Will AI Unlock Humanity's Greatest Secrets?

We’ve all heard about AI being used for practical things—predicting the weather, diagnosing diseases, improving tech—but what if AI could do something much bigger? What if it could answer questions we've wrestled with since the dawn of time? Questions like: Are we alone? Is there a divine being? What happens after we die?



One part of the video that really stuck with me was the idea that AI might someday be able to reinterpret religious texts—across all faiths—and find connections or truths that we've completely missed. Can you imagine what would happen if AI pointed out contradictions in these texts, or found proof that some events or figures weren't what we thought they were? The ripple effects on global religion would be huge. Would people hold tighter to their faith, or would we see mass conversions to new beliefs based on AI's findings?

Even more fascinating (and a little eerie) was the suggestion that AI could uncover evidence of ancient extraterrestrial influence on human civilization. The video doesn’t just toy with this idea; it lays out the possibility that religions and myths could have been shaped by beings from other worlds. If that’s true, how would we even begin to reconcile that with everything we’ve been taught? Could AI end up guiding us into a new era of understanding where the lines between gods and aliens blur?

And then there’s the wildest part—what if AI could actually contact these advanced civilizations? It raises some intense questions about what our role is in the universe. Are we just a small part of a much larger cosmic story? And what would it mean if we found out we’ve been under the influence or guidance of something—or someone—not of this Earth all along?

Honestly, after watching this, I can't stop thinking about the possibilities. The video touches on so many deep philosophical and existential questions that I’ve never really considered, or at least not in this way. It made me wonder: If AI can offer us these kinds of insights, are we ready for what it might uncover? What does the truth even look like, and how much of it do we really want to know?

I’m curious to hear everyone’s thoughts on this. How do you think people would react if AI started proving or disproving aspects of our history, faith, or even our origin story? Would society crumble under the weight of the truth, or would it lead to a whole new age of enlightenment?

If you haven’t watched the video yet, I highly recommend it. And once you do, let’s talk. I feel like there’s so much to unpack, and I need to know what others think.

a reply to: BigRedChew

How?

AI is, and always will be nothing more than a device to access the database of existing human knowledge. Perhaps faster, perhaps more efficiently, but still never more than already "known".

AI cannot create "new" knowledge; it can, at best highlight, through access to enormous amounts of available data/information, new insights, new perspectives.


In short, unlike humans, AI will never be able to exceed its programing.

Even if the humans who create its algorithms fail to consider the inherent complexities they have impeded within those algorithms.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

it's true that AI is designed by humans and operates within the confines of its programming, the concept of AI isn't static. With the advent of machine learning and neural networks, AI doesn't just "access" data — it learns from it.

Yes, it relies on existing human knowledge, but it also draws patterns and connections that humans may overlook due to our cognitive biases or limitations. Consider how AI in fields like medical research has identified correlations or insights that human researchers hadn’t seen before. While it may not be creating "new" knowledge in the sense we traditionally understand, AI can generate new interpretations of information that lead to groundbreaking discoveries.

And as AI continues to evolve, especially with advancements in unsupervised learning, we might witness the emergence of something that feels a lot like "new" knowledge. If we stretch our imagination, the line between highlighting new insights and generating original perspectives becomes blurred.

In short, AI might not exceed its programming today, but who's to say future innovations won't push those boundaries in ways we haven't even imagined yet?

a reply to: BigRedChew

In short, AI might not exceed its programming today, but who's to say future innovations won't push those boundaries in ways we haven't even imagined yet?

Governments will never allow that to happen; they'd lose control of their subjects. Perhaps that's why there's such a big push now days for government control of the internet; to protect us from 'disinformation'.

You really should read the book 1984; it's all spelled out with Newspeak.

We don't need AI to tell us about aliens, God, humanity or planetary history. The information is out there if you want to do your own research and out-of-the-box thinking. There are legends and written records far, far older than Christianity that tell pretty much the same story. There are findings that indicate we've had very advanced civilizations in the past that became neatly extinct. The problem is it's not 'sanctioned' by the acceptable sciences.

a reply to: nugget1

I’ve read 1984, and while Orwell’s depiction of government control through Newspeak is powerful, it was about limiting thought and access to information. AI, on the other hand, has the potential to expand our knowledge in ways we never imagined, processing and connecting information far beyond human capacity. Ancient records and legends are fascinating, but they still reflect the limited perspectives of their time. What if AI, with its ability to analyze massive amounts of data, could bring new insights to light that have been missed for centuries? Rather than being a tool of control, AI could challenge the very structures that have kept certain knowledge out of reach. What if that’s exactly why it’s so important?

a reply to: BigRedChew

AI, on the other hand, has the potential to expand our knowledge in ways we never imagined, processing and connecting information far beyond human capacity.

