EU Fraudulently Morphs From Shopping Facilitators To Extreme Warmongers

Britain's membership of what was then primarily an economic union came into effect on 1 January 1973. Since then the Community has developed into a much broader entity . . .

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Most of us voted out. en.wikipedia.org...

. . . the EU is being directed by people who drool about war . . .

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This fraud was planned from the beginning by those who believe they have to bring on the apocalypse to get the after-apocalypse goody bags.

Two key posts – in foreign and defense policy – reveal the militarist and anti-Russia direction of the European Union.

Ursula Von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission – which works as the executive branch of the European Union – announced her new team of commissioners for the next five years.

Taking over as foreign affairs minister for the 27-nation bloc is Kaja Kallas who is a staunch Russophobe and vigorous supporter of Ukraine. Kallas has called for more EU and NATO military funding for Ukraine to “defeat Russia” and the break up of the Russian Federation.

The former Estonian prime minister has led the movement to destroy Soviet Red Army monuments across the Baltic states. (This is while her investor husband continues to profit from doing business with Russia.)

Working closely alongside Kallas will be another rabid Russophobe, the former Lithuanian prime minister Andrius Kubilius, who is taking up a newly created EU post as defense commissioner. The creation of that post is an alarming sign of how the EU bloc has transitioned from a trade and political union to a military organization.

But what’s even more alarming is the assigning of such an anti-Russia hawk as Kubilius to oversee military policy.

At a time when relations between the EU and Russia have become so fraught with tensions, the European bloc is giving politicians from hostile Baltic states a driving seat to push relations even further towards conflict.

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a reply to: TimBurr

The EU isn't acting alone; the entire western world seems hell-bent on destroying what is and creating what will be....whatever that evolves into.

a reply to: TimBurr

Where to start...

The non sequitur about Brexit?

The simple mathematical error about the vote?

Or the fact that the EU has never had a defence or foreign policy, an issue which has been going around and around since the early 90s and the start of the Balkan wars?

a reply to: BasicResearchMethods

Where to start...

How about: Strategic Culture Foundation is in Russia.
Since they are still in operation in Russia maybe they print what is acceptable by Putin standards.

a reply to: FullHeathen

Thanks for that. I noticed there were no contact details or mission statement.

a reply to: TimBurr

Only because the majority of people live in England and Wales.

Scotland and Northern Ireland did not vote for Brexit.

As to the fraud well i have to ponder exactly who it is that's benefited from Brexit thus far.

Because it's certainly not the common people from the UK.

Autrerity is still all over the island, but still no social housing to accommodate the numbers that require such, and our NHS still on her arse.

Then there are the immigration issues which one would have imagined the likes of Brexit was supposed to address.

And now a Labour government is trying to take away our pensioner's warm home discount???!!!

I'm inclined to believe the poor sods that voted for Brexit will be planted in the ground long before they see any of the positives promised.

If it was not so bloody tragic it would be hilarious if I'm honest.

a reply to: BasicResearchMethods

mediabiasfactcheck.com...
There's a search bar at the top. Just type or paste the source in.

This line got me:

Kallas has called for more EU and NATO military funding for Ukraine to “defeat Russia” and the break up of the Russian Federation.

So wait! Is Ukraine part of the Russian Federation?
Putin seems to be the only person who claims that.

Ukraine is not fighting to break away
They fight to stay away.

a reply to: FullHeathen

Seems to me Putin has made several statements suggesting that Ukraine is not a distinct nation but rather an integral part of Russia.

Ukraine never had a stable tradition of genuine statehood.

Ukraine is not just a neighboring country for us. It is an inalienable part of our own history, culture, and spiritual space.

Following that sort of logic, Ukraine would seem to be fighting for its very survival as a sovereign nation.

a reply to: andy06shake

As you know Andy I was a big supporter of Brexit.....and I still am. Same as the vast majority of people I know who voted in favour of leaving the EU.

I feel the lack of progress made since Brexit has had more to do with the incompetence of our elected representatives and their reluctance to enact the will of the people than anything else.

Like many I watch events on the continent and I really don't see how they have it any better. Everywhere faces the same or similar problems we face at present and each constituent nation seems to have their own individual issues as well.
Disquiet with the EU is still steadily rising in countries like France, The Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Spain.

The only thing that seems to have checked this has been Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
Its highlighted the need to show a united front in defiance of his aggression.
Personally I feel that we don't need the EU for that; our exit from the EU does not exclude us from having shared interests especially concerning security and defence etc. And existing organisations like NATO and common intelligence sharing agreements seem to cover all that already.

If the EU was still a Free Trade Association with a common market I suspect many of us would still be reasonably ok with continued membership......but as you know its long ceased being just that.

The EU is bloated, undemocratic and rotten to the core....we're well shot of it.
Its not the actual act of leaving the EU that has harmed us, its the deliberate and intentional inaction and inertia of those twats in Westminster and their incompetence that has prevented it from being as successful as it should have been.....and still can be.

a reply to: Freeborn

I just want to know what we have won after all this time Freeborn?

It's an honest question.

And my answer thus far would have to be the booby prize in spades.

I accept Brexit mate, can't go backwards only forwards.

It could indeed bring positives in the far future.

But whose pockets has it lined thus far after near enough half a decade?

Certainly not yours or mine.

If there is a light at the end of the tunnel, fact is a lot of people are never going to see it.

And it may very well turn out to be a big train.

a reply to: andy06shake

Brexit is merely the ability to vote for a government who can enact our wishes free from the constraints of the EU bureaucracy.
Such as one that will renationalise those industries we want renationalised and support them rather then tender for the cheapest competition.

