If Harris wasn't in charge of the border, who was?

a reply to: DAVID64

They don't have to call them deep fakes, they'll just ignore them and media will keep saying she wasn't in charge of the border.

a reply to: network dude

To be fair, the first 3 years of the Biden administration always said the border was secure, so why did anyone need to take care of it?

a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

" She's unburdened by what has been."

Where is the Burden of Proof for that ? The Past is Always Documented but Often Conveniently Forgotten by Some or the One . Geez , Now I have a Headache after Writing that........(

The Cartels by proxy of the DHS.

You’re welcome.

She was in charge, and she knows it. Videos
don't lie. Watch and you will see her nervous
laughter when confronted.



See articles on her mental state,
suggests she has a disorder of some kind.
www.msn.com...

a reply to: burntheships

It is the Folly of Man to Imagine he can by his Own Supposed Willpower Change the Past in his Fellow Man's Eyes . There will Always be Some who will Never Forget it !

originally posted by: burntheships
She was in charge, and she knows it. Video's
don't lie. Watch and you will see her nervous
laughter when confronted.

See articles on her mental state,
suggests she has a disorder of some kind.

No doubt she has a disorder, it's called Liberalism.

It's one of the worst epidemics this country has ever faced.

a reply to: RazorV66

Well, this is something I just came upon,
she may have two disorders then.

One being liberal woke disease,
and the other is this logorrhoea.

Is Kamala Harris' mental health shaky?

Kamala Harris 's rambling 'word salad' speeches may be a symptom of a little-known but common psychological condition called logorrhoea — also known as verbal diarrhoea. The US Vice President, who was endorsed by Joe Biden after he bowed out of the presidential race on Sunday, is known for her jumbled, sometimes incoherent speaking style.

www.msn.com...

Needs a thread of its own.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: RazorV66

Well, this is something I just came upon,
she may have two disorders then.

One being liberal woke disease,
and the other is this logorrhoea.

Is Kamala Harris' mental health shaky?

Kamala Harris 's rambling 'word salad' speeches may be a symptom of a little-known but common psychological condition called logorrhoea — also known as verbal diarrhoea. The US Vice President, who was endorsed by Joe Biden after he bowed out of the presidential race on Sunday, is known for her jumbled, sometimes incoherent speaking style.

www.msn.com...

Needs a thread of its own.

That's hilarious.

originally posted by: network dude
Nobody seems to be asking the basic question. If Harris wasn't in charge of the border, somebody should have been. If not, it might have devolved into chaos. Well, it did, but Harris and Biden and Mayorkus have been saying there was no problem and the border was totally under control. But the facts don't line up with that.

So what did Harris do for 4 years? And what did she discover with the "root causes" of whatever it was they claim she was doing?

Harris proudly claims she was the last person in the room during most of Joe's decisions. Unless that changes as well. Just glad Joe is able to run circles around his staff.

To answer your question:

The Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency with their almost 60,000 employees was in charge of the border. The same as under Trump, under Obama before that, and George Bush before that. The CBP reports to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which reports to the POTUS. For the last 3 1/2 years or so that would be Joe Biden. For the 4 years before that, it was Donald Trump. The VPOTUS--whoever that happens to be at any given time--has no executive decision making authority over DHS or the CBP, so they shouldn't get credit for either successes or failures for agencies over which they have no control.

BTW, the CBP under Biden removed, returned, and expelled more than twice as many unauthorized migrants as Trump did:

www.migrationpolicy.org...

originally posted by: RazorV66

That's hilarious.

Isn't it?

I mean, after Biden now they get Kamala who
has some kind of speaking disorder.

Why can't they pick a candidate that is semi
normal, that can speak without gaffes and
nonsensical gibberish.

The ones in charge are The NWO-Democrat Alliance with Mayorkas running point 😀

Mayorkas was/(is?) on The Board of a major profit NGO HIAS company 💲

HIAS Congratulates Board Member Alejandro Mayorkas on DHS Nomination
Nov 23, 2020

a reply to: RazorV66

I think She Suffers from Accute Insecurity according to the Symptons ...



Childhood Experiences and Parenting Styles

Past Trauma or Rejection

Social Pressure and Comparison

Relationship Patterns

Physical or Emotional Neglect

Chronic Illness or Physical Limitations

An Insecure Person Has a Constant Need for Reassurance

Overly Sensitive to Criticism

Excessive Jealousy May Appear in an Insecure Person

Low Self-Esteem May Mean Insecurity

Fear of Abandonment May Reveal Insecurity

Difficulty Trusting Others May Reveal an Insecure Person

Overcompensation

Reluctance to Share Feelings

a reply to: network dude

I posted a couple links to what she did on another thread about this.

What she did was determine the root cause of illegal immigrants is poverty.

Her solution was getting American companies to build factories and outsource jobs to these countries.

The Mexican president was unhappy, well, they were happy but not because they want a bunch of money from the US government, not just more outsourced jobs.

Here's the link and quotes I posted on the other comment.

www.nbcnews.com...

A White House official defended Harris’ record and said her work is ongoing. “Vice President Harris continues to lead the effort to address the root causes of migration from Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador, including by generating more than $5.2 billion in investments into the region to give people economic opportunity at home. These investments are creating jobs and have connected more than 4.5 million people to the internet and brought more than 2.5 million people into the formal financial system.”

