Show me the financial gain Trump got from being POTUS.

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

Most likely his reasoning is to become president again, Fix his ego , but the most important reason is to pardon himself and stay out of jail.

Then he (Trump) will plot to stay in power until he dies.

Im sure others here will flame me for this, but its MY answer to your question.

Have at it !

You do know we have a short story contest here on ATS that you should join, I dig alternative history too.

FWIW Trump has been hit about as hard legally as any President EVER. A lot of people wonder how he can be so inept and piss off the Democratic masses so.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

Most likely his reasoning is to become president again, Fix his ego , but the most important reason is to pardon himself and stay out of jail.

Then he (Trump) will plot to stay in power until he dies.

Im sure others here will flame me for this, but its MY answer to your question.

Have at it !

FWIW Trump has been hit about as hard legally as any President EVER. A lot of people wonder how he can be so inept and piss off the Democratic masses so.

And found guilty.

originally posted by: Annee
Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected

One of many in a labyrinth of side hustles.

All above board, all legal, all legitimate businesses, and all publicized not hidden like The Biden Family corruption.

What is the point of your comparisons?? 🤤

a reply to: frogs453

That was debunked. The extra money went to the government agencies. Stop spreading hoaxes. 🤣

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

Most likely his reasoning is to become president again, Fix his ego , but the most important reason is to pardon himself and stay out of jail.

Then he (Trump) will plot to stay in power until he dies.

Im sure others here will flame me for this, but its MY answer to your question.

Have at it !

FWIW Trump has been hit about as hard legally as any President EVER. A lot of people wonder how he can be so inept and piss off the Democratic masses so.

And found guilty.

All Dem manufactured crimes.

You already know that but you don't care.

a reply to: network dude
Trump's non-disclosure of his financial standing is, sort of, the point.

Other US Presidents have disclosed their fiscal and tax status, and divested themselves of all their business dealing, as part of ensuring no conflict of interest.

Trump didn't.

Trump misrepresented his wealth, which has now been revealed to be way short of what he claimed.

a reply to: frogs453

How much money has he and his family made so far (since being in office).

How does it compare to the Biden family Financials?

a reply to: chr0naut

Trump also disclosed his Financials, including his taxes.

Why are you lying?

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

Most likely his reasoning is to become president again, Fix his ego , but the most important reason is to pardon himself and stay out of jail.

Then he (Trump) will plot to stay in power until he dies.

Im sure others here will flame me for this, but its MY answer to your question.

Have at it !

FWIW Trump has been hit about as hard legally as any President EVER. A lot of people wonder how he can be so inept and piss off the Democratic masses so.

And found guilty.

All Dem manufactured crimes.

You already know that but you don't care.

What I know is — I never agree with you.

And it’s not gonna start now in this thread.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: network dude
Trump's non-disclosure of his financial standing is, sort of, the point.

Other US Presidents have disclosed their fiscal and tax status, and divested themselves of all their business dealing, as part of ensuring no conflict of interest.

Trump didn't.

Trump misrepresented his wealth, which has now been revealed to be way short of what he claimed.

Very few Presidents have disclosed their fiscal and tax status in the history of the United States.

It wasn't even a thing until after Watergate.

Trump did though.

Congresscritters are not bound to that at all, BTW...

And considering the Biden families 100 or so shell corporations to hide their wealth, does that apply to them too?

Should an investigation be launched?

Or is that... (D)ifferent?

How is your island doing financially, btw?

Still making the big bucks by providing tax incentives to US businesses?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

Most likely his reasoning is to become president again, Fix his ego , but the most important reason is to pardon himself and stay out of jail.

Then he (Trump) will plot to stay in power until he dies.

Im sure others here will flame me for this, but its MY answer to your question.

Have at it !

FWIW Trump has been hit about as hard legally as any President EVER. A lot of people wonder how he can be so inept and piss off the Democratic masses so.

And found guilty.

And it will be overturned.

You know that, right?

Right?

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

I think the answer to your question depends on how you want to define "the gain Trump got from being POTUS". That's not necessarily the same thing as the gain he got WHILE being POTUS.

Here's some data put together by the analysts at Visual Capitalists:



www.visualcapitalist.com...

If these guys are to be believed, BEING POTUS was a money losing proposition. He went from 4.5 Billion in 2016 before taking office to a paltry 2.1 Billion by the time he left. Poor guy. He almost had to start taking brown bag lunches to the office and Melania was looking at taking a side gig as a pole dancer to help make ends meet.

But his fortunes improved the minute he left office. Look at the big spike in 2024 going up to 5.7 Billion.

Being POTUS wasn't good for business, but RUNNING for POTUS after having been POTUS was fantastic for business.

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

I think the answer to your question depends on how you want to define "the gain Trump got from being POTUS". That's not necessarily the same thing as the gain he got WHILE being POTUS.

Here's some data put together by the analysts at Visual Capitalists:

www.visualcapitalist.com...

If these guys are to be believed, BEING POTUS was a money losing proposition. He went from 4.5 Billion in 2016 before taking office to a paltry 2.1 Billion by the time he left. Poor guy. He almost had to start taking brown bag lunches to the office and Melania was looking at taking a side gig as a pole dancer to help make ends meet.

But his fortunes improved the minute he left office. Look at the big spike in 2024 going up to 5.7 Billion.

