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The OKC Bombing Conspiracy

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posted on Apr, 17 2005 @ 11:57 PM
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Conspiracy theories about OKC Bombing:

* It is alleged that several reports of Middle Eastern men near the bombing scene went uninvestigated in favor of focusing on Timothy McVeigh. Manhunts were issued to find the Middle Easterners, but were quickly cancelled.
* Allegations that Al Qaida, the Palestinians or Iraqi intelligence may have been involved with the bombers have been risen based on Terry Nichols's trips to the Philippines.
* McVeigh was linked to various Neo-Nazi groups and may have been aided by one of the many groups of White Supremacists.
* As alleged in Alex Jones' films, a conspiracy theory is that the government was involved in the bombing, possibly to pass new laws.
* Timothy McVeigh probably chose April 19 because it was the day the American Revolution began. Also some analysts link his decision of April 19 because Adolf Hitler's 106th birthday anniversary. However, many believed McViegh chose April 19 as revenge for the Waco attacks.


Some Quotes:
"Assistant Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, said by some to be the architect of America's war on Iraq, reportedly suspects that Saddam Hussein played a significant role in the three worst terrorist attacks ever on the U.S. - the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing."
June 1, 2003, Vanity Fair


Paul Wolfowitz is soon to be President of the World Bank and will likely take out terrorist support via monetary.



Speculation by Enigmatic_Messiah:
Did the FBI and government officials cover this up because we were not able to handle it appropriatly at the time? Remember it happened during the Clinton administration which had cut back on military during this time.


--Please, No partisan bickering!



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 03:34 AM
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Middle East, John Doe #2, etc: CIA disinformation

May 2001: Hollywood and the Department of Justice complete the script of Reichstag Fire I: the movie Pearl Harbor and the execution of Timothy McVeigh. The same innocent used to start the circle of terror is also used to complete it.
The fact that about everyone swallowed the story was the sign that 9/11 was a safe operation.
google search

ed. shorten link


[edit on 18-4-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 04:42 PM
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There were also many bomb experts (?) who publicly stated the way that McVeigh assembled the bomb was improper and would have killed himself in the process. Blame it all on the white man to take attention off the true corraborators who possible may have been the ones to declare war on the US in '97, bomb several embassies in '98, given a new porthole design for the USS Cole in '00, and gave NY a facelift in '01. And I almost forgot to mention TWA 800 in '96.

Let's look at a time line of events related to a faction of Middle-Eastern men and possible events:

93 - WTC bombing
95 - ?OKC bombing?
96 - ?TWA 800?
97 - Declare war on US publicly
98 - Embassy bombings
00 - USS Cole
01 - WTC again

So, from about 93 to 98 it would seem as if this group was rather inactive, which may have put any public ambition of going after these fellows all out on hold. So by disstorting and not relinqueshing the truth, the government made people fell self-assured of a peacefulable life from foreign terrorist, this way money could be diverted elsewhere: ie possible SA drug cartels, corupt politician, disatrous public work projects, more beuracracy, interns, and more drugs.
By showing the public that the men responsible for OKC came from within, it momentarily put on hold any new creation of a task force to seek out across oceans after the men, which would mean bribing not our politicians but (more) other politicians. It was easier to keep the problem here in the US. Ruby Ridge and Waco also made it a hell of a lot easier to believe that this was the truth.



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 05:49 PM
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Heard this Lady speak on talk radio, www.jaynadavis.com...

We all need to get this book that she wrote.

Roper



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 05:51 PM
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There where at least 2 other bombs found in the building that did not go off< local news reported this on the day it happend. An awesome DVD I could recommend is "Painful Questions" .That DVD is about 911 but includes these news reports on the Oklahoma bombing and some other footage on this topic. Tim MV might have let off the fertizer bomb in the truck but this was not the only one on the site.



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 07:17 PM
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Terry Nichols Ex-Wife gave letters to that lady on CNN, I forget her name, it said, "Pray to God that the truth is revealed and that the fabrications will be exposed." it was something along those lines. Anyways it was an interview with her,,,,.................too bad the new Pope news reports will over shadow this interview.