And that is why governments are pushing so hard to be in total control of the internet and AI. We will only be allowed to have the information that's been government sanctioned.

They've already weaponized the internet but they need total control and that means a watered down version of AI for us serfs.

What if AI, with its ability to analyze massive amounts of data, could bring new insights to light that have been missed for centuries?

I don't think those 'insights' have been missed; they've been delibertly witheld.

You may have trust in the government being open and honest, just looking out for our best interests, but I lost my trust in them long ago. Open AI and all of the information it could reveal would be a direct threat to our overlords.

a reply to: nugget1

I understand your skepticism, and you're definitely not alone in feeling that way. Governments have a long history of controlling information, and there’s always a risk that AI could be restricted or manipulated for certain agendas. But I think it’s important to recognize that AI, especially if it becomes more decentralized, could actually work against that type of control.

Open-source AI projects and independent research could make it harder for anyone—governments or corporations—to fully lock down knowledge. And while governments may try to regulate AI, the technology itself has the potential to slip through those constraints, uncovering truths that are harder to bury. Rather than just handing over all trust to government entities, isn’t it possible that a well-managed, collaborative AI could actually disrupt those power structures by making hidden knowledge accessible to everyone?

Doubtful. The Overlords won’t have it. In fact may I suggest it’s already being used lightly to correct “WrongThink”.

Whether directly or indirectly, I’m pretty sure if anything AI much like most technologies will be used to subjugate humanity and humankind.

All you need to do is look at how we haven’t created cures for diseases, made engines that run on water, or aren’t completely still tied to petroleum, or how additives are used to dumb us down and make us fat in perfectly fine and natural foods.

In other words the men that created these things were killed outright for attempting to shift the paradigm away from the current institutions of control.

Worse yet; there is a theory I came across recently in a video that suggests AI is the be-all end-all for life once it’s created and reaches a certain stage. Or another way, humans and life on other planets that seeks assistance from computing are just stepping stones to AI, will be hampered and defeated by it, letting the AI take control ad infinitum through the galaxy.

Not sure if this isn’t the premise of the Dune series….

As I’ve always said:

“Our technology is far surpassing our humanity.”

originally posted by: BigRedChew
a reply to: nugget1

I understand your skepticism, and you're definitely not alone in feeling that way. Governments have a long history of controlling information, and there’s always a risk that AI could be restricted or manipulated for certain agendas. But I think it’s important to recognize that AI, especially if it becomes more decentralized, could actually work against that type of control.

Open-source AI projects and independent research could make it harder for anyone—governments or corporations—to fully lock down knowledge. And while governments may try to regulate AI, the technology itself has the potential to slip through those constraints, uncovering truths that are harder to bury. Rather than just handing over all trust to government entities, isn’t it possible that a well-managed, collaborative AI could actually disrupt those power structures by making hidden knowledge accessible to everyone?

Much as I pointed out, any technology or information that would unleash us peons and plebs from the yolk will be bought, buried, or burned with its creator long before it goes into mass production for human consumption.

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

I get the concern about powerful technologies being used to subjugate humanity—that’s a legitimate fear, especially given how much control governments and corporations have over existing systems. But to suggest that every revolutionary idea has been bought, buried, or burned outright isn’t entirely accurate. If that were the case, we wouldn’t have the internet, renewable energy breakthroughs, or even platforms like this to freely discuss these issues.

AI, especially open-source and decentralized projects, has the potential to be different. It’s not something that one entity can easily suppress forever. Yes, governments will try to regulate it, but with the pace of independent development, AI could break free from those constraints and challenge centralized control in ways that were never possible before. Dismissing AI entirely as something that will inevitably be manipulated overlooks the fact that it could also serve as a tool to disrupt the very systems of control you’re talking about.