Being POTUS wasn't good for business, but RUNNING for POTUS after having been POTUS was fantastic for business.

Thank you for your insightful leftist viewpoint.

The question in the OP was how did Trump improve his wealth while in office.

Since mysteriously, Democrats do that while in office a lot.

I won't bother rebutting what you cut and pasted since you will not reply to this thread again, given your posting history.

/facepalm

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: network dude
The rule is, don't ask the question, unless you know the answer. I'm Breaking that rule. I don't know. And the answer might prove Trump made bank on being pres. Most others went from poverty to riches, the elite just seem to fall into good things. But as Trump was well off before he ran, he must have done it for selfish reasons. Make himself even richer, or just pump that ego that has already been maxed out by being president already. Something drove him then, and is driving him now. Could it be the ice cream?

I think the answer to your question depends on how you want to define "the gain Trump got from being POTUS". That's not necessarily the same thing as the gain he got WHILE being POTUS.

Here's some data put together by the analysts at Visual Capitalists:

www.visualcapitalist.com...

If these guys are to be believed, BEING POTUS was a money losing proposition. He went from 4.5 Billion in 2016 before taking office to a paltry 2.1 Billion by the time he left. Poor guy. He almost had to start taking brown bag lunches to the office and Melania was looking at taking a side gig as a pole dancer to help make ends meet.

But his fortunes improved the minute he left office. Look at the big spike in 2024 going up to 5.7 Billion.

Being POTUS wasn't good for business, but RUNNING for POTUS after having been POTUS was fantastic for business.

I believe the majority of President Trump's new found wealth can be attributed to Truth Social. His shares are worth billions.

Trump awarded 36 million more Trump Media shares worth $1.6 billion after hitting price benchmarks

And if you recall, the only reason he started Truth Social was because the other social platform banned him. To me it seems to be less of an enrichment scheme and more of a lemonade scenario.

a reply to: network dude

Trumps never been a successful businessman. I mean the guy bankrupted a casino, how the hell do you bankrupt a casino? The whole business model behind a casino is that people walk in and willfully hand over there money.

Where he’s success really lies is with selling the Trump name as a brand and though becoming arguably the most controversial US president in history has become one of the most famous people on earth. Now he can even sell Trump collector cards at $100 a pop and make a killing.

Not bad considering if hadn’t run for president most people under 30 wouldn’t even know who he was and everyone else would just remember him as some washed up b-grade reality tv show star.

originally posted by: frogs453
Would have to dive into this subject, but one example, his hotels charged 5x the going rate for Secret Service rooms. Over 1.4 million was paid to his properties according to the ledgers.

In one ledger obtained by the Oversight Committee and published in the report, the Secret Service was charged $1,160 for a room at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. for agents protecting Eric Trump on March 8, 2017. The government rate for D.C. on that night was $242. On Nov. 8, 2017, another ledger shows that the Secret Service was charged $1,185 to lodge agents protecting Donald Trump Jr. The government rate was $201.

NBC

And as annee mentioned, over 30 patents were fast tracked after a dinner with Xi.

He also unlike every other President he never fully divested from his businesses, so really any money made benefited him and the family.

So you can show how his net worth exploded. Cool, got a link?

a reply to: network dude

Other instances of Trump’s business interests bleeding into his administration’s foreign policy abound. In 2019, Trump stunned the US foreign policy establishment by pulling US troops out of northeast Syria. The decision had no obvious benefits to the US and was a bombshell reversal to allied Kurds, but it was a victory for Turkey, where Trump had done business for years.

In China, Trump again shocked even his GOP allies when he pledged to help sanctioned Chinese company ZTE because, as he tweeted, there were “[t]oo many jobs in China lost,” despite warnings from US intelligence officials that the company’s products may be used by the Chinese government to spy on Americans. When Trump’s tax returns were released more than four years later, they showed a Chinese bank account he claimed to have closed in 2015 and, according to CREW’s analysis, more than $7.5 million in income from China.

In Argentina, Trump held off on enacting tariffs until after trademarks for his company had been approved.
www.citizensforethics.org...

More examples in the link.

I think he probably lost more than he gained by being POTUS.
When he switched to Republican and ran, the left, who had loved him,
suddenly hated him. His business' suffered a bunch. He didn't
take the paycheck that he earned as POTUS. And there are all the
legal fees he has had to pay .... most of them were lawfare against him
because of partisan hatred ... like that 'hushmoney' case in NYC.

a reply to: chr0naut

Divesting all Trump's holdings was virtually impossible. Trump's holdings compared to other Presidents is 1000x more and 10,000x more complicated. 💥 Plus all the various government investigations made it even more impossible. ☠️

a reply to: JadedGhost

Get a load from this professor......

Casinos that went bankrupt - the dark side of gambling industry

The casino industry has its fair share of businesses that tried but failed to make it big in the gambling world. In fact, more than two dozen casinos have filed for Chapter 11 protection since 2000.

Many of these casinos have been located on the Las Vegas Strip. This isn't completely surprising considering that the market became heavily saturated during the late 1990s and early 2000s. Many casinos opened because credit was easy to get. But after the real estate bubble burst in 2007 and the credit markets froze up, it became difficult to secure funding.

Some of these casinos filed for bankruptcy because of mounting debt loads. Others went broke due to the national and global economies. Regardless, dozens of casino resorts have shut their doors forever.

and there's actually many more they didn't list 😃