrastructure of the State of Florida is used to natural disasters. So they are geared up and ready for when they come. Almost all new construction since Andrew is coded to withstand hurricanes. So when one does hit it's easier to recover. Other states that don't have regular hurricanes are not prepared. Coming from Florida to Georgia, you can see that the infrastructure is not the same. (Though I am starting to see them replacing transmission line poles to the new standard.) And any sort of natural disaster that hits is going to cause a lot of damage. And will take time to repair. I will say one thing about GA though. When it comes to declaring an emergency. They are on top of things. The Governor declares a state of emergency ahead of time. I imagine so it's easier to get disaster funds from the fed.

You are right Florida got blistered for its emergency response for Hurricane Andrew and others in the late 80s and 90s. This led to better resources and management planning but that was because they had gone a while without a direct hit from a major hurricane, as well as all the new waterfront property development.



Id imagine we will see some kind of genesis of that in North Carolina

Tennessee had a similar deal with our State gov getting yelled at, as I like to call it and they didn't get offended. They rolled up their sleeves after the immediate needs were met to get ideas from the Emergency Responders. This thing hit and TN responded. NC looks like it was hit worse, but their response was to wait and the Feds have Helo's there but had no orders to use them according to the Florida Nat Gaurd unit leader of the Special ops.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: SteamyAmerican

Not according to that document. It looks like it's up to the state to request aid.

As I've seen done in Florida, the state declares a state of emergency, the national guard comes out to render assistance along with local and county services, then FEMA comes in later to give money and more support.

Imagine how much more waste and money spent there would be if FEMA stock piled stuff and then just had teams sitting around waiting for a disaster to occur.

Well you have that totally wrong. There is a stockpile in east Tennessee,
Lost Sea Cavern. I have seen it. Food and water for 10,000 people for at least a month. Probably stale being survival rations but much better than starving. That area of the cave is huge. Only one restroom stall though.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: SteamyAmerican

Not according to that document. It looks like it's up to the state to request aid.

As I've seen done in Florida, the state declares a state of emergency, the national guard comes out to render assistance along with local and county services, then FEMA comes in later to give money and more support.

Imagine how much more waste and money spent there would be if FEMA stock piled stuff and then just had teams sitting around waiting for a disaster to occur.

Sure. But the government is so good at allocating funds “elsewhere”, ya think some sound wisdom in disaster preparedness might draw on experience.

As in:

“An ounce of prevention…”

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

Is there any information about that online? I'd be interested to see who administers taht.

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

Everything that I've read seems to affirm the FEMAs stance "that disaster response is “locally executed, state managed, and federally supported,” in that order, putting state and local governments ahead of the federal response." And also from what I've seen living in Florida. And makes a certain sense. Natural disasters affect us at a local level and the response should be at the local level. By people that live in the community. FEMA giving support to those who know the area makes sense. Apparently at the federal level they introduced a bill to try to coordinate efforts to improve our resiliency to natural disasters. And work to streamline federal response to climate hazards. But that will take time.

a reply to: grey580

Apparently their reforms were bull snip or the FEMA guys heading up the situation on the ground just are like Tycoons rolling the way the want.

a reply to: network dude

All public accounts contradict this narrative.

Fema and fed gov have not even picked up the ball, everything is a photo op for campaigning.

UH 60s loaded up with O4s standing by, never left the tarmac.
Photo op.

FEMA HQ staged up with staff and supplies, never moved.
Photo op.

People are surviving because neighbor and fellow County men & women have stepped up with private resources.

America is helping its own, Uncle Sam is just posturing.

I'm a hurricane Katrina volunteer.
Posted about it here on ATS.

Never have I been so disgusted and disdainful of my own Gov for being completely worthless.

The blatent TREASON of so called elected representatives, is appalling and makes me furious!

I have not been this pissed off, since Diyala Province 2007...

🤬

a reply to: Justoneman

We didn't get hit nearly as severely as NC did here in SC, but 2/3 of the state was without power at one point. It took at most a week to get everyone's power back, most of it restored in 48 hours or less. Although there was some concern here in north-central SC about some of the dams further up in Lake Norman failing and causing cascading issues down into SC dams, luckily, that didn't happen; otherwise, we would have been much worse off. I get the impression that since the SC coast does get a fair bit of hurricane remnants, there is a level of emergency preparedness that some other states like NC lack.

a reply to: Hypntick

My family in Greenville area had to suffer about three days of no power, but that is not at all bad. It is one of those things.

Better blame someone in a position to help. Try a Democrat.

a reply to: Boomer1947

originally posted by: Dalamax
Better blame someone in a position to help. Try a Demonrat.

a reply to: Boomer1947

Fixed it for you. But I don't think RINO's, like we see raising their heads too, should be left out because some of them play Right leaning minimize gov types during the day and Demonrats at night when we can't shine a light on them.

Biden and FEMA sent chainsaws to NC.
THE PROBLEM, they were electric chainsaws and the people that they were sent to have no power.
www.youtube.com...
Only the democrats can be so dumb,