Sen. Johnson Asks the CDC How Many Americans Were Killed by COVID Shots

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ADVISOR

remember this was brought to you by corrupt career PARASITE politicans, who want to replace Americans with illegal aliens.

Wasn’t Operation Warpspeed a Trump endeavor?

The first vax batch was not so bad. People got it with very minimal side effects. That all changed when Biden won the election and took office in 2021, and the vax formulas changed, and we started seeing side effects in the batches in mid and late 2021. 😃

a reply to: Boomer1947

The Vax formulas changed dramatically in 2021. Dramatically! 😡

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

Wasn’t Operation Warpspeed a Trump endeavor?

He didn't make the so called vaccines though.

Would you think better of him if he had done nothing?

In July of 2020, after having funded the R&D, Trump’s operation Warp Speed placed an advanced purchase order worth 2 Billion dollars for 100 million doses of the Pfizer Vaccine on the condition that it would be approved by the FDA. In November, shortly after the election, as I recall, it WAS approved by the FDA for human use, and the Trump Administration quickly ordered another 100 million doses. All 200 million doses were eventually produced and made available to the public at no cost and injected into American arms.

Seems like that qualifies as “he made the vaccines”.

I'd ask if you are anti-vax now, but I know you aren't technical enough to answer questions in threads.

Trump removed the red tape as much as he could to get the vaccine for what he was told was a life ending illness. Idiot lefties laughed and claimed he would never be able to get it done on his timeline, he did. But the key to all of this, is he never mandated anyone to take it. He just made sure it could be available. But it's good to know you are an anti-vaxer now.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: ADVISOR

Do you see those Blue letters in the quoted section above?

Thats a link to a story, not the actual data!

Deny Ignorance??

Did you read the OP? It was never stated that there was a number yet, just that data was being requested.

Y'all are already up in arms at those trying to shed light on the people who have been deceiving y'all. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you, geez.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ADVISOR

remember this was brought to you by corrupt career PARASITE politicans, who want to replace Americans with illegal aliens.

Wasn’t Operation Warpspeed a Trump endeavor?

That was to get vaccines available for those who wanted the vaccine. Democrats were the ones forcing people to get vaccinated or lose their job when their freebies weren't working to get people vaccinated. Democrats were the ones telling vaccinated people that the unvaccinated were killing them, throwing hate to all who didn't buy into the vaccines. Trump was trying to make it an available choice to America.

Anyone remember the prediction Fauci made @ 2017? Something along the lines of Trumps administration will face a pandemic.
Now either you believe Fauci is a soothsayer or he knew the plan beforehand.

Are we to believe the vaccine was not already prepared to be rolled out? You know how Trump was able to speed it up? Because the vaccine companies advised him they could do it. He’s not a scientist, he went with what he was told. Sure he thought it would make him look good, boy was he wrong, but that is what a setup does.

How long did it take the government to admit Covid came from the Wuhan lab that Trump was publicly crucified for even mentioning? Remember how the mockingbird media continually attacked him about him saying “China”? Do you now remember where this virus originated from? The same place Fauci told you were ridiculous for even looking into. The lab that our tax payer money helped to fund. We all got played people!

This Covid outbreak was staged from the beginning, most likely to lockdown down the economy and effectively widening the gap between the middle class, make billions on a vaccine, and along with the Russian collusion hoax, helped get Trump out of office. Why Trump? Because he was, at the time, leader of the so called “free” world. Otherwise he was in the way.

Remember JFK? They didn’t have any issues with killing him and keeping it covered up, even now most of us know the alphabet agencies are responsible, but….crickets.

Some of us lived through the largest money grab in our history. Others were not so lucky.

For those that still think governments are here to save you I really, really feel for you. We are expendable to the 1%. Anyone in their way is collateral damage.

I know that some of you are still so daft that it will never sink in that many of the population was tricked into believing this farce.
All with a vaccine that was not even effective!

Now the question is, will you fall for it the next time? Because you can bet your life there will be one.

The majority of Americans are aware from seeing people they know personally having problems or die from the covid vaccines. Especially the heart problems in the youth. The government health agencies lied to us....no sheet, they seem to do it all the time.

All meds have side effects and there are risks to every one of them. The fact that they conned so many people into taking this inappropriately tested vaccine and called it safe is the evil part. We have innate immune systems, not just adaptive. If we did not have the innate system, we would be sick all the time. The innate immune system response could take care of this virus in ninety percent of people. Some medications commonly prescribed to old people with compromised immune systems and people who are on immune blockers or dampeners benefitted by the vaccine...the rest of us did not.

They should not have forced people to fear this virus with misapplied evidence like they did, they should have targetted those at high risk to get vaccinated. Being a little obese or having pre-diabetes does not make a person more at risk most times. They tried to say anyone who was a little overweight was at risk of severe illness...I did not see these kind of weighted people having any extra problems over here at all....but those on certain meds that screw up acetylcholine did have some extra problems...the meds used to treat the condition is what caused immune system inappropriate activation some times.

That is my opinion from analyzing lots of information from many sources over the years. The coverup is not over either, and Pfizer and Moderna made it perfectly clear some groups of individuals should not be taking the meds, they never stated their vaccines were completely safe and effective. That was certain individuals in government and government agencies.

a reply to: LSU2018

I agree,

But I originally responded to the OP’s whose premise is the vaccine is killing people and it’s corrupt politicians who set it all up.