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 07:20 PM
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Its crazy, I can still remember where I was. I was living in Vian, Oklahoma and was 9 yrs old and went home sick from school, fell asleep and when I woke up it was all over the TV. Since that day I've been a news/politics/current events in general junkie.
I can still remember the name of the teacher's class that I was in when 9/11 happened and I forget almost everybody's name.



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 07:27 PM
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Here is a great review of the work Jayne did:

www.laweekly.com...



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 07:41 PM
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His ex-wife alluded to the idea that Terry Nichols had been threatened by McVeigh, concerning his son. Personally, I think McVeigh was an associate of many fringe groups such as the KKK, Islamic Militants, etcetera. I am afraid it looks more and more like a joint project with various Aryan supremacists, the KKK, and possibly Islamic militants. The latter is more ambiguous & contracdictive of the other two options.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 20 2005 @ 08:35 PM
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You should all read "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis. I know she was already mentioned in this thread, but I just want to reiterate that she probably knows the most about the various consipracies related to the Oklahoma City Bombing.

The last I actually heard from her was when she was looking into the connections between beheading victim Nick Berg and terrorist Zacharias Moussai. Apparantly they met in Oklahoma and Moussai actually used Berg's laptop computer to send some e-mails. When the FBI interviewed Berg after 9/11, he claimed that Moussai was just a stranger on a bus that asked to use his laptop. Sounds kind of far-fetched to me and I believe there is a lot more to this story that hasn't been discovered or reported yet. Hopefully Jayna Davis digs something good up.



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 11:34 PM
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VERY Farfetched.
Why let a strange man on a BUS use your laptop..

why would ALQAEDA use a common AMERICAN citizen to communicae wth his terroist buddies.

Nick definately had something fishy, thus why his execution was also Fishy



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 12:29 AM
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Well it certainly sounds like she did a great job of investigating but then is the FBI and our government not wanting the truth to come out due to their open and shut case or thier own involvement in it? Crazy question but with the current situation in Iraq it would seem that our government would jump on anything that proves Saddam Hussein involvement in it so why aren't they doing just that?

Someone else here at ATS started a thread about this and supplied this link, I wish I could find the thread but I can't, anyway I can't take credit for finding this someone else here originally supplied. If anyone can find the original thread please post it. Here is the link, add it to the one above and it really makes one think, is it really as simple as two crazy guys wanting revenge? www.americanfreepress.net...

The terror loosed in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, was created by criminals and murderers directed by and paid for by the federal government. This is the only conclusion that can be reached by a calm analysis of the facts.*

The case of Sgt. Terry Yeakey is only one of a myriad of dramatic stories that could be told—stories just waiting for Hollywood, but out of bounds for public consumption.

It has been nearly 10 years since Oklahoma City’s Murrah building was blown apart one quiet April morning. Contrary to news reports, the persons found guilty and sentenced for the Murrah bombing atrocity could not have been solely responsible. An Oklahoma City police sergeant became aware of this before anyone else, apparently during the first hour of rescue. He paid for that discovery with his life.



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 01:03 AM
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Ok people you want to know where Mcveigh got his idea and why he blew upthe federal building. Read the turner diaries, (a great book by the way even though if it was up to some people it would be permanantly banned). Anyway I highly doubt the were other terrorists actually on site. However, I could believe he got some munitions expertise from them and you have to remember Mcveigh had ties to all kinds of Pro-white groups. The muslims and pro-white groups do have a common enemy in the jew. It is probably but after reading the turner diaries how mcveigh acquired the explosives isn't really a big mystery. BTW if you would like to get a copy, Gun shows sell them all the time and it is still published.

