Trump, Revelation, and Fatima

originally posted by: AlroyFarms
So in some of my conversations in light of the Trump assassination attempt, one thing I heard was that July 13th is the 107th anniversary of the Fatima visions.

we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'.

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I have seen it suggested that perhaps Trump is the Antichrist due to the verse in Revelation 13:3

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

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I wouldn't say Trump was mortally or fatally wounded in that he would heal in a miraculous way. He seemed cut or grazed, but I'm not sure the extent of the damage other than to say he probably couldn't fist pump the American Flag if he had had a mortal head wound. Sorry, that one is out for me.

So what about the secrets of Fatima? Well. Yeah the anniversary part is correct. But in my attempt to research I found quickly that I am outside my wheelhouse. I don't understand a lot of what I'm reading. I'm not a church-goer or a Catholic. And I'm not really understanding the apparition and what it means.

Anyone want to take a crack at this? Is there any meat here to digest? It's been said many times here that TPTB love their symbolism and their synchronous dates. Any interesting numerology going on?

I am intrigued, but sorry to say I don't really know how to interpret or research Bible or Catholicism.

One must be careful not to take Revelation out of context.
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13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

And by the way, the Fátima Prophecy involved the rise of communism in Russia, where the Christian saints were martyred and the churches destroyed or infiltrated. Expressly, the request was for the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and for repentance( and the “conversion of poor sinners”)

a reply to: Shoshanna

Porphyry was probably right that these predictions attributed to Daniel were rehashed and published posthumously after they had long been fulfilled. Such were also the prophecies attributed to Mother Shipton, Mitar Tarabich, Baba Vanga, etc. However, Mother Shipton is worth researching:

Und gelbe Männer große Macht gewinnen
Vom mächtigen Bär, mit dem sie zusammen.
Diese mächtigen Tyrannen werden scheitern,
Scheitern zu spalten die Welt entzwei.
Doch von ihrer ausgeheckten Brut
Kommt ein Fieber — lassen viele tot.

Also, Spielbahn: Mit solchen Taten wird man einen Mächtigen erscheinen sehen, der nicht König ist, aber ein Kaiser wird genannt... Dann er sterben wird als geschlagener Mann, der keinen Freund mehr hat, und ist verbannt und verlassen im weiten Meer. (Daniel 11:45)

Право это одно только не человеческого происхождения и потому заслуживает названия Божественного. (Pavel Florensky)

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Throughout history, there were kings who received a divine right to rule, but a territorial limit was imposed on them; if they go beyond it, they lose their empire.

Alexander (respected it too late), Xerxes (goaded by a false dream), Hannibal (warned by an augurer).

Duniushka of Siberia: "In those centuries to come, there will no longer be any tsars or korols."

German seeress Regina: "King and emperor will disappear, and another will lash the whip. An iron crown is for thee, German people, and it will press and weight heavily upon thee for many years to come."

This is what a contemporary Austrian seer claims to have overheard in his vision of an European emperor:

"After he was crowned he turned around, walking away from the pope and he started to speak to the people. I can't remember the whole speech - he was quite eloquent though. He said something along the lines that the time of kings and emperors is over, that it is time for a new kind of rule, the basic democracy I have already told you about. I remember people looking at him being confused by his words."
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originally posted by: Shoshanna
who does trump want to conquer?

Most likely Iran. Who knows why. Or he provokes China, this seems logical: "Country's frequently flex muscles when a new administration comes in."
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Here are some interesting dream scenarios I've collected over the years:

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WanderingMrM offers a hypothetical scenario: www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: theshadowknows
This isn't going to be a popular opinion here, so I'll let scripture speak instead.

“I could hear his boastful speech…”
Daniel 7:8, Revelation 13:5

“…had a mouth like that of a lion.”
Revelation 13:2, Daniel. 7:4

“…and he was bent on conquering.”
Revelation 6:2

“… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.”
Daniel 11:21

“He had a mouth that spoke great things, and that seemed greater than its companions…”
Daniel 7:20

“After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.”
Daniel 11:23

“He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.”
Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10

“He will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will sell them land at a price.”
Daniel 11:39b

“He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts.”
Daniel 11:37-38

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Ever hear of this one, “By their fruits ye shall know them?”
Matthew 7:26-20 KJV
Really something how people twist scripture … TDS is rampant in the land.

a reply to: AlroyFarms

Do some proper research! The three (actually four) shepherds were interviewed during the months the apparitions were happening, infact the three main shepherds were arrested in the August. Resulting in the August apparition being later than the 13th. The interviews were recorded and are currently kept in the archives at Fatima. At no time was there any mention of secrets. Jacinta drew a picture of the vision which looks like a little girl describing her in white and gold. No mention of it being the Virgin Mary. Jacinta was taken to a convent in Spain and held incommunicado by the jesuits, she could only meet her mother if an escort was present. Her memoirs were published 20 years later. And surprise surprise some secrets appear. In reality the Catholic Church couldn’t explain the scenario so hijacked it as a religious event. It’s interesting that the bishop who interviewed the shepherds and witnessed the finale of the miracle of the sun stated it was the work of the devil.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: AlroyFarms
I have seen it suggested that perhaps Trump is the Antichrist due to the verse in Revelation 13:3

Poppycock.

The Antichrist has to be young and well liked around the world and followed by nearly everyone. Trump has about half the country voting for him and the other half hating him. And a good deal of people overseas don't like him because he puts America first.

Absolutely not the antichrist.

Nah dudette, most of the people who aren’t American love the bloke. Revel in the way he shows the pale sockly underbelly of the USA and talks to ordinary people like they are people.

Not avoiding a fan because she is too black for him like some current potus. 🤗

a reply to: AlroyFarms

Sorry for being late, but I would like to clear a slight detail I didn't see mentioned: July 13th was the anniversary of the third apparition, the one in which the three secrets were shown to Lúcia (I'm not sure if Jacinta also saw them).

The first was on May 13th and the last on October 13th.

a reply to: FlyersFan

He's not the Antichrist. He's a very naughty boy...

a reply to: nugget1

Good point. The democrat policy is anti christ. The leadership supports the right to kill the innocent. Leadership supports individuals have rights to their bodies not that our bodies belong to some divine power. That is a Christian belief.
Basically it is Anti Christ in its policy. It miraculously survived a head wound through the fumbling Biden debate recovering quickly from the mortal head wound in days. Millions of people seem to be worshiping the new leadership as if the opponent is the antichrist because he is the opposition. This thread is suggesting the idea like planting a seed in the minds of worshippers although certainly not the first to suggest.

Supporters of the opposition are demonized in the minds of the worshipers in a very Anti Christian pattern with name calling and even physical threats.

a reply to: TinfoilTophat

how about BIDEN with the head wound?
usa is the beast with the deep state