Four Killed Dozens Injured in Mass Shooting in Alabama by Multiple Attackers

a reply to: DAVID64

I’m just bringing attention to the reality of the situation. A criminal in the US can buy an illegal hand for a few hundred dollars, yet cross the border to Canada and that same hand gun is going to cost the same criminal thousands of dollars.

I’m actually fascinated with how easily accessible guns are in the US and how people are legally able to use them to defend themselves from a Perceived threat… 3rd largest county by population in the world, guns everywhere, yet for the most part society there runs pretty smooth.

Still though, feel like the democrats are fighting a good fight to make it harder (more expensive) for criminals to obtain a gun. Semi auto rifles should obviously also be highly restricted, they can just cause to much damage in the wrong hands.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: DAVID64

I’m just bringing attention to the reality of the situation. A criminal in the US can buy an illegal hand for a few hundred dollars, yet cross the border to Canada and that same hand gun is going to cost the same criminal thousands of dollars.

I’m actually fascinated with how easily accessible guns are in the US and how people are legally able to use them to defend themselves from a Perceived threat… 3rd largest county by population in the world, guns everywhere, yet for the most part society there runs pretty smooth.

Still though, feel like the democrats are fighting a good fight to make it harder (more expensive) for criminals to obtain a gun. Semi auto rifles should obviously also be highly restricted, they can just cause to much damage in the wrong hands.

Most shootings aren’t with semi automatic rifles, they’re with handguns. So you take all the rifles and the same # continues…then what?

You’re high if you think criminals would have a hard time getting guns, keyword being “criminals”. They take what they can’t buy. Besides they’re already armed to the hilt.

The only thing democrats want to do is take guns away from law abiding gun owners. If they really wanted to do something about gun violence they’d start enforcing the law. They refuse to do that, what does that tell you?.

Pass all the useless gun laws you want, it’s not going to fix the problem.

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I think there was a big bust on Glock Switches just a Few Days ago.
There was an Article on Ammoland News.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge2
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I'm not going to.
Where was this shooting.
I used to live in North Alabama .. Madison .. outside Huntsville.
If you went to the mall there, sometimes you'd come out and
the cars would have bullet holes.

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a reply to: KrustyKrab

Canada is literally on the same land as the US. Yet if you’re in Canada it’ll cost you thousands of dollars to buy an illegal gun, but cross the border into the US and it costs a criminal just a few hundred dollars to buy an illegal gun.

There’s clearly a problem there… how you even going to deny it?

Was that Before or After Midnight ?

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: Hypntick

Sweet home Alabama, where full auto glocks roam free.

Birmingham AL gave Biden a landslide victory vote in 2020. The crime rate there is celebration. 😀

Background Checks That's How .
Just Proves they Don't Work on Criminals.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: rickymouse
Sounds kind of like this shooting had nothing to do with honest law abiding citizens owning guns.

Taking guns away from good people is not going to solve this problems. Taking guns away from loose cannons, criminals, and gangs will stop these shootings. We need guns to protect us from criminals and crazy people and of course irate bears that want our food or who have a grudge against people. And it is also good to have a gun to protect ourselves against a pissy skunk that threatens us quite often, and an occasional other wild animal that is hungry or cranky.

Why should everyone suffer because of these bad people who own guns.

How does a gun seller tell the difference between 'good people' and 'bad people'?

How does gun ownership stop someone from being shot at random?

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: JadedGhost

You know the definition of "criminal" right ?

Someone who doesn't obey the law. You can write all the anti gun laws you want, put all the restrictions you want and they'll still ignore it, just like they do now.

Make the punishment so sever they'll be afraid to do it.

But that's not the Democrat way is it ?

Just keep infringing on the Rights of the law abiding citizens and let the real criminals go free.

Exactly.
Add to the fact that lefty/weak/progressive DA’s keep downgrading weapons felonies, refusing to even charge for them, or making them disappear via diversion programs.

Personally i think we need to go back to wild west justice. RObber shot running from a crime? justified. defending someone ? justified. We dont need the courts to deal with all criminals. Its why people used to be able to take matters into their own hands as long as it was done legally. Gang problem? get a posse together and rub em out. All you have to do is pass a legislation that states if you are doing a crime you give up all rights to a trial unless you surrender.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: KrustyKrab

Canada is literally on the same land as the US. Yet if you’re in Canada it’ll cost you thousands of dollars to buy an illegal gun, but cross the border into the US and it costs a criminal just a few hundred dollars to buy an illegal gun.

There’s clearly a problem there… how you even going to deny it?

Seriously? That’s because we have 400 million guns here, there’s no shortage of guns here unlike commie Canada of course black market guns would be cheaper. Not sure what your point is? You’re not making much sense trying to compare the two countries.

I’ve already said a couple of times what the biggest problem is. Lack of a justice system that holds people accountable and a broken society. We have liberal judges, AG’s, DA’s and prosecutors that don’t uphold the law, people committing crimes are out in a matter of hours because of them, there are no consequences. Keep voting blue and you’re going to get even more of it or you can keep blaming guns that aren’t ever going away. Is there something you’re not getting?