......

Since 2021, however, the Root Causes Strategy has made no new commitments, despite Mexican pleas for more direct investment from the U.S., not just from U.S. companies.

Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said in May 2022 that the private investment strategy is too slow.

“We are convincing the government of the United States to invest with readiness,” he said at a news conference. “They have a very special system — they think that it’s enough to promote private investments. That if plants, factories are installed in Central America, then employment will be generated. … That is good, but that takes time."

Also I just noticed it says they haven't done anything since 2021 in this article. So basically she got some companies to outsource more jobs to foreign countries in 2021 and I guess nothing beyond that.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

" She's unburdened by what has been."

Where is the Burden of Proof for that ? The Past is Always Documented but Often Conveniently Forgotten by Some or the One . Geez , Now I have a Headache after Writing that........(

Ya just....say it.

And voila, it's true!

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: network dude
Nobody seems to be asking the basic question. If Harris wasn't in charge of the border, somebody should have been. If not, it might have devolved into chaos. Well, it did, but Harris and Biden and Mayorkus have been saying there was no problem and the border was totally under control. But the facts don't line up with that.

So what did Harris do for 4 years? And what did she discover with the "root causes" of whatever it was they claim she was doing?

Harris proudly claims she was the last person in the room during most of Joe's decisions. Unless that changes as well. Just glad Joe is able to run circles around his staff.

To answer your question:

The Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency with their almost 60,000 employees was in charge of the border. The same as under Trump, under Obama before that, and George Bush before that. The CBP reports to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which reports to the POTUS. For the last 3 1/2 years or so that would be Joe Biden. For the 4 years before that, it was Donald Trump. The VPOTUS--whoever that happens to be at any given time--has no executive decision making authority over DHS or the CBP, so they shouldn't get credit for either successes or failures for agencies over which they have no control.

BTW, the CBP under Biden removed, returned, and expelled more than twice as many unauthorized migrants as Trump did:

www.migrationpolicy.org...

gaslight me harder daddy.

They deported more because too many came in. Check that number, but you won't. Because it shatters your fake narrative. But the key things is, .....everybody knows.

originally posted by: network dude
Nobody seems to be asking the basic question. If Harris wasn't in charge of the border, somebody should have been. If not, it might have devolved into chaos. Well, it did, but Harris and Biden and Mayorkus have been saying there was no problem and the border was totally under control. But the facts don't line up with that.

So what did Harris do for 4 years? And what did she discover with the "root causes" of whatever it was they claim she was doing?

Harris proudly claims she was the last person in the room during most of Joe's decisions. Unless that changes as well. Just glad Joe is able to run circles around his staff.

The very question is invalid, because she *was* in charge of the border situation... they made a whole deal about appointing her, and ATS made a whole deal about how she simply didn't do her job.
I specifically remember a thread about how some number of months after her appointment she hadn't even visited said border yet.

I don't understand the question that is the basis of this thread. there is no "if she wasn't", that was her assigned job. there was never any question about it.

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: network dude
Nobody seems to be asking the basic question. If Harris wasn't in charge of the border, somebody should have been. If not, it might have devolved into chaos. Well, it did, but Harris and Biden and Mayorkus have been saying there was no problem and the border was totally under control. But the facts don't line up with that.

So what did Harris do for 4 years? And what did she discover with the "root causes" of whatever it was they claim she was doing?

Harris proudly claims she was the last person in the room during most of Joe's decisions. Unless that changes as well. Just glad Joe is able to run circles around his staff.

To answer your question:

The Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency with their almost 60,000 employees was in charge of the border. The same as under Trump, under Obama before that, and George Bush before that. The CBP reports to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which reports to the POTUS. For the last 3 1/2 years or so that would be Joe Biden. For the 4 years before that, it was Donald Trump. The VPOTUS--whoever that happens to be at any given time--has no executive decision making authority over DHS or the CBP, so they shouldn't get credit for either successes or failures for agencies over which they have no control.

BTW, the CBP under Biden removed, returned, and expelled more than twice as many unauthorized migrants as Trump did:

www.migrationpolicy.org...

Your source is a extreme left liberal propaganda machine/think tank. You really think they’re going to critique immigration numbers honestly.

Here’s what wiki said about them

The Migration Policy Institute is supportive of liberal immigration policies.

Kathleen Newland co-founder…

She is also the director of the Migration, Migrants, and Development Program there and also leads the refugee protection work at MPI.

The other co-founder

Demetrios G. Papademetriou (February 18, 1946 – January 26, 2022) was an American immigration scholar and advisor. He cofounded the Migration Policy Institute in 2001

These people are activists for immigration, nothing more.


Their narrative is BS. Here are the apprehensions by years. Biden’s deportation numbers should be 4-5 times the numbers you posted. Biden let a history breaking number of illegals into the country. All you’re doing is gaslighting, try again.

www.statista.com...

a reply to: KrustyKrab

Well researched and well done.

But you realize that maths are hard for the left...

Hell, they don't even know what bathroom to use.



ETA... so the foundation quoted in Boomer's post is the left's version of the Heritage Foundation.

Shouldn't we point out that...

Nevermind.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
El Chapo

El Mayo

Chapo was already in jail when Biden took over.