20 Supporters Seated Behind Trump Onstage Rushed to Hospital

a reply to: Degradation33

Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders skipped a $45,000 bill in 2016.

from your article.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: FlyersFan

It's Tucson, so who knows. The city in general "burns your eyes," and it's certainly NOT MAGA country.

Before the rally, Pima County Supervisor Adelita Grijalva sparked backlash by posting a profane sign on social media. The sign, which read “F you MAGA, no more Orange” in Spanish, was captioned, “Welcome to Tucson.” At a subsequent Pima County Board of Supervisors meeting, constituents demanded an apology from Grijalva. However, she stood by her actions, stating, “I’ll acknowledge wrongdoing when Trump apologizes for the racist, misogynistic, sexist, inflammatory comments he’s made about women, people of color, LGBTQ…”

Grijalva wasn’t the only notable Tucson figure to oppose the rally. Music legend Linda Ronstadt, whose name adorns the venue, also disapproved. Taking to social media, Ronstadt criticized Trump for holding the event at a building associated with her legacy, stating her deep opposition to his policies.

So there's some opposition from 1971's Ugliest City in America.

This could be household mustard gas. Someone cleaned the stage with amonia and bleach combined. Or some mop bucket containing the mixture off-stage was left closest to the stands.

Maybe it's payback for the $86,000 he owes them?

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Thats a massive deflection from the topic of the thread FWIW.

Makes absolutely no sense, nice little quip for the like-minded I suppose but pretty much weak sauce for the undecided and independents at this point of the election season.

So he owed $86,000 and they paid $145,000 upfront? why not $172,000. Did the cost of the venue go up that much in 4 years?

If this were happening to anyone else, the entire thing would be on lockdown while all kinds of government agencies investigated.
Because it is Trump and his supporters, they just shrug their shoulders and make excuses.

As I saw mentioned elsewhere, it's unquestioned intimidation tactics because his rallies draw huge numbers, No more no less


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Before the rally, Pima County Supervisor Adelita Grijalva sparked backlash by posting a profane sign on social media. The sign, which read “F you MAGA, no more Orange” in Spanish, was captioned, “Welcome to Tucson.” At a subsequent Pima County Board of Supervisors meeting, constituents demanded an apology from Grijalva. However, she stood by her actions, stating, “I’ll acknowledge wrongdoing when Trump apologizes for the racist, misogynistic, sexist, inflammatory comments he’s made about women, people of color, LGBTQ…”

Grijalva wasn’t the only notable Tucson figure to oppose the rally. Music legend Linda Ronstadt, whose name adorns the venue, also disapproved. Taking to social media, Ronstadt criticized Trump for holding the event at a building associated with her legacy, stating her deep opposition to his policies.

While the rally drew a large and enthusiastic crowd, it ended with an unexpected turn of events. Approximately 20 attendees, primarily members of the “Latinos for Trump” group who had been onstage, reported becoming ill with mysterious symptoms shortly after the rally concluded. All those who reported falling ill were seated on the side of the stage where Trump made his entrance before approaching the podium.

Pastor Eli Moreno, who opened the rally with prayer, and his wife, Francesca Moreno, were among those affected. Pastor Moreno said that he experienced mild discomfort, but his wife’s symptoms were far more severe. On their drive home, Mrs. Moreno’s nose began to run, her vision blurred, and her face swelled up. They stopped at a Walgreens and encountered another rallygoer with similar symptoms. Mrs. Moreno stated that emergency room doctors flushed her eyes earlier and referred her to an ophthalmologist. Five days later, she was just beginning to feel better.

It sounds like the effects of capsicum in pepper spray.

Pepper spray causes irritation of the eyes, skin, and mucus membranes. Inhalation exposures can cause coughing, difficulty breathing, nasal and throat irritation, and a runny nose. Eye exposures can result in pain, redness, watery eyes, difficulty opening the eyes, and sensitivity to light.

The long term effects remind me of A form of Havana Syndrome?