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: KrustyKrab

Canada is literally on the same land as the US. Yet if you’re in Canada it’ll cost you thousands of dollars to buy an illegal gun, but cross the border into the US and it costs a criminal just a few hundred dollars to buy an illegal gun.

There’s clearly a problem there… how you even going to deny it?

Your Red Herrings are getting more stale by the hour. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: chr0naut

The problem here for decades has been prosecutors using the federal mandatory sentencing for use of firearm during crimes as a negotiation tool to get criminals to plead guilty to lessor sentences making a revolving door situation.

originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: chr0naut

The problem here for decades has been prosecutors using the federal mandatory sentencing for use of firearm during crimes as a negotiation tool to get criminals to plead guilty to lessor sentences making a revolving door situation.

This is very true. Robbery with a firearm….. well drop the weapons charge if you plead guilty to the robbery charge, happens everyday, all day.

a reply to: JadedGhost

Back in the seventies and eighties, I knew people who sold guns. I was asked if I wanted to buy any, I asked the price....the guns were more expensive than buying one brand new. So I mentioned this to the guy I knew who sold the illegal guns and asked him why they were so expensive. He told me that the guns were for people who were not allowed to buy guns or did not want anyone knowing they had a gun. I had legal guns and could get a pistol anytime I wanted to and told him that...he said a lot of people could not do that and he sold to those guys. He knew I would not turn him in, I was one who could be trusted and most people knew I was like that. So I just wasn't his customer, but remained a friend for years. I guess he died a violent death over thirty years ago, he hung around with some bad people...his customers...and one of them killed him I heard.

I knew a few more guys who dealt in illegal guns, but he was the only one that I knew well enough to ask about stuff like that

originally posted by: bluesman023
Background Checks That's How .
Just Proves they Don't Work on Criminals.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: rickymouse
Sounds kind of like this shooting had nothing to do with honest law abiding citizens owning guns.

Taking guns away from good people is not going to solve this problems. Taking guns away from loose cannons, criminals, and gangs will stop these shootings. We need guns to protect us from criminals and crazy people and of course irate bears that want our food or who have a grudge against people. And it is also good to have a gun to protect ourselves against a pissy skunk that threatens us quite often, and an occasional other wild animal that is hungry or cranky.

Why should everyone suffer because of these bad people who own guns.

How does a gun seller tell the difference between 'good people' and 'bad people'?

How does gun ownership stop someone from being shot at random?

Background checks don't stop criminals sending out someone with a clean record, as a buyer.

I mean, how in-depth is it possible for a seller to even go?

originally posted by: Hypntick

According to one report, the weapons used were modified Glocks that would shoot full auto, which has apparently been a problem in Birmingham as of late. Saw a couple of witness interviews as well, it's definitely gang violence.

Who would want to shoot a full auto Glock? Pretty stupid idea.

originally posted by: chr0naut

Background checks don't stop criminals sending out someone with a clean record, as a buyer.

I mean, how in-depth is it possible for a seller to even go?

You are assuming the clean person buys the gun for the bad person. Easy way to go to jail too.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

Canada is literally on the same land as the US. Yet if you’re in Canada it’ll cost you thousands of dollars to buy an illegal gun, but cross the border into the US and it costs a criminal just a few hundred dollars to buy an illegal gun.

There’s clearly a problem there… how you even going to deny it?

It is up to 5x the price of a legal gun. There is risk involved that you pay for too.

a reply to: chr0naut

being a straw buyer is also illegal and in many states if that firearm is then used in commission of a crime that straw buyer is now on the hook as an accessory.

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Saw a blurb on this today (running the midget around for his birthday celebration) that this was a hit, so the odds the gun was legitimately purchased are non existent.

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
a reply to: SecretKnowledge2

I really don't see the point anymore in reporting these incidents.

No one wants to have THE CONVERSATION about the cultural problems this stems from.

It's not normal or acceptable to shoot everything that doesn't go your way!! It's also not normal to hear these stories and as a first thought, you think someone brown probably did it and 95% of the time, you'd probably be right!

That's not normative behavior. Give me a reason not to think that it's either gang related, some groomed and dumped nutjob at a school, or a teenager "who never gets in trouble and is always smiling...he was into sports....he can make you smile toooo..."🙄🥱💤

Why does it seem to always be one of those three?🤷🏻

If there were no murders (urban, wars, domestic) humankind would be extinct by now, due to too many of us consuming resources.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: SecretKnowledge2

According to one report, the weapons used were modified Glocks that would shoot full auto, which has apparently been a problem in Birmingham as of late. Saw a couple of witness interviews as well, it's definitely gang violence.

They’re a problem everywhere. In the gang world, if you don’t have a full auto Glock with a hi-cap mag you’re not #.

You can pass all the gun laws you want but they’re not going to fix the broken society we’ve created for ourselves. I’m afraid we’re unfortunately past the point of return to a civilized society in America. It sure doesn’t help we have our friends on the left that are continually stoking the flames of violence like the democrat politicians are doing with their violent rhetoric against Trump calling him a threat.

Yes, and never mind the races divide flamed futher by the Soros/Gates funded MSM