Walz’s claim that he was at Tiananmen Square protests undercut by unearthed newspaper reports

a reply to: Justoneman

Looks like the hackers got me!

I need the one with the Eagle on it. I don't think the Soviet era symbols fits my style, but I guess it is tough stuff.

ETA

Thanks for the help "MyATS got hacked" thread!

a reply to: strongfp

My apologies for the long second quote. Something went wrong with the copy and past. Ment to only quote the part that was showing he had lied.

Here it is:

An issue of the Alliance Times-Herald dated May 16, 1989, features a photo of Walz touring a Nebraska National Guard storeroom. In the photo’s caption, the paper notes that Walz “will take over the job” of staffing the storeroom from a retiring guardsman and “will be moving to Alliance,” Nebraska. A separate newspaper article about Walz’s planned trip to China published by a Nebraska-based outlet in April 1989 reported that he planned to travel to China in early August of that year.

When asked by CNN if Walz was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests, the Harris campaign was unable to provide evidence to substantiate Walz’s claim.

A source close to Walz told CNN that “the point Gov. Walz is making when he discusses this is that some folks in the World Teach program discussed dropping out after Tiananmen Square, but he continued on with the program because he believed it was important for the Chinese people to learn about American democracy and American history.”

A news paper clearly stating that Walz planed a trip later that year. Not the time frame of the massacre.

A presidential campaign that can't supply any other evidence.

And a anonymous friend who deflects and doesn't defend the claim.

It's clear he wasn't there; why lie about it?

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Vermilion

This is the NYT source. Taken right from the article you gave.

www.mprnews.org...



Walz never states definitively that he was there during the massacre.

“I was in Hong Kong on June 4, 1989, when, of course, Tiananmen Square happened. And I was in China after that. It was very strange ‘cause, of course, all outside transmissions were, were blocked – Voice of America – and, of course, there was no, no phones or email or anything. So I was kind of out of touch. It took me a month to know the Berlin Wall had fallen when I was living there,” he said.
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His own words quoted by CNN from this interview…

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At around the 2:15 mark you’ll hear his lies from his own mouth.

Or this X link too.. x.com...

originally posted by: Shoshanna
a reply to: Dandandat3

What is the psychology of something like this? I mean. The guy wanted a date he will always remember for his wedding and picks the date of one of the most shockingly brutal displays of authoritarian anti-democracy mass murder? You couldn't pick I don't know....Flag Day? Or what I mean is it that hard to remember your wedding anniversary if it doesn't fall on some holiday or major event day?

Poor Gwen. I guess she went along with it so I don't feel that bad for her but still.

That was the part of the article that peeked my interest in this story. I could care less if a know lier is found to be lieing about something.

But who plans their wedding to commemorate a human tragedy? That's just ... well weird.

a reply to: Dandandat3

Walz wacky wife was the one who admitted to opening her windows during the Floyd riots so that she could smell the burning tires.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Dandandat3

Walz wacky wife was the one who admitted to opening her windows during the Floyd riots so that she could smell the burning tires.

Like Nero fiddling around enjoying Rome burn. She must feel like a little g god whiffing the death and rubber.

a reply to: Dandandat3

It's clear he wasn't there; why lie about it?

He has never met a lie he didnt like.

So many red flags with this guy how on earth did the choose him, heck Kaine was a better pick back in the day than this clown.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Dandandat3

It's clear he wasn't there; why lie about it?

He has never met a lie he didnt like.

So many red flags with this guy how on earth did the choose him, heck Kaine was a better pick back in the day than this clown.

It was a great way for Obama to use Holder to get rid of Walz and Harris at the same time for this throwaway election.
They know they aren’t going to win, might as well throwaway the rest of trash with it right.

a reply to: Vermilion

Really really hope your right.

He has a fat Biden head and probably wears asbestos pants to stop them bursting into flames every time he emulates his emaciated doppelgänger.

I heard the (D)onkeys are stabled in an old Hungry Jacks restaurant. Cause its the home of the whopper 👍

Wally will be telling stories about cornpipe and sniffing children before the election is done.

a reply to: 777Vader

a reply to: Dandandat3

www.foxnews.com...

seeing the left trying to spin this is so typical and so sad.

a reply to: Vermilion

It does seem he was unsure if he was there or not on the day.

But he was there I May leading up to the day of the massacre.

I don't see why this is being made into such a big deal tho.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Vermilion

It does seem he was unsure if he was there or not on the day.

But he was there I May leading up to the day of the massacre.

I don't see why this is being made into such a big deal tho.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE:


You guys keep saying the good guys are liars with lies as proof.

Now the bad guys YOU CALL the GOOD GUYS are caught lying. You are OK WITH IT!!


THAT is the reason.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Vermilion

It does seem he was unsure if he was there or not on the day.

But he was there I May leading up to the day of the massacre.

I don't see why this is being made into such a big deal tho.

it's a lie. Either they matter, or they don't. But you can't cry buckets about Trump and Vance talking about cats on the Webber grill, then pretend Walz lying about his "political street cred" is nothing, it makes you look idiotic.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Vermilion

It does seem he was unsure if he was there or not on the day.

But he was there I May leading up to the day of the massacre.

I don't see why this is being made into such a big deal tho.

it's a lie. Either they matter, or they don't. But you can't cry buckets about Trump and Vance talking about cats on the Webber grill, then pretend Walz lying about his "political street cred" is nothing, it makes you look idiotic.

Like a couple of others on ATS, he is cool with that and is in "so be it" mode.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Vermilion

It does seem he was unsure if he was there or not on the day.

But he was there I May leading up to the day of the massacre.

I don't see why this is being made into such a big deal tho.

You don't have a problem with a man who is "unsure" if he was present during one of the human tragedies of our life times? Thousands of people murdered and maimed and "I might have been there, but I'm not sure ... but I did plan my weeding to commemorate the event ... so that I could 'remember' my wedding day"

Sounds like he might have caught a case of the Bidens.

a reply to: Dandandat3

If you look at the time line of the days leading up to the massacre China already had protests going on and civil unrest in late May. Walz was in Hong Kong and in China up until late May.

I still don't see how him slipping up once means anything.

More Deceit in plain sight - as opposed to a false memory

The Receipts :

Repeatedly over the years, Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota has said that the year he spent teaching in China began with a trip to Hong Kong during the pro-democracy protests in the spring of 1989 that culminated in the deadly crackdown that June in Tiananmen Square in Beijing.

As recently as February, Mr. Walz said on a podcast that he had been in Hong Kong, then a British colony, “on June 4 when Tiananmen happened,” and decided to cross into mainland China to take up his teaching duties even though many people were urging him not to.

Mr. Walz had told the same story a decade earlier, at a congressional hearing, when he testified that he “was in Hong Kong in May 1989,” adding, “As the events were unfolding, several of us went in. I still remember the train station in Hong Kong.”

But it was not true. Mr. Walz, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, indeed taught at a high school in China as part of a program sending American teachers abroad, but he did not actually travel to the country until August 1989.

Tim Walz Said He Was in Hong Kong in 1989 During Tiananmen. Not True.

a reply to: network dude

At least he admitted he misspoke. And since you insist on dragging Donny into this, he lies so often you can't even keep up.