[edit on 27-4-2005 by Trustnone]



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 02:23 AM
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[ why allow a stranger to use his laptop ] ? / why would al-quida use a common american to communicate...[ USE is the operative word here ]

simple , not so much allowing him....try from the other side of the cow. mussoui introduced a red herring into the mix, adding confusion to who did what...I smell CIA all over this. BERG WAS USED !

and early morning OK-CITY...there were reports of the FBI/ATF , doing a search around the bldg. WTF ? [ SEARCH ? my money is on CIA in ATF GEAR , planting micro-bombs on the bldg ]

also after bombing....ATF were spotted in their vehicles by reporters who questioned why they were there . ANSWER ,they got a call on their cell saying not to go to work while driving to work !

early reports had the FBI looking for 2 middle eastern men....never to be reported again. [ odd , eh ? ] middle eastern men were all over this [ incident ], uncovered by jayna davis, and quashed by the FBI and the media.

GEN BEN PARTIN , an expert in demolitions, flew out of his chair when he heard that an ANFO bomb was reported to do the damage, PARTIN swears there is no "F" ing way, that an ANFO [ Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil ] bomb can take out the front of a steel reinforced concrete bldg THAT FAR FROM THE BUILDING ![ the truck was parked on the street 20-30 feet away ] the pressure from the blast falls off immensely from the air/distance involved .
PARTIN even sent off letters to wash dc...[ for all the bloody good it would do....none ]

this was a major contrivance by forces we barely understand...

I'm afraid we are witnessing, the beginning of the end [ of the USA, as we know it ] and perhaps more...

the "john doe" was later identified by jayna davis, as HUSSEIN AL-HUSSEINI . the weenie actually sued her ! [ you will note, THAT did NOT get a whole lot of press ][ it serves to keep the fools in darkness for as long as possible ]

jayna davis has fabulous info, is a loyal american looking to expose those involved . but too much time has passed, and most people, are DONE with the whole mess and their eyes glaze over upon hearing any suspicious info about it. [ thanks to great manipulation of the press by the CIA ]

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posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 02:52 AM
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Frosty...Is your sig from catch 22? ...if so, nice, very nice



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 11:03 AM
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goose,

thx for that link to YEAKEY, I hadn't heaRd about him.

I guess I'll have to add that to my pile on OK-CITY

kinda reminds me of some of BUBBAS' body count , like the ACCIDENTAL DEATHS of the 2 arkansas boys on the railroad tracks...




WILL WE EVER FIGGER IT OUT B 4 IT'S TOO LATE ?



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 11:06 AM
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If you want to know the real story on the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, tune in on the internet. Dave Schippers will be on the radio at 1:00 central time. Go to www.rightalk.com... for live streaming. The show lasts 1 hr. and he is on with Jayna Davis, author of "The Third Terrorist."

Rock, rock on!



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 12:50 PM
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I always thought that John Doe #2 looked alot like Jose Padilla, the 'gang member' arrested in Detriot with connections to terrorism. The Berg-Moussai connection is also a good one.



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by toasted
goose,

thx for that link to YEAKEY, I hadn't heaRd about him.

I guess I'll have to add that to my pile on OK-CITY

kinda reminds me of some of BUBBAS' body count , like the ACCIDENTAL DEATHS of the 2 arkansas boys on the railroad tracks...




WILL WE EVER FIGGER IT OUT B 4 IT'S TOO LATE ?



Your welcome, I actually remember Yeakey from that photo. He looked like he belonged on a movie set he was exactly what a cop should look like in my mind.
Can you believe over 30 some of the major witnesses have met with mysterious deaths? Here is a link you might not have and it is well worth looking at okcbombing.org... Here is another link where one of the main people who was concerned about bombs being in the building was helping in the rescue, many people saw him there alive and well, his body turned up later supposedly he was killed in the bombing, now this just gets stranger and stranger freerepublic.com...
As for the Arkansas teens murdered on the railroad tracks, (you know very few people know about that), isn't it believed they accidentally discovered the drugs being brought in by the CIA and were then murdered? If you or anyone else have a link to this please post it? TIA



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 09:17 PM
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Im curently reading THE MILITIA MOVEMENT IN AMERICA before & after OKC by Tricia Andryszewski. 1997 Millbrook Press

Very informative stuff



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