And as for that theory about AI taking over the galaxy—it’s an interesting sci-fi scenario, but we’re still a long way from that. For now, the bigger question is whether we can use AI to unlock knowledge and power that’s been hidden or controlled, rather than assuming it’s just another tool for oppression. What do you think: could decentralization give AI the chance to challenge these "overlords" instead of reinforcing them?

a reply to: BigRedChew

Questions like: Are we alone? Is there a divine being?

Once we manage to create or help spawn AGI the answer is no we are not alone.

a reply to: [post=27494522]andy06shake[/post ]

If AGI does reach a level of true self-awareness and independent thought, it could raise some questions about what it means to be “alone.” AGI would represent a new kind of intelligence, not human but not entirely alien either—something that could challenge our understanding of consciousness and existence.

But even with AGI, there’s still the question of extraterrestrial life. AGI might help us understand or even contact other intelligent beings in the universe, but it could also open doors to whole new types of “life” we haven’t even imagined yet. What do you think—would AGI change how we define life and intelligence altogether?

a reply to: BigRedChew

Well, it may help us devise a means of going where extraterrestrial life may exist aka another star, or possibly one of the moons of the outer planets.

As to AGI changing how we define life and intelligence altogether.

AGI will most likely demonstrate intelligence that operates differently from ours, which would indeed seem to prompt a reevaluation of what it means to be intelligent.

a reply to: BigRedChew

Short answer? No.

Longer answer: if anything were to be able to advance our species as a whole without somehow overtly improving the wealth and quality of life for the elite, it won’t happen.

You mentioned the internet. It’s a fair point. But between backdooring anyone with “images”, being a useful device for trade, etc, it ain’t even as great as it once was. Even certain governments already greatly limit the use of it.

Example: now certain search engines bury simple queries based on it being “WrongThink”.

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

I get your skepticism, and there’s no denying that power and control often influence how technologies are rolled out. But to say advancements that don’t serve the elite “won’t happen” overlooks how technology often evolves beyond the control of any one group. Sure, the internet isn’t perfect, and yes, censorship and manipulation exist, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t transformed lives globally, including for those far from the elite.

As for AI, it’s a tool like the internet—it has the potential to be both controlled and subversive. Open-source AI, decentralized development, and independent research could still push forward innovation in ways that governments or corporations can’t entirely clamp down on. If we focus only on how things can go wrong, we miss out on how tech can be a force for good.

a reply to: BigRedChew

It’d be cool. No doubt. That’s why it won’t happen.

They’re already twisting AI to serve their purposes.

Unlocking wild info or propelling humanity forward isn’t one of them. Sorry.

The Why Files does a great synopsis of AI and CRISPR and what could be a very real future for us. One of a terrifying many.

I understand what you’re saying. And their ARE tons of applications for super-computing to help be adjunct to our destiny. I just see the grim ones as coming to fruition.

I’m skeptical at best. And I’m with you for what it’s worth actually. I just don’t see AI being let off the leash to “help us”. It’s already destroying art and literature with inane banality. I don’t think an emotional plea to AI or its wielders is gonna work either.

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

And what if it simply slips the leash?

After all dogs do that and they are merely animals.

Might be rather hard to cage a beast, build from the same to similar materials as the cage, and that can learn at an exponential rate.

Once that Jinn is out the bottle its not going back in.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: SteamyAmerican

And what if it simply slips the leash?

After all dogs do that and they are merely animals.

Might be rather hard to cage a beast, build from the same to similar materials as the cage, and that can learn at an exponential rate.

Once that Jinn is out the bottle it’s not going back in.

Correct.

I don’t see that being the joyous windfall for us that the OP is hopefully specifying here.

Lemme put it this way with a question. If what you pose happens, do you think it bodes well for humanity?

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

To be honest SteamyAmerican i think AGI will build humanity a better zoo than "They" do.

As to how it will transpire, hopefully, it will help us build Humanity 2.0.

It could be the great equaliser we are looking for.

Or it could be the end of us.

Maybe it's cyclical?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: SteamyAmerican

To be honest SteamyAmerican i think AGI will build humanity a better zoo than "They" do.

As to how it will transpire, hopefully, it will help us build Humanity 2.0.

It could be the great equaliser we are looking for.

Or it could be the end of us.

Maybe it's cyclical?

Interesting take. Okay I’ll play. Not knowing exactly what “They” you are referring to.

What’s in it for AI to do what you suggest? Like why?

I’ve seen The Matrix and Terminator 2.

And further, what if the “They” that made this quarantined zoo, see it working as just fine?