It’s odd that out one side of the mouth many say that the vaccine is born out of corruption and harmful while also celebrating Trump championing the vaccine rollout.

At this point it’s almost moot if it is doing harm, I don’t know anyone who still goes to get the shots, even those on the left.

Let’s say there is some findings on harmful effects, there’s nothing we can do as part of the stipulation for the fact track was guarding the pharmaceutical companies from any lawsuits.

I think we learned:

“Warp Speed” and Vaccine research should never again be used together.

May sound harsh, but we KNOW this was only a test run-thru for REAL viruses they plan to expose us to eventually. So I am not beyond saying that this is just too risky a situation to be playing with, especially when the next disease is real. So I feel whole heartedly that this is worth stopping at any cost so people actually need to die for COVID. Faucci without a doubt, the heads of Pfizer and Moderna, any newspeople who just warped over "COVID" abd the supposed numbers and the need for the vaccine day and night, Amy employers who threatened employees or someone in the military who cut so many people who didn't want to play along, especially after they have watched the government and its use of crack, syphilis, agent orange, cheat rails, hepatitis, etc. on its people and often it's military and didn't want to play another game. Biden, Harris, any federal Congressional people who are still playing along...kill em! No joke! Don't even allow the world to take playing with health like this and possibly introducing extinction level nonsense in the next jab, or the Andromeda strain with the next fake/disguised virus.

originally posted by: ADVISOR
These questions are getting asked, no matter how much a of fit the leftists throw.

When did science become a partisan issue?

Deny ignorance?

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: Tolkien

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: ADVISOR

Yeah, links to right-wing opinion pieces hardly constitute actual evidence.

Trust in products with ZERO medium or long term testing data hardly constitute actual evidence of intelligence.

Fixed it for ya

originally posted by: BasicResearchMethods

originally posted by: ADVISOR
These questions are getting asked, no matter how much a of fit the leftists throw.

When did science become a partisan issue?

Deny ignorance?

During Covid. Maybe you don't live in the US, but science was used to stifle our basic human rights.

When people and corporations were coerced by Biden, or else lose their jobs if they did not get vaccinated, it became partisan. Do you remember the Biden mandate that companies with more than 100 employees must require vaccinations or weekly testing?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.

originally posted by: BasicResearchMethods

originally posted by: ADVISOR
These questions are getting asked, no matter how much a of fit the leftists throw.

When did science become a partisan issue?

Deny ignorance?

Science has been a Partisan issue for decades. Many decades. Think "Profit" and think "Control" and think "Power". 😊

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

It was a test, to see how far they could push the chattel.

It was on video recently being admitted to.

Yes, they do remember.

Will the potus who oversaw the creation and even praised the formation of the vaccine be held to the same account?

If we are looking for culpability it started there and then moved into next administraion with the mandate

So its easy for me, make Trump, Biden stand trial as if the vaccine is responsible then BOTH of those idiots are

it seems on ATS (no suprise) 45 often gets a free pass when talking about the creation of the vaccine

Remarks by President Trump at the Operation Warp Speed Vaccine Summit

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Please. (Applause). Thank you very much. Appreciate it very much.

We’re here to discuss a monumental national achievement. From the instant the coronavirus invaded our shores, we raced into action to develop a safe and effective vaccine at breakneck speed

the origins of that phrase thrown around on ATS at the democrats and vaccine advocates



some of the top comments from that video (they are only youtube comments)

In the end of 2022 still many believes he is on the people's side, I have no words

His supporters like to ignore this part or call it fake.

Two wings of the same bird.

Trump promotes Covid vaccines, boosters despite opposition

Dont be so blinded by your hate for 46 that you forget 45s was the oranges of the vaccine (yeah i know it should be origins, trying to make a light hearted quip)

Here is a good read .....Study

Cardiac manifestations and outcomes of COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis in the young in the USA: longitudinal results from the Myocarditis After COVID Vaccination (MACiV) multicenter STUDY

Sixty percent of young people who were hospitalized with myocarditis after receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine still showed signs of myocardial injury roughly six months after getting the shot, according to a new peer-reviewed study funded by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

originally posted by: xuenchen


Science has been a Partisan issue for decades. Many decades. Think "Profit" and think "Control" and think "Power". 😊

edit on Sep-16-2024 by xuenchen because: 🤡😡

You're confusing production with research.

I didn't realise "conservatives" were against profit.

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive


During Covid. Maybe you don't live in the US, but science was used to stifle our basic human rights.

When people and corporations were coerced by Biden, or else lose their jobs if they did not get vaccinated, it became partisan. Do you remember the Biden mandate that companies with more than 100 employees must require vaccinations or weekly testing?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.

You're confusing public policy with science.

And Trump was president during COVID...

Simplification leads to simplistic understanding.

How many died from the vaccine is a meaningless number by itself.

How many were vaccinated in total?
How many were not vaccinated?
How many vaccinated people got the disease and died?
How many vaccinated people did not get the disease?
How many unvaccinated people died from the disease?
How many unvaccinated people got the disease and did not die?

Until you have these numbers you cannot make a real determination of effectiveness and safety.