Who is the smallest minority

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originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: berbofthegreen

Forcing everyone to conform to some ridiculous ideal of what is supposed to be 'the norm' is a tyranny that takes away from the the true liberty of accepted individuality.

Right-wing 'conservatives' are anti-liberty.

You are of course aware of the utter hypocrisy of your post, right?

The right is FOR liberty of the individual and for individuals taking care of themselves and the consequences of their action.
The left is for nanny states with dependant underlings who can't even open a jar of pickles without asking their overlords.
Communism, it's in the name. It's not called individualism.

It's the usual case of the far left ideology that everyone has to be acceptant of leftist ideas, but you lot can still hate/ ban/ cancel/ slander anyone who just as deeply has differing opinions?

Yeah, you didn't think this through properly..

From your avatar, I would assume that you aren't an outspoken Christian, nor a male. So, you aren't really 'their type of people'.

In the USA, the right-wing vociferously oppose policies of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI). The right wing is anti-liberty, authoritarian, and pro-conformance.

The views of the far-right are the clearest indicator of the general leaning of more moderate right-wing views: Far-right politics.

The Encyclopedia of Politics: The Left and the Right states that far-right politics include "persons or groups who hold extreme nationalist, xenophobic, homophobic, racist, religious fundamentalist, or other reactionary views."

a reply to: chr0naut

The sources and references in that wiki are ALL Left Wing biased and prejudiced. 😀

Some are even locked and can't be read in full. 😬

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: berbofthegreen

Forcing everyone to conform to some ridiculous ideal of what is supposed to be 'the norm' is a tyranny that takes away from the the true liberty of accepted individuality.

Right-wing 'conservatives' are anti-liberty.

Looks like when you saw "Rush Limbaugh" in the OP, you ticked into a wild frenzy of horrible prejudice and mental breakdown. 🤣🤣

Nope.

It is yet another unoriginal right-wing opinion posted under the forum topic of "US Political madness".

You are so 'not woke', you are unconscious (of all outside of your own head).

originally posted by: berbofthegreen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: berbofthegreen

Forcing everyone to conform to some ridiculous ideal of what is supposed to be 'the norm' is a tyranny that takes away from the the true liberty of accepted individuality.

Right-wing 'conservatives' are anti-liberty.

It wasn’t that long ago the “fringe people” could be arrested for just being who they are.

They’ve always been, but lived in the shadows because they had to. Forced there by polite society.

Their “Free to Be” is hard earned.

Let them keep on fighting for their equality.

So I think then what you are looking forward to is what most people call "revenge". To be honest with you, the left is jailing people for their political views all over the "west". Since two wrongs do not make a right, the third wrong will.

Wait, what?

Do you believe that Trump did not prosecute and persecute those with opposing political ideologies under his administration?

The United States of Incarceration

How else do you achieve a country with the highest incarceration numbers and 2nd highest incarceration rate in the world, when the crime statistics show only an average crime rate compared with other countries? A fair number of those incarcerated must not actually be incarcerated for crimes if the crime rate isn't that high.

The United States Has Many Political Prisoners. Here’s a List.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut

The sources and references in that wiki are ALL Left Wing biased and prejudiced. 😀

Some are even locked and can't be read in full. 😬

Have you thought that the reason for the absence of support for far-right-wing politics in Wikipedia is that there are very few cogent and rational far-right-wing apologists? After all, Wikipedia articles are user contributed and moderated.

Both of these explanations make sense if pro-far-right-wing views are actually quite unpopular in comparison to anti-far-right-wing views.

Also, "The Encyclopedia of Politics: The Left and the Right" is a two volume set of books, not a website.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: berbofthegreen

Forcing everyone to conform to some ridiculous ideal of what is supposed to be 'the norm' is a tyranny that takes away from the the true liberty of accepted individuality.

Right-wing 'conservatives' are anti-liberty.

Why don't you back it with facts for once? Show us something that loses true liberty for you in NZ that I have now here?

New Zealand had three outbreaks of COVID-19 that each time was eliminated from the general populace through lockdowns, sanitization, masking and quarantine. As soon as there were no more new cases among the general population, the restrictions were lifted each time.

Then, as many people saw social media posts suggesting that vaccine mandates (that never existed for the general public in New Zealand), there were mass protests that rolled through the country culminating in the largest one in Wellington, outside our parliament.

At the time immediately before these protests, there was another outbreak, but the protestors, unmasked, unvaccinated, unsanitized, and ignoring all social distancing, spread the disease through the country in massive numbers. They were a series of super-spreader events such that it was no longer possible to isolate the infected anymore.

The government tried to lockdown again, but it soon became clear that the protests had ruined any chance of curtailing the spread by those methods which had worked previously. And so after unnecessarily long attempts to lock-down and overcome COVID-19 once again, the government gave up and changed their strategy to living with the disease.

Those extra unnecessary lock downs were what amounted to an unnecessary loss of liberty to myself and other NZers, and was also, somewhat comically from an alleged loss of a liberty that we didn't actually lose.