Acute symptoms
Loud noises, visual disturbances, head pressure or vibration, ear pain, tinnitus, hearing loss, dizziness, and unsteady gait

Chronic symptoms
Insomnia, dizziness and nausea, light sensitivity and eye strain, sound sensitivity, tinnitus and hearing reduction, impaired concentration and memory, irritability, nervousness, and sadness, fatigue, and headache[/ex

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive



Possibly but when and how was the pepper spray deployed, pepper spray is an instantaneous reaction, while this seems a bit delayed.

Seemingly no discomfort for the attendees or Trump, pepper spray hurts like a beyotch but mostly you have to be hit directly by it

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a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

In my experience of working inside event venues...I have never seen UV lights used for anything but nack of house sterilizing. Usually these days they're all LED...but some older venues may still use old style lamps. Production lighting engineer is my background...so I might know a thing or 2 about lights in venues.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

In my experience of working inside event venues...I have never seen UV lights used for anything but nack of house sterilizing. Usually these days they're all LED...but some older venues may still use old style lamps. Production lighting engineer is my background...so I might know a thing or 2 about lights in venues.

UV lights are so noticeable

in a quick look at the video I'm not seeing overt evidence of UV lighting

a reply to: putnam6

Don't pay attention to it? It wasn't meant to deflect.

The main point was there's enough haters with enough reasons for someone to "accidentally" leave a mop bucket of mustard gas (chemicals) by the stage. Or some other irritant to diffuse without being noticed.

I also wanted to make fun of Tucson a little, because if you live there, and then leave for prettier places it becomes a novelty "joke city" as seen on a Family Guy cut away and hard to approach without humor.

The dumbest city in the world could accidentally gas rally attendees by "deep-cleaning" something.

But lean more towards boiling hatred without any specific organization needed. All it takes is another lone actor with "TDS."

Could have been some kind of gas that was released in the area which triggered reactions. It would be easy for someone to smuggle a small canister with a remote control valve into the area and slowly release a gas that might be able to give those symptoms. As someone said, it could be a mixture of a couple of common chemicals like bleach and ammonia or it could be something like nitrous oxide which would give dizziness and some other side effects if the nitrogen in the environment was elevated for a while...but some symptoms stated do not match NO2. NO2 is not picked up well in tests either, like some other gasses. t might just lower blood pressure too much

There are multiple ways someone could do this kind of sabotages and some ways would be hard to detect the cause.

A headache as the lasting after effect would be common of a gas being used...nothing much shows up in blood tests many times.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: DAVID64

t a laser could be the culprit.

Hubby says the military has lasers that are invisible to the naked eye.

It's unreal how diabolical campaign tactics have become this time around.

BAMN indeed!

I figured it might be a military op using some high tech thing in the name of protecting democracy ok behalf of the party of democratic socialism. Also they cannot wait to storm people’s homes and take the guns.

sewer gas piped in from Mexico 😊

originally posted by: rickymouse
Could have been some kind of gas that was released in the area which triggered reactions. It would be easy for someone to smuggle a small canister with a remote control valve into the area and slowly release a gas that might be able to give those symptoms. As someone said, it could be a mixture of a couple of common chemicals like bleach and ammonia or it could be something like nitrous oxide which would give dizziness and some other side effects if the nitrogen in the environment was elevated for a while...but some symptoms stated do not match NO2. NO2 is not picked up well in tests either, like some other gasses. t might just lower blood pressure too much

There are multiple ways someone could do this kind of sabotages and some ways would be hard to detect the cause.

A headache as the lasting after effect would be common of a gas being used...nothing much shows up in blood tests many times.

Why would only a section of people directly behind Trump be affected then? It has to be more directed to affect only those people.

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

The long term effects remind me of A form of Havana Syndrome?

Advanced laser technology if that's the case.

Microwave or millimeter wave lasers to be more precise.

Here's some photos of an older technology microwave weapon. It's come out in a hearing that the newer technology is much smaller these days.





Here's the 60 Minutes episode on this subject: