'There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See.

a reply to: chr0naut

Whose truth?
Vatican says Archbishop Viganò ‘guilty’ of schism and excommunicated

Rebuffing the accusation, Viganò stated at the time that “I claim, as Successor of the Apostles, to be in full communion with the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church, with the Magisterium of the Roman Pontiffs, and with the uninterrupted doctrinal, moral, and liturgical Tradition which they have faithfully preserved.”

He further added that “I repudiate, reject, and condemn the scandals, errors, and heresies of Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who manifests an absolutely tyrannical management of power, exercised against the purpose that legitimizes authority in the Church: an authority that is vicarious of that of Christ, and as such must obey Him alone.”

Viganò tells bishops following his excommunication: ‘If you are silent, the stones will cry out’

Archbishop Viganò has responded to the Vatican’s declaration of schism and latae sententiae excommunication, saying that the “guilt” he is accused of confirms “the Catholic Faith I integrally profess” while urging his brother bishops to speak out.

In a social media statement on July 5, the former U.S. Nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò gave a brief comment regarding the declaration of his latae sentenciae excommunication made by the Vatican earlier in the day.

“What is imputed to me as guilt for my conviction is now on record, confirming the Catholic Faith I integrally profess,” wrote Viganò.

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: chr0naut
Old news.

The only old news is trying to champion the United Nations
as an organization that is pro human rights, which you
attempted to do twice in this thread.

It is nothing but a hollow body of self aggrandizing "people".

But carry on with your water bucket....

These same people who accuse rights and health organizations, are the ones who believe that their country that imprisons more of its citizens than nearly any other country in the world (both in absolute numbers and in per capita terms), is a pinnacle of freedom in the world. It is measurably among the least free countries, if not the least!

Incarceration Rates by Country 2024

a reply to: charlest2

Some you need to add a new category of conspirators on the hodgepodge. It intersects with about everything else, being some religions, some governments, and some businesses. All are key to the movement toward a One World State.

The manipulators of this combined force are the beings in the UFOs. They work their wonders by convincing the various pivotal leaders in the modern world that humanity is destined to destroy itself unless it learns a higher understanding of existence.

Exactly what the outcome is for the average human's life is unclear at this point. But I sense that words such as Freedom and Democracy as they understood and practice today is going to be drastically altered as we are shepherded toward compliance with a cosmic philosophy that few current minds would want.

originally posted by: chr0naut

Yes, but you are ascribing these things to the people who are actively opposing them..

Did you actually read the quotes? Some were opposed to globalist philosophy, yes. Others spoke with glowing praise and pride. Someone who had read and understood the quotes would understand this...

It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it.
H. G. Wells

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Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen.
Zbigniew Brzezinski

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This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.
David Rockefeller

www.azquotes.com...

Regardless, my quotes were in response to your attempts to downplay this reality as some sort of misconception by those sounding the alarm bells. This globalist movement is very real, and is anything but warm and fuzzy. It also has a firm basis in historical fact, and is well documented.

a reply to: chr0naut

Reality is complex and difficult to understand.

Real people are hard to control.

Real problems are hard to solve.

Real politics is about policy not issues, and policy is complicated stuff.

The Wall of Nonsense, on the other hand, offers easy explanations and solutions: everything that's wrong in the world is the fault of the Bad Guys, and the solution to all my problems is to get rid of the Bad Guys.

Embracing the Nonsense makes me feel part of a glorious virtuous worldwide movement, even though I'm really just a sad friendless person who can't even function online without constantly coming into conflict with others and the only movement I could ever be part of is the one I use the toilet for.

So tell me now, Wise Man, why shouldn't I prefer the Wall of Nonsense?

All my friends on ATS worship the Wall. Just look how happy and at peace they are!

Go away, nasty real man.

originally posted by: Kallipygywiggy
a reply to: chr0naut

Ah, nihilist ennui.

a reply to: charlest2

Whatever has happened has been done , what we are seeing are the consequences of it unfolding. We are calling it Clown world etc because it is a change from the normal , Some people will have a normalcy bias and pretend it is business as normal. They will also think that voting will change things. As Ritchie says in this vid when Obama repeeled the act forbidding propaganda whatever it was, took off. The clue was a supposedly democratically elected government not looking into the excess deaths. Election processes being far from normal, and now Britain electing a Fabian council member who is knighted into the highest office. There is a reason for all this to happen at this time. Time will tell. rumble.com...

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Archbishop Vigano is an example of a Saint who walks the earth IMHO.

The fact that Bergoglio actually excommunicated him tells me Vigano speaks the truth.

But he was excommunicated because he was not speaking the truth and was trying to divide the church with false allegations?

Does that now make him a Protest ant asking for a friend

It's evil, satanic anti Christ agenda is not going to go over well.

I am a supporter of the death penalty for pedophilia.

No tolerance, zero, zip none.

Any one who supports it, is deranged and a part of the problem. Probably don't have own children, hopefully...

God will punish them in a special way.


It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Why would you care if you don't believe in that?

Who is making you suck from their trough?

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: charlest2

Why is it that everyone who actually does anything for humanity in general is portrayed as 'evil', and yet kooks who do nothing but self-promote are supposedly good?

New conspiracy theories build on old conspiracy theories, and the process will continue unabated while ever people accept open-ended questions and baseless opinions as if they are facts.

This website just cobbles together other older conspiracy theories, some of which are actually contradictory to each other, and contradictory to widely available evidence, but are presented in such volume that they all seem to be pushing the same point. Perfect for those who want to believe, but pointless for people who want to determine what is really happening in the world and lend their voice towards change and improvement.

There are none so blinded as those whose gaze is always directed at the wall of nonsense.

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Archbishop Vigano is an example of a Saint who walks the earth IMHO.

The fact that Bergoglio actually excommunicated him tells me Vigano speaks the truth.

2nd,


mic drop

clang bang sprkhkkkhrnnnnnnnnnk

You do that all the time sir.


In fact you have no standing in truth to make any statement not directly related to family and friends you actually have.

If you did have a history of being right, I might agree with you on those.


IF

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: badcabbie
a reply to: chr0naut

Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
Woodrow Wilson

www.azquotes.com...

“The high office of the president has been used to foment a plot to destroy America’s freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizens of this plight.”
– John F. Kennedy November 12, 1963.

Date of Kennedy Assassination : NOV. 22, 1963

infiniteunknown.net...

Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government
Henry A. Kissinger

www.azquotes.com...

We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.
David Rockefeller

www.azquotes.com...

The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts.
Henry Ford

www.azquotes.com...

Link to JFK's "The President and The Press" speech, from which the above quote was taken:
www.youtube.com...

Plenty more where that came from. As I said in my previous post in this thread, this theory is a well established one with a firm basis in historical fact.

Yes, but you are ascribing these things to the people who are actively opposing them..

I am of the opinion those UFO' are our ancestors. The same ones who made mistakes that took Earth out maybe more than once because of lust for absolute power. The Nephilim of the Bible? Maybe the fallen ones themselves.

originally posted by: CosmicFocus
a reply to: charlest2

Some you need to add a new category of conspirators on the hodgepodge. It intersects with about everything else, being some religions, some governments, and some businesses. All are key to the movement toward a One World State.

The manipulators of this combined force are the beings in the UFOs. They work their wonders by convincing the various pivotal leaders in the modern world that humanity is destined to destroy itself unless it learns a higher understanding of existence.

Exactly what the outcome is for the average human's life is unclear at this point. But I sense that words such as Freedom and Democracy as they understood and practice today is going to be drastically altered as we are shepherded toward compliance with a cosmic philosophy that few current minds would want.

Real man. phhhftpphh on that one.

More likely AI.


That one violates logic in so many ways that it has to be a programmed individual or machine that uses an algorithm based on confusing human minds.


I have no faith in one word typed from that one.
Not one bit.

I have no faith in ATS, but I do get data I can take to my peers. THANKS YOU MUCH those doing this. Very much!

originally posted by: Kallipygywiggy
a reply to: chr0naut

Reality is complex and difficult to understand.

Real people are hard to control.

Real problems are hard to solve.

Real politics is about policy not issues, and policy is complicated stuff.

The Wall of Nonsense, on the other hand, offers easy explanations and solutions: everything that's wrong in the world is the fault of the Bad Guys, and the solution to all my problems is to get rid of the Bad Guys.

Embracing the Nonsense makes me feel part of a glorious virtuous worldwide movement, even though I'm really just a sad friendless person who can't even function online without constantly coming into conflict with others and the only movement I could ever be part of is the one I use the toilet for.

So tell me now, Wise Man, why shouldn't I prefer the Wall of Nonsense?

All my friends on ATS worship the Wall. Just look how happy and at peace they are!

Go away, nasty real man.

True Logic is important.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Archbishop Vigano is an example of a Saint who walks the earth IMHO.

The fact that Bergoglio actually excommunicated him tells me Vigano speaks the truth.

But he was excommunicated because he was not speaking the truth and was trying to divide the church with false allegations?

This is the Catholic Church we are talking about ....

and False according to whom ?

originally posted by: badcabbie
a reply to: chr0naut

Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
Woodrow Wilson

www.azquotes.com...

“The high office of the president has been used to foment a plot to destroy America’s freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizens of this plight.”
– John F. Kennedy November 12, 1963.

Date of Kennedy Assassination : NOV. 22, 1963

infiniteunknown.net...

Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government
Henry A. Kissinger

www.azquotes.com...

We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.
David Rockefeller

www.azquotes.com...

The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts.
Henry Ford

www.azquotes.com...

Link to JFK's "The President and The Press" speech, from which the above quote was taken:
www.youtube.com...

Plenty more where that came from. As I said in my previous post in this thread, this theory is a well established one with a firm basis in historical fact.

I need to correct myself again on this post.

Link to JFK's "The President and The Press" speech, from which the above quote was taken:
www.youtube.com...

Kennedy's "The President And The Press" speech does not contain this quote, and was made on April 27th, 1961, not November 12th, 1963. The website from which I quoted this quote appears to have made some errors. This is an actual Kennedy quote, as far as I can tell, it just wasn't a part of Kennedy's "The President And The Press" speech.

a reply to: chr0naut

Ah, nihilist ennui.

Not nihilist at all. The vast majority of people aren't anti-social conspiracy theorists. ATS is representative of nothing except itself.

a reply to: Justoneman

Real man. phhhftpphh on that one. More likely AI.

Shall I take an Autocaptcha test for you?

That one violates logic in so many ways that it has to be a programmed individual or machine that uses an algorithm based on confusing human minds.

That's right. Back you go beyond your Wall of Nonsense. Don't stay out in reality any longer, the cognitive dissonance might kill you.

a reply to: chr0naut

" Why is it that everyone who actually does anything for humanity in general is portrayed as 'evil'"



That All Depends on " What " they do . Self Interest is Usually the Most Common Motivation .


For Instance...

a reply to: charlest2

I was at work on lunch when two otherwise nice guys discussed the weather and global warming. Low information normy norms. I wanted to say global warming predictions weren't wrong, they were lies. But they were just repeating what they heard so I wasn't going to convince them otherwise.