And yes, I am aware of various supranational organisations that will still stick their oar in but as far as the EU is concerned. they are another layer that we simply do not need in this regard.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Well, it's a sh@t show thus far by my guess.

Again it might be nice if the people who voted for such actually got to see some positives they can touch and feel this side of the grave.

Just my opinion SprocketUK.

And now with Labour trying to take away the Warm Home Discount, it could be argued they were punishing the very same demographic that voted for Brexit.

Shameful really, and i voted for them(Labour).

Again it would be hilarious if it were not so fecking tragic.

a reply to: andy06shake

Sovereignty, that's what we've gained mate.
Unfortunately we still have the same types governing us that we've always had - self-serving, arrogant, pompous arseholes who don't give a toss about the likes of you and I.

Our elected representatives failed us miserably, as they usually do.
The did everything possible to derail and delay Brexit and their 'negotiations' with the EU were what can only be described as incompetent.
How many of those appointed to secure, negotiate and deliver Brexit were actually committed to it?
Very few.

Who's benefited from it?
The Usual Suspects.....as always.

But let's face it, those countries still in the EU have not fared any better than we have since Brexit......and it least we have the opportunity to change things around for ourselves, something denied them.

We need to start demanding the change we want to see.....this set of twats are certainly not going to deliver it.
They have betrayed everything The Labour Party used to be and what it stood for and represented.

a reply to: Freeborn

We need to start demanding something that's for sure.

Sovereignty we can print on a teeshirt, it needs to mean something tangible.

And like you suggest it's always the same set of twats that profit.

Who dont really care much about politics if we are honest, domestic or continental.

As to Labour, i mean, WTF happened???!!!

I knew it was a vote for the lesser of two evils but...................

Pieces on a chessboard really.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ukraine would seem to be fighting for its very survival as a sovereign nation

Pretty much.

This thread seems to mostly be addressed to UK members.

As an American, I must say that my thinking about Ukraine has evolved quite radically over the last 20 years. That's pejoratively referred to as flip-flopping.

Pres. W. Bush said he "looked into Putin's eyes, and read his soul" and concluded he could deal with him. So U.S. tried more cooperation. Didn't last long. Bush started encouraging NATO expansion. It was quite shocking in 2006, when the NATO summit was held in Latvia.

Personally, I thought the cold war was over and NATO was a relic of the past. Putin was constantly complaining that Bush was placing missiles in NATO countries. Bush would claim "They aren't aimed at Russia, they're about Iran." I'm pretty sure he was lying.

I think it was about that time that Putin decided that Ukraine must be so closely tied to Russia that it would never join NATO, so he did nefarious things to make it so, including poisoning West leaning politicians. Then there came the time Ukraine got rid its Moscow ally and went West leaning.

That seems to me that given a binary choice, Ukraine chose West. Now I think, it's sort of unfair to all concerned to force an either/or, what's wrong with a both choice?

I'm probably naïve or idealistic or something. Regardless, Ukraine is an independent country.

a reply to: FullHeathen

If i had a crystal ball FullHeathen.

And once this Ukraine fiasco is over and done with.

I think i may see another 50 years of Cold War to be on the horizon.

Simply down to the fact that Putin has made Russia the European pariah for the foreseeable by way of his horrendous antics and depraved failed land grab.

a reply to: andy06shake

I think i may see another 50 years of Cold War to be on the horizon.

Hopefully, Putin doesn't have some heir apparent waiting in the wings. Haven't heard of any.

Hopefully some other opposition party leader will still live to come out of prison to get elected.

a reply to: FullHeathen

That's the real kicker.

Any sort of replacement may well be far worse if such a thing is possible.

Aside from creating a martyr.

That's is probably what stops the likes of our respective security forces from blowing his head off.

There is always hope, but given the level of hatred that must have been generated on both sides, and given the fact that entire generations have been decimated, i would not hold regarding forgiveness this side of the year 2100.

originally posted by: andy06shake


As to the fraud well i have to ponder exactly who it is that's benefited from Brexit thus far.

Because it's certainly not the common people from the UK.

Autrerity is still all over the island, but still no social housing to accommodate the numbers that require such, and our NHS still on her arse.

Then there are the immigration issues which one would have imagined the likes of Brexit was supposed to address.

And now a Labour government is trying to take away our pensioner's warm home discount???!!!

I'm inclined to believe the poor sods that voted for Brexit will be planted in the ground long before they see any of the positives promised.

Brexit was never about sovereignty. We had sovereignty. That's how we got a referendum in the first place.

It was not about immigration. There are plenty of tools available to EU governments, even in Schengen, to control immigration.

It was about control of the Tory party and getting rid of EU social protections to enable further economic deregulation. Politicians like Kwasi Kwarteng and Priti Patel, and economists like Patrick Minford, had made this for years.

Everything else was just window dressing to get people to vote to leave.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: andy06shake

Brexit is merely the ability to vote for a government who can enact our wishes free from the constraints of the EU bureaucracy.
Such as one that will renationalise those industries we want renationalised and support them rather then tender for the cheapest competition.

The government could always enact our wishes free from the constraints of the EU. That's why we got opt outs. That's why we had subsidiarity. That's why we had a referendum.

Nationalisation and state aid are the left wing arguments for Brexit. That's why Corbyn was so keen on it. Thing is, the left are nowhere near power. Instead, we get fewer rights to enable a few people to make even bigger profits.