Cell phones exploding in Lebanon mass casualties

This is a new twist on asymmetrical warfare, it looks like that there is a backdoor in communication devices to cause a thermal runaway of the lithium batteries. It appears Lebanon was targeted ,some say 200 deaths and masses of injuries. targeted and there are some pretty horrific injuries as reported by Al Jasera , an Iranian ambassador is a victim . So it looks like there is more to these devices than we first thought , it looks like explosives might be involved somehow in the device.

It is pretty sure that this is a Mossad operation which might have world consequences. CP is on the ball and does a good report.

Here we have some security footage of one going off in a market. Not for the feint of heart.

a reply to: annonentity

Look up what kind of batteries pagers use.

Then look up to see if you can even find pagers with lithium batteries.

Then contemplate what kind of draw a pager would ever use (a smartwatch probably uses more).

It’s even crazier they put explosives in all of them IMO, then sold them to terrorists.

We call this “terrorism” when it’s our foes.

“Asymmetrical warfare” when it’s our allies.

I’m sure every one of these people deserved it though.

I mean sure, they had their genitalia blown off, and won’t ever be fathers. But sooo cool right?

Directed by Michael Bay….

a reply to: annonentity

Years later and we have no prosecutions from Epsteins list but within a couple hour of pagers exploding we know Israel did it “allegedly”..
Hard to believe someone isn’t controlling the narrative around the world.

a reply to: annonentity

Pagers usually use a single stanbard AA or AAA battery. No explosive potential there.

Cellphone batteries don't really explode. They swell up and combust sometimes quickly. No bang, more of a pfiiitt over several second then burn.

What those videos show is some kind on built in explosive component that is designed for the purpose. Not even an electrolytic capacitor would blow up like that considering the size constraints that could be placed in such a device.

The prefrence to pagers seems to be used in this as most people don't use them any more. Just some drug dealers and Hamas members it seams. They are preferred by those people because they are one way devices.

They do not transmit their location while in use. They are not encrypted at all but are only a receiver and are not capable of transmitting any more than a standard fm radio would be.

This would have to be planned years in advance in the design of the pagers. Very clever use of technology specifically targeting only a few by there own choice of devices.

Well played whoever did this.

yes Margret, phones can blow up! 😡

a reply to: xuenchen

That is a pfiiit. It is not a bang like shown in the op video.

Your example could cause burning of the victim and surroundings but not shrapnel wounds.

a reply to: xuenchen

I’ve seen many videos of lithium batteries having a meltdown.
Lots of smoke, lots of flame.

These pagers batteries appear to be exploding like a small bomb.
I wouldn’t want a hot pocket..heh.. but these appear have been physically modified, not hacked.

Wonder what the collateral damage on this one will be? Its kind of hard to be sure the devices are going to go to the target unless you also have control over the sales side.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: xuenchen

I’ve seen many videos of lithium batteries having a meltdown.
Lots of smoke, lots of flame.

These pagers batteries appear to be exploding like a small bomb.
I wouldn’t want a hot pocket..heh.. but these appear have been physically modified, not hacked.

Maybe like infiltrating the playing card company and bribing the printers to mark all the new decks of cards going to the casinos? 😊

a reply to: annonentity
The manufacturer is known as Gold Apollo and were fabricated in Taiwan. Modern pagers likely use modern technology. The working theory is that a small amount (dallop?) of a thermally reactive explosive compound was placed onto the lithium battery, which was somehow remotely ordered to overclock itself (to perform maximum amount of calculations possible and continue further) in order for the board to demand excessive energy and force the battery to heat up, which then activates the explosive compound.

My only problem is, how do you force such a basic piece of tech to overclock itself enough to activate this thermally detonated compound? and two!!!! At what point were the products interdicted for this sabotage?? OOOOORRRRR, was the factory compromised by friendly assets and the entire batch known to be going to a specific client order was sabotaged at the point of fabrication.