Not to mention the numbers of NZers that have died from COVID-19 subsequent to the protests (more than 6,000).

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: berbofthegreen

Forcing everyone to conform to some ridiculous ideal of what is supposed to be 'the norm' is a tyranny that takes away from the the true liberty of accepted individuality.

Right-wing 'conservatives' are anti-liberty.

Why don't you back it with facts for once? Show us something that loses true liberty for you in NZ that I have now here?

New Zealand had three outbreaks of COVID-19 that each time was eliminated from the general populace through lockdowns, sanitization, masking and quarantine. As soon as there were no more new cases among the general population, the restrictions were lifted each time.

Logic in practice is an amazing thing.

Spock: “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

My brother — devout Trump supporter — died of Covid.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: berbofthegreen

Forcing everyone to conform to some ridiculous ideal of what is supposed to be 'the norm' is a tyranny that takes away from the the true liberty of accepted individuality.

Right-wing 'conservatives' are anti-liberty.

Why don't you back it with facts for once? Show us something that loses true liberty for you in NZ that I have now here?

New Zealand had three outbreaks of COVID-19 that each time was eliminated from the general populace through lockdowns, sanitization, masking and quarantine. As soon as there were no more new cases among the general population, the restrictions were lifted each time.

Logic in practice is an amazing thing.

Spock: “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

My brother — devout Trump supporter — died of Covid.

I am really sorry to hear that.

How many have died for rights that weren't, and freedoms that no-one ultimately has either lost, nor gained. Seems like, in the long view, people's priorities were a little unbalanced.

I'd live with a little hardship rather than loose someone.

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
The smallest minority on earth is the individual.

In the context of discrimination, minority means a group of people that share a common trait, like race, gender/sexual orientation, culture or religion.

The whole point is that people being discriminated against happens because they are part of a group, while disregarding their positive traits as an individual.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
The smallest minority on earth is the individual.

The whole point is that people being discriminated against happens because they are part of a group, while disregarding their positive traits as an individual.

No it isn’t.

Individuals that are different from “norm” are discriminated against because they are different than perceived “norm”.

“Tribes” are for protection.

a reply to: Annee
I think it went over your head.

If a totally normal person, maybe even better suited for a job is turned away because of skin color, it would be because of the group they are a part of.

So, while you can argue the individual is the smallest minority, but when someone is discriminated against because of something like that it is because of their group.

a reply to: MetalThunder

Individual rights... No way media is just state sanctioned propaganda... Wow shocker... Surely fox is better than that, right? Nope...
Just because you belived the médias lies when you where in agreement, still makes them state sanctioned propaganda. They operate exactly the same as 20 years ago, it's just you don't identify with the agenda being pushed...

But hey i get it, those that followed the script so well for so long. Well adapted sheep sacrificing themselfs and their kids on a medias notice. Sure those are having truble now that it starts shifting... Just because you can't adapt to the shift you're feelz are of no importance now either. It is and always has been the dictatorship of the masses.
just accept that your agenda is not relevant anymore. The good thing though, is that we're still heading to the same cliff. Not much has changed really.

Or try not giving a #... whining about change is the worst of your option... It's inevitable and it's not a buffet...

If anything it's outdated religious morals and dogmas that are being eroded which was about time a 2000 year retarded mentality was loosing it's grip on people...
I guess this is in some way a case of Stockholm syndrome, where people enjoyed the mental and moral cage they lived in and are now wehemently refusing to join the free world... They won't convince anyone about the greatness of their own cages. At some point they'll just become museum attractions... ,,

Stop bringing God into everything. Everything he said was great and could apply to all of us as individuals. But then he had to go and make it political by bringing religion into the mix and # on his own point.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Annee
I think it went over your head.

If a totally normal person, maybe even better suited for a job is turned away because of skin color, it would be because of the group they are a part of.

So, while you can argue the individual is the smallest minority, but when someone is discriminated against because of something like that it is because of their group.

Who groups them?

Who groups them for discrimination?

They don’t group themselves for that reason. They group themselves for camaraderie and protection.

Is a minority determined by an external force?

a reply to: Annee

Being born a certain color, homosexual or into a certain culture. Which is something nobody has any control over.

Even within their "tribe" they are individuals but the discrimination is applied to all of them. That was my point, even if a person fits the norm but happen to be of a different race, they will be lumped in with everyone of that race by anyone who is a bigot against that race.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Annee

Being born a certain color, homosexual or into a certain culture. Which is something nobody has any control over.

Even within their "tribe" they are individuals but the discrimination is applied to all of them. That was my point, even if a person fits the norm but happen to be of a different race, they will be lumped in with everyone of that race by anyone who is a bigot against that race.

So, a minority is determined by discrimination?

originally posted by: Annee
So, a minority is determined by discrimination?

No, a minority is determined by a shared trait of a group.

If someone hates people X because of the trait they share, then they hate them all, even if they would probably get along with some of them if they didn't have that trait.