We had a fun time at work trying to figure out the how, that is as far as we got.

And a young child was also killed by the blast. She was nine or ten, I think one of the kids of a Hezbollah chief of some sort.

For whatever reason I cannot access the Taiwan based website for Gold Apollo, linked in the first word Gold. Anyone else can make it happen?

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

This would have to be planned years in advance in the design of the pagers. Very clever use of technology specifically targeting only a few by there own choice of devices.

Makes me wonder how many places around the globe have devices capable of such a coordinated attack....and who/how many are behind such technology.

Michael Hastings on a grand scale? Could all world leaders just go poof at the flip of a switch?

Yeah, I've got a vivid imagination.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

If it was an explosive , then getting through airport security could be problematic, unless this is an explosive compound not in the repertoire of the sniffer dogs. If that is the case then every cell phone must be suspect if hostilities were to break out.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

I was trying to figure it out too.
These batteries will go into thermal meltdown occasionally but an explosion is another monster.
This would almost have to be someone physically putting an explosive inside the device. The planning and execution of that would be a thing of beauty. Don’t mean to be a jerk with people dead but the efforts involved are impressive.

I’m not to familiar with pager technology so is it even possible to remotely access their operating systems and cause battery overload?

a reply to: nugget1
If I took possession of your phone without you knowing for about thirty minutes, we could get it open in less than five minutes, apply the explosive compound to your battery, close it back up inside a ten minute window and have time to make its way back into your possession, hopefully without you knowing it was gone. Then, at a moment of my choosing, or perhaps I have been surveilling you physically waiting for the moment, I use my remote state backed resources to get into contact with your device in the background without you knowing someone is in it, force it to overclock itself by running a series of high demand computations, which will lead the battery to heat up to just the right temp required to detonate a specific explosive compound.

it does not matter who makes what, this was physical sabotage with remote activation. Without first applying an explosive compound that can detonate at the right temperature, the most your phones battery device will do is overheat and maybe fizzle out with a slight pop and swelling. The boom boom came from as small as a single drop of the compound.

Do you remember Die Hard 3, when they just used a small dallop to essentially cause a very similar sized explosion. Of course the actual plan was for much bigger boom in the movie, but it gives you an idea of how powerful a mere drop can be, just the right amount for something like this attack.

a reply to: annonentity

Strange and sometimes terrible things can happen when we're left to our own devices.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: annonentity
The manufacturer is known as Gold Apollo and were fabricated in Taiwan. Modern pagers likely use modern technology. The working theory is that a small amount (dallop?) of a thermally reactive explosive compound was placed onto the lithium battery, which was somehow remotely ordered to overclock itself (to perform maximum amount of calculations possible and continue further) in order for the board to demand excessive energy and force the battery to heat up, which then activates the explosive compound.

My only problem is, how do you force such a basic piece of tech to overclock itself enough to activate this thermally detonated compound? and two!!!! At what point were the products interdicted for this sabotage?? OOOOORRRRR, was the factory compromised by friendly assets and the entire batch known to be going to a specific client order was sabotaged at the point of fabrication.

We had a fun time at work trying to figure out the how, that is as far as we got.

And a young child was also killed by the blast. She was nine or ten, I think one of the kids of a Hezbollah chief of some sort.

For whatever reason I cannot access the Taiwan based website for Gold Apollo, linked in the first word Gold. Anyone else can make it happen?

Gold Apollo is denying they are their pagers

a reply to: putnam6

Then they were clones made in China. Which is interesting as Israel has been clocked helping China with weapons tech. Thats why I get suspicious and think great Reset. which essentially is a great theft when the dollar goes.

Vape batteries can explode due to a process called thermal runaway, which occurs when a battery overheats and ignites. This can happen for a number of reasons, including:

I'm watching that there were 5,000 pagers ordered by Hezbollah that had the explosive applied and 3,000 went off, and 2,800+ casualties. Obviously could change.

BTW this is where I'